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Wow. This was pointed out to me ingame by another long term player, although I am shocked to find even longer veterans in here grumbling about this.

All I can say is that Kendai, you are ruining this for everyone and all you are doing is making a lot of enemies and merely stalling the community. When I left CoH 3.5 years ago I ran the Defiant channel with some of the others (Miss etc) and there were never any probs, but now that channel is locked down(?). The global chatters will respond and adapt fast and you will be left with a handful of people and the server will be ever less community driven.

A dark day for Deviants indeed.

My suggestions: apologise, give the the old Ops their status back and you'll be surprised at how not bothered people can be.

In the meantime, I suggest someone sets up the next channel, or that we use Raz's. IT really makes little difference if everyone just gets on with it.

Finally, I am just going to start using /ac again, it's basically my channel and it seems that not a sole uses the arena so no one will mind, right?

Bums.

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Ah the DMs in Portal, good to practice on, not particularly difficult if I remember .

I ran a mission with a +1/2 Master Illusionist the other day and OMG I forgot how tough they are, I died SO many times! No fun.

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Haven't read into this build massively as a lot of things have changed and I think my opinion is less valid than it once was. That said, my thoughts are there:

*Voltaic sentinel has the worst acc ever, I've found it consistently loves to miss, so single slotting it for DMG is pretty much a waste of a power. That said, I do have it, and slot it much more highly and it makes a noticeable difference in end drain, PvP and soloing.

*Zapp, the only use I can think of for this is in PvP as high level PvE pretty much revolves around everything that is not sniping. I wouldn't take it over Short Circuit.

*If you're taking Lightning Clap then I would slot it for EndRed, Stun, RecRed and Acc. It's pretty much a panic button, and even when one does use it, as an elec I wouldn't want them too far away for either draining or leeching powers.

*Lack of Short Circuit: for me this is just a massive no-no. You've embraced the blaptrol elements but missed the core one IMHO. If you do plan to go in and blap occasionally as you say, this will crank your DPS big time, BL and SC are great AoEs and the drain is a game changer in many situations. It also adds to PvPability and can make AVs somewhat of a doddle in many circumstances.

*Can't really remember what Surge of Power is, I have a horrible feeling that it replaced some kind of EMP? ...

Hope that helps, I'm about to respec when I've done my research after missing 3.5 years and I will defo keep 3 holds, 3 ranged, 2 drains as the core .

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They're all coming back, look!

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P.S. Obvs don't need to tell you the best S/VG on Deviant

I'd be in too. I've missed the last 3.5 years or so, but assuming the mechanics aren't so massively different, it's about a 90 minute affair.

I can offer single target holds roughly on par with a controller once buffed (even though I'm a blaster), although in times gone by the Swords generally provided two patrol teams to keep the GMs out of the jelly during mito phases. I'd be happy with this, although with the new drops I'd have questions about rewards for the patrollers. I'm sure that the coalition could muster a few teams for whatever is needed...

If there is a revised Hami plan, could you please post it here or in the OP so that those of us who have been away/never done it can get up to speed?

Time wise, I think that Sunday evenings are generally good, although I can do any time these days so long as I'm not gigging. Perhaps do a huge public calendar over any given weekend on whenisgood.com to find out when is best, and then shift it to suit; I'm sure people will be flexible within a few hours/half a day.

6 slot those spoons, boys 'n girls, we're having jelly!

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I tried a build once with EndMod in every power and I can honestly say it sucked when it came to survivability. I would stick with the standard DPS builds and slot EndMod into SC and PS, perhaps in EF too if you have the slots, but I'm not sure if that has been fixed in the 4 years I've been away.

My attitude is this: drain, do massive AoE and ST damage, control and be relentless due to PS.

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Hi there, I've just come back after a cheeky 4.5 year hiatus and played elec/elec/elec blaster for 90% of my time.

While I agree with many of your quarms regarding the relatively short range of the PBAoE and the seeming lack of secondary effects, I would say that the drain and -EndRec effect are devastating both in group and solo PvE. With Haste and good slotting it's posssible to continuoulsy output massive damage, even without defender buffs. Not many blasters are as self sustaining, have as much continuous DPS and crowd control.

I've played in all sorts of groups, but I've never seen a blaster have as much effect on the group dynamic as an electric blaptroller IMO.

All that said, any and all buffs as per your suggestions would be welcome; VS seems pretty weak and the animation of Tesla Cage is certainly long compared with ice's holds.

Just my 2 cents .

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I just reactivated my account after playing a bit of EVE with my mate and missing this. Work is busy but I figure why not. I'm sorry I left without much of a goodbye...

Reroll and will try and get Bane up to 50 from 47 (?) when I'm not duoing with my RL mate.

I have no idea if the OotCS still exists, hopefully Plight is still in it even if no one else is... I think I have a lot to learn, again. I am not planning on playing 15 hours per day, more like a few hours a few times per week.

Love to you all, hopefully see you soon; looking forward to meeting some new people too .

P.S. Read on the updater that Coin is DJing so there is hope yet... hopefully.

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You think I have any skills after not using the toon for 6 months? He hasn't been brushed off since pre i9, let alone IOs, I have to read up and respec most likely : /
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Being the 2nd ice/nrg on the Defiant server.. naaaaah

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Offcourse, i beat Plight in a PvP match with him

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Ice/nrg and son/nrg destroy elec/elec if the players are evenly skilled IMO, if they are not then as per most other AT or build combos then it's down to exploiting weakness and capitalising on strengths, i.e. using your skill

w00t and whatnot, I'll be back to kill y'all soon!

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Hi guys, firstly I'd like to say thanks again to Cambo and the many reasonable voices you all have, I am proud that we deal with things like adults 'round here.

I'll be terribly sorry to see you go Sin, I really don't want it to happen, I myself plan to get moved, new machine, new connection and back ingame in the next month or two, right now betweejm social and worklife I just have no focus, and my craptop doesn't help with the fact it barely works. I won't be losing touch with you, 'cos I know you are too good a mate .

Regarding binds and abuse or psueudo-abuse, I can only say that sometimes things are said in bad taste, some of us have hides of steel and cannot be touched by mere words, some of us get uptight and upset at anything related to bad memories, I think apologies and understanding are always welcome in these situations, I cannot condone what was said and done, and at the same time it's not in my own nature or the ethors of the SG to kick of about it. I and we are not doormats to be walked all over, but I would like to think we are the most understanding, chancer giving group of people we can be, and that should get us through. I think everything is in perspective now (I hope) and that people are sorry and some of the damage, i.e. the site, has been fixed. Let's try to move on without losing any friends.

Now I must go remove some skin, oh the fun of the winter.

Jimbo x

P.S. You know who the big names are in the SG, but I am more than happy for Cambo to continue stewarding the SG, it's much appreciated.

RE the point on not slotting more than 1 KB, i would say a few things. firstly that if the base distance is small, dont bother with KB, KB only enhances distance not chance to KB or mag of KB. Although fair points about slotting 2/2/2 acc/dmg/kb i would recommend something like 2/2/1/1 acc/dmg/kb/range or variations of dependiong on what you can hit at what range. remember that KB SOs are 60% whilst range are only 20%, on the same topic remember that as you get higher up the levels mobs outrange you, totally and utterly. a level 50 mob will easily hit you at about 130%of base blaster range for average attacks (IMO i think you're gonna get hit at about 110 feet +). I wouldnt want to KB sometihng, get its aggro then have it hit me before I could KB it again out of range (why FF is so good at low levels, nothing gets near you).

forei forget, KB does stack, it has a duration, although said durations are nigh on impossible to monitor, I know that I have KBed things I didnt think I could when I have had geas and SB running, the KB buff doesnt seem to register on players in PvP so u cant mieasure it that way. best way is to wack it all on a mob at once and pray. KBs also have mags, but i thikn that got covered.

the hover/KD trick is nice, explosive blast is bonkers though, far too rare to see it.

phear me etc, i am not dead, have just been RLing it up and away from this board a fair bit, the power referred to earlier was Thunder Strike, a PBAoE version of Total Focus for the uninitiated, it does about the same damage but is typed differently, has a % chance to KB anytihng near you, is guaranteed to KB any non special mobs back up to bosses and standard EBs, always does low-med splash dmg and generally makes a mess of things (50% or more chance to mag 2 stun too ).

P.S. i pwn jo0

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Stuns and self heals = good.

RE: Luminos. Not really sure what happened throughout htis discussion but a blaster vs mez is a sitting duck, i am very much of the insps balance the game camp of thought. I can do nothing against 90% of well built toons if they have mez and I have no BFs, the other insps have their uses too. To discount insps as skill negating or overpowering is silly, a character with 10 lucks for 2 minutes is a total non-risk for 8 minutes in a duel. The zones may vary but I dont recommend zoning without teams, duels and timed matches are what I understand

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Arena channel is the channel with the best server-wide coverage (apart for help, which REALLY should be kept for it's only purpose), and personally, I will continue using it as a server wide announcement channel if I need to, as well as reply to people who ask questions there, as long as I get banned from the game for doing so, or we get a proper server-wide channel.

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Before anyone turns around and tells me I have not had to take any grief over this i suggest you note that people in the OotCS have variously been kicked from the SG over it and had chat bans to arena from the mods, so dont think i am trying to be selfish or untouchable before anyone starts waving fingers at me. ONe rule for all is pretty fair

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Another thing I forgot to mention. On the main concern of actually stopping GM griefing, assuming we have several random or public GM teams then it is hard for the eyes in the sky and for the people on the floor on TS coordinating the raid to tell which GMs are unaggroed and just walking - risky but not aggroed - and which are being faught efficiently, if the GM wins it will rampage in some cases, also and most importantly, true griefers could easily use the activity to mask their attempts to ruin the raid for everyone and easily put a stop to the raid. I haven't seen one raid wipe where people have started again, personally I would, but most people don't have the time or inclination.

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The idea of a public one was rejected for various reasons.

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I think that the Arena channel should have its name changed to Server, and that the handful of people who want to use arena create a global channel for it.

Like it or not Arena has become a server general channel and making its name reflect that asap will save a lot of arguments.

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As you said ingame, it is about what the US servers (and although you didnt say it, the Korean ones) and what they want, they do not want your suggestion and will not make a regional change like this, I suggest you make a thread proposing a server channel.

I cant remember if i posted this or not, and I cant go back to quote myself cos the old forum was deleted, although I did say back in the day that arena would eb a sensible alternative to global until global was implemented, I posted and PMed both mods and devs asking for global several times and not a lot was done due to some tech issue i dont understand, at the end of it when global was introduced no one bothered to move the chat there and now they are suffering the consequences, but even worse IMO is that the PvP community has suffered the consequences already.

before arena,and before global there were only tells for mass organisation, we should be thankful for what we have and use it, not moan because "i already have 5 global channels", if people chatted too much on /help there would be uproar, i dont see how this is different.

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Arena channel is the channel with the best server-wide coverage (apart for help, which REALLY should be kept for it's only purpose), and personally, I will continue using it as a server wide announcement channel if I need to, as well as reply to people who ask questions there, as long as I get banned from the game for doing so, or we get a proper server-wide channel.

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Apart from help you say? So why not use it? Oh because for /help it is more important that there is no spam than for /arena? Right you are mate, glad you are imposing your own opinions about things on this issue. I personally told people to keep off /help when it went up 'cos I would rather see arena spammed, this is not the csae any more 'cos i'm so sick of it! So I have decided to do something? And why are no rednames disagreeing or many players disagreeing? Becuase the channel is for PvP, that's Pee Vee Pee to you and I.

You will continue to use it for server weide announcements if you need to? I didn't know you had any need to? What do you mean by need? I really think the only time you should need anything is for help with certain missions? Need is a funny word, and you're friends list should serve you well, /arena is neither my own personal chat room or yours.

Assuming the typoes I have assumed in your last sentence, then GL with that, 'cos if anyone starts petitioning you, you will, I imagine, get told the score by the mods and then I assume be quiet about it, it is a great shame that people want to break rules until they are told not to IMO.

finally, this attitude of "I'm carrying on until I'm told not to" is not good enough, you people are supposed to be a community and should make proactive steps to improve the social aspect of the game, not just make fsat stands 'cos something doesn't suit you when you are inately 'wrong' already. Carrying on replying to /arena only perpetuates a problem, at least try and help, as I said above, and redirect this sort of thing to the global system which is there for exactly this reason!

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It's an unofficial server wide channel, and because of that, a lot of people use it for general server wide chat - I've seen more requests for help on it than on the Help Channel, for example.

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Maybe something needs to be done about this by the general server community then? Maybe Cryptic should be thinking about adding the help tab to the main bottom chat tab as default, I even told warwitch this in person!

Funny thing about the unofficial server wide channel, is the the official server wide channel is called Defiant (EN), is easily viewable by a defgualt global channel search and, wait for it, there's no one in it! there is an issue here, and I think a lot of it could be sorted out by people using their noggins a bit more.








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The global chat system has some default channels for servers and teams etc, although one of the biggest general rooms there is called "Global", AFAIK none of the Ops play anymore so if you don't like what goes on there use /gignore or leave, however this is the best and most appropriate channel for general chit chat and Q&A type stuff. If you have membership to 5 global channels already, tough really, leave 1 temporarily and join global with /chanjoin global.

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This is unlikely to work. Simple as that.

"Tough really, leave 1 temporarily" doesn't work for things that people largely use passively - they just keep an eye on it for interesting things happening. You can't join that sort of channel temporarily, because you don't know when you want to be on it or not because you don't know whether anything you'd be interested in is being said or not at any particular time without actually being on it.

The problem then is that some people are never going to join those global channels, because of the five channel limit. So you then have other people who would perhaps use those channels being discouraged from using them instead because there aren't many people on them. But they can all use arena, which brings us to the current situation.

I realise you know this, and your attitude is presumably (and not unreasonably) "tough, it's not my problem". Unfortunately "tough" isn't the most persuasive argument in the world. The result of your campaign is consequently likely to be just arguments, petitioning, etc. I don't think, somehow, that NCSoft want to start handing out bans for someone LFT on the arena channel. So all that's likely to really be achieved is the arguing.

Like I said to start off with, I totally agree Arena should be for Arena. But while Arena is, in practical terms, the best channel for other purposes, it's going to be very hard, if not impossible, for that to happen.

We need either a server channel (like arena or help) called something like 'General', and/or the five channel limit gone. Without one or both of these, I can't see your campaign going very far I'm afraid. That's not to say you shouldn't do it, because 'not very far' is still 'somewhere'. But I really think there needs to be an equally or more practical alternative for it to be effective.

But maybe I'm just being overly pessimistic. Good luck with it anyway.

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Also for the record, my "tough" policy as you called it, is not as totally idiotic as some may think, the one toon i made a macro on for this actually has the text explaioning how to join "global" channel and use the help. I would be stupid and ignorant and negligent to not give people the information they need to help me and other PvPers in whatever quest we are on.

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An interesting idea, and one not without merit.

However, I would be cautious of being too overzealous on the "you're not talking about PvP, please leave" issue.

With any group of people there is going to be a certain percentage of inane banter. People chat to each other - it is, afterall, the nature of people - and it's that interaction that fosters communities, lets people get to know each other and can gel a disparate collection of individuals into a group of friends. (And it's fun )

Be mindful that a chat channel is not a forum. While it's relatively easy to keep on topic in a forum thread, people's brains don't tend to work that way in real-time - trying to coerce people into staying on topic with threats of lodging petitions may only have the effect of killing off the community you're trying to protect.

Now, I'm only a casual lurker on /arena, so may well be talking out of my hat - but I'm an old fart who's been knocking about in online games for donkey's years and while I applaud the idea of keeping the signal to noise ratio on /arena to an acceptable level, I know it's the people and the community who you chat with that makes the game worth playing.

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If you agree with this post, which, I do not. As robbie_redhat said, we have a problem now because of the 5 channels limit on globals. And, what I think its the biggest issue here, arena is the only widely known server-wide channel. Only Help has this too, and it is not default visible for most of the toons.

That was the main reason Arena was taken for the general chat on each server. If your reason for this plight, is to use Globals, why don't the PvP crowd use the Global Arena Chat which everyone is a member by default (just type /send Arena msg or bind "/bind <key> beginchat /send Arena "). It is diferent from the /ac.

The only solution for this, would be a new server-wide channel "General", "Server", anything, that is on the tab by default and anyone can check, then maybe, we can shift away from it. But that will take time, and bully tatics on the channel and on people because of that is far from the best solution.

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I totally agree that there should be a server channel for each server Dark, I also think that it is not unreasonable to ask that the PvP channel is to the PvPers. The option is there for players to make serverwise channels and I am not being totally ignorant when I ask people not to chat in arena, I am directing them to /help for help and "global" for general chat. I think it's easy to see that arena channel is showing preference to the PvPers from the devs over the general chatters, although the PvP community is easier to define than the people who just want to talk IMO. There are varying degrees of how much people want to chit chat, whereas for PvP it's pretty much black and white as to whether you are lookinfg for PvP of type X, Y or Z.

I also agree with the earlier post thatt a certain amount of chat is human, and going off topic is the nature of a MMOG channel, although when there are people in a channel to be nothing but off topic that is the ingame equivalent of trolling. I'd just like to see a day where you could put arena in your main bottom chat tab and not have the tab rammed with rubbish with absolutely no chance of getting any arena related content sent to it. This is why many of the PvPers stopped reading Arena full time, or at all in some cases.

Maybe the Bridger man will ask the devs for a server channel? I think someone should be making moves to get this implemented, I think coding time wise this is a very small job (look at help channel, it's not that complex), or maybe starting a thread to get more than 5 global channels for the limit on global chat. The solution is not just "I'm using Arena 'cos I can", that will just lead to wasted time for the GMs who tbh prolly have better things to do.

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EDIT: "/send arena" does nothing and "arena" is not a default global channel sorry

This isnt a vigilante post lol, im all for the rally, but as i said in the main thread, if people cant listen dont get out of line or out of hand, just let the GMs know, the big B laid the rules down months ago, im ust feeling inspired at the mo, people like warengine would read that channel if it wasnt for some of the 'unnecesary' chat etc.

Im always in global, so for all the casual "hi peeps" i will still see em, be nice to hav a proper (semi) unmoderated global channel

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Well done mate, I think this officially makes you better at PvE than me, as for PvE, we'll see

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HEhe TY Plight, i am in ARENA quit a bit now, hopefully 1 day i can adleads Draw against you

Btw Plight, now Skinz is 50 all i need is to respec, when i have, want to try me 1 on 1 ARENA Style? *note to self* Carry 20 Cab's LOL !
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