Spore Burst or Seeds of Confusion?


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Hello everyone, it’s time for me to pick your brains again.

Following the advice offered last time, I’ve rolled a Plant/Fire Dom and I’m having great fun with her. However, it is now time to pick my AoE soft control and I can’t find much of a comparison on the boards. So which should I pick, Spore Burst or Seeds of Confusion?

I’m aware of the downsides:

Confusion – less xp
Sleep – next to useless in a (bad) team

As I tend to solo a lot (not by choice) I’m tempted to take Spore Burst but I’ve heard very good things about Seeds although the recharge seems long. Could any of you friendly Doms help inform my choice? Thanks.


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No. No NO. Before someone else says it confusion does not = less xp over time, it equals more xp over time. It is very heavily weighted in favor of the players.

And Seeds of Confusion is probably the most powerful power available to dominators at that level.

On the other hand you could have a pants sleep power. Your choice.


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It has to be seeds of confusion - it is a defining power and by most consider the best dom power. It offers the best control and the xp reduxction is minimal.


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Easy, get confusion - it really make your life much easier. Ive got both but will probably respec out of spore burst to get another power as confusion seems to handle the job just fine. However for yourself having both may be more useful due to soloing (firing off sleep then confusion) and being able to have major crowd control. I tend to team mostly and there are lots of AoE's going off so sleep becomes pretty redundant.


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Well, I'm not a friendly Dom by any stretch of the imagination .... but seeds ASAP.

You'll also want Fire Breath and Fiery embrace. Hit them with seeds, wait 2 seconds or so for them to cluster, fiery embrace then breath.

Seeds is good with TOs, perfectly fine with DOs. I can't wait to see what it is like with SOs ... when I have time.


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AoE confusion=über

That is all


 

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Wow. Well, that definitely seems to seal it, confusion it is.

I've already got Fire Breath and Firey Embrace is a must have as soon as it's available.

Thanks for the help, again!


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A word on Confusion...

The damage dealt by a mob will "steal" only 25% of the total damage he did.

For example, if a mob had 100 HP and yielded 100 experience, a Juicer Freak hits the mob for 40, and you deal the rest damage, 60.
Now, because the mob "stealing" is only 25%, the damage which counts for the exp dealt by the mob is 10, which makes you the person who dealt the 90 other damage, resulting in 90 exp and a lot less time required.

And if someone says to not use Seeds because of Exploss, either tell him/her this or simply quit the team if he seems to be ignorant, or if you're the leader, kick away!


 

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Without a doubt...

SEEDS!


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oo seeds go for the seeds,
nothing more funny than a boss spawn being beaten up by is own minions

or taking control of a longbow wardens pet singularity


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One of the problems I've found with Spore Burst is its really short duration. However will deffo be getting Seeds asap.


 

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Seeds is the set defining power imo. Sure creepers looks cool and does funky things but seeds is AOE CONFUSE. Giant cone, long duration, moderate recharge, available for most of your career. It's mind control's ultimate power, given to you at low level with very few drawbacks. 6 slot it asap. Why sleep or hold something when you can hold it, increase your team's dps and get buffed by it at the same time?

Plant Control IS Seeds of Confusion.

Spore Burst is a ranged AoE sleep. Useful for sure because it is your "OMG, where did they come from? We're going to wipe" power.


 

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Seeds! Quickly! Before it gets nerfed!


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Go for Seeds of Confusion first, deffo. But bear in mind that it's not AoE, it's a cone attack. Still great, but requires slightly more careful aiming to get right.

Spore Burst is not as useless as some would have you believe. It's handy for getting out of a tight spot, and also good if you've got stalkers with you. They can get criticals off slept enemies, but not confused enemies.


 

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Seeds seeds seeds enough said.....

It really is a defining power


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But bear in mind that it's not AoE, it's a cone attack.

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It's a giant cone, like Gale. You could be blindfolded, spun around and probably still manage to hit the whole spawn with seeds.


 

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Seeds ftw! The best dominator power out there. Slot it for range and confuse duration as soon as you can, fire it off at a mob, then stand around chuckling evilly as they kill each other. Pick off the ones still standing, then on to the next mob and do the same. It never gets old!


 

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But bear in mind that it's not AoE, it's a cone attack.

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It's a giant cone, like Gale. You could be blindfolded, spun around and probably still manage to hit the whole spawn with seeds.

[/ QUOTE ]It's a very wide cone but the range is not that great, depending on the mob sometimes you will have problems hitting the ones at the back of a spawn, stealth or ss is great here as you can get closer
I'd also advise chaining it up with the AoE immoblise, cone confuse&gt;AoE Immoblise&gt;AoE/cone attacks.

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Seeds! Quickly! Before it gets nerfed!

[/ QUOTE ] Umm I'm pritty sure it has been already, got a base accuricy penality stuck on it in i7. but that doesn't mean more are on the way.

And to the -XP the amount you lose is low, I remember the numbers were posted once (in the CoV beat forum I think) it's not some fixed %, as with so many things the dev like to use curves, basicly the higher the % damage done by a confused mob the lower the xp. it's roughly (going by memory here)
100% damage by confused mob, 0% damage by you = 0%xp
75% damage by confused mob, 25% damage by you = 40%xp
50% damage by confused mob, 50% damage by you = 75%xp
25% damage by confused mob, 75% damage by you = 90%xp
0% damage by confused mob, 100% damage by you = 100%xp


 

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And to the -XP the amount you lose is low, I remember the numbers were posted once (in the CoV beat forum I think) it's not some fixed %, as with so many things the dev like to use curves, basicly the higher the % damage done by a confused mob the lower the xp. it's roughly (going by memory here)
100% damage by confused mob, 0% damage by you = 0%xp
75% damage by confused mob, 25% damage by you = 40%xp
50% damage by confused mob, 50% damage by you = 75%xp
25% damage by confused mob, 75% damage by you = 90%xp
0% damage by confused mob, 100% damage by you = 100%xp

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, it's:

A.....B
0.....0
10....31
20....50
25....57
30....63
40....73
50....80
60....86
70....90
75....92
80....94
90....97
100...100

Where A is your damage, and B is XP gain, if only other source of damage is confused mob.


 

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Thanks MaX, I should of known that you'd come in with the figures. Looks like my memory isn't that faulity as I was pritty close.

How big is your database of CoX info now?