Stalkers in PVP


Brimmy

 

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EM/ELA Brute (with no +perception) fights a Claws/Regen Stalker in the arena level 47-50 - no insps allowed.

I spend the whole fight using Super Speed moving, trying to avoid AS. When he gets one in I pop Aid Self, run in BU+ attack chain. He's a /Regen so he heals then placates then goes back into hide. This goes on for 10 minutes - result 0-0

After the match I get grief telling me that I am coward and won't fight "toe to toe" like a Brute should which I interpret as "you won't stand still and let me AS you". So we fight again same sort of thing but he's not using hide (this is the most annoying part of the fight) whenever he placates me I try and break line of sight. To shouts of “all you do is run”! I beat him 1-0 (not much of an achievement because he wasn't using hide).

What was most disheartening was the fact that I was called a coward and that I couldn’t PVP because, as I see it, I wouldn’t stand around and let a Stalker AS me.

Earlier on I got the same kind of response from a Stalker in Warburg, because I was using Super Speed and trying never to stand still long enough to let him get AS off.

The way I see it if a Stalker wants to Assassin Strike me he’s got to work for it the critical part of Assassin Strike is unresistible it doesn’t matter how much defence or resistance I have it hurts a lot. And Aid Self isn’t reliable enough for me to recover before the inevitable Placate + Critical.

What are people’s opinions on this fight?


 

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The stalker is a whining daft monkey.


 

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It's another case of someone complaining that people don't stay still so they can pound on them? Rule for avoiding stalkers, afais, don't stand still so they can AS you. They still can even if you do move constantly, it just requires tactics. I've managed to AS people running repel, Firey Aura, Quills and such moves, some moving, others not, it needs people to think rather than rely on their build. Yes you can view PvP as rock/paper/scissors, but I could show you how to break paper with a rock.


 

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Dude you HAVE to stand still for people like that! They suck too much to pull an AS off when you're moving!


 

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I feel its only fair to stand still and turn off any toggles you may have on, if you have inadvertanly got any autopowers that may assist your longevity please respec them out


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I feel its only fair to stand still and turn off any toggles you may have on, if you have inadvertanly got any autopowers that may assist your longevity please respec them out

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Yeah, and respec fly in as well. When the fight starts, fly up as high as you can and then drop down for maximum fall damage.

ITS ONLY FAIR OK


 

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I feel its only fair to stand still and turn off any toggles you may have on, if you have inadvertanly got any autopowers that may assist your longevity please respec them out

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Indeed, for the best PvP fun, make a defender/controller/blaster/corruptor/dominator/MM and take all the travel powers, 6 slot brawl, rest, SJ, SS, TP, Fly and every other PP power


 

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Yup its official you must stand still and under no circustances utilise any powers whatsoever, in fact if you have the passive accolades please ensure you have a method of removing the extra health as its unfiar to ask someone to make an effort in PvP

.... Right sarcasm over....

Seriously just absurd, if people want to stand toe to toe with no insps and batter other players I suggest they save time and resolve their conflict with the rock, paper, scisors emotes provided.

Dunno what it is but there is a lot of this stuff about atm and at times it truly is silly. Dont let it get ya down there are still decent PvPers out there.

Cheers,

White


 

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Glad you all agree, I was so frustrated!

I think he actually believes I should played how he wanted, I do suck and I am a coward. Shame people can be so narrow minded.


 

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What's the point in a Brute slugging it out toe to toe anyway, it's not like you'll be building any of the currently non-existent fury on offer.


 

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EM/ELA Brute (with no +perception) fights a Claws/Regen Stalker in the arena level 47-50 - no insps allowed.

I spend the whole fight using Super Speed moving, trying to avoid AS. When he gets one in I pop Aid Self, run in BU+ attack chain. He's a /Regen so he heals then placates then goes back into hide. This goes on for 10 minutes - result 0-0

After the match I get grief telling me that I am coward and won't fight "toe to toe" like a Brute should which I interpret as "you won't stand still and let me AS you". So we fight again same sort of thing but he's not using hide (this is the most annoying part of the fight) whenever he placates me I try and break line of sight. To shouts of “all you do is run”! I beat him 1-0 (not much of an achievement because he wasn't using hide).

What was most disheartening was the fact that I was called a coward and that I couldn’t PVP because, as I see it, I wouldn’t stand around and let a Stalker AS me.

Earlier on I got the same kind of response from a Stalker in Warburg, because I was using Super Speed and trying never to stand still long enough to let him get AS off.

The way I see it if a Stalker wants to Assassin Strike me he’s got to work for it the critical part of Assassin Strike is unresistible it doesn’t matter how much defence or resistance I have it hurts a lot. And Aid Self isn’t reliable enough for me to recover before the inevitable Placate + Critical.

What are people’s opinions on this fight?

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You win by default with a score of 763216532176321 to 0 because the fool decided to use his mouth instead trying to use his powers properly .

First person to use a mouth instead of a power in a fight loses by default .

Sometimes I really think there's a lot of people out there who have emptied out their power trays and filled the things with inane comments and attitudes. No wonder they get beat. A lot.


 

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Yes you can view PvP as rock/paper/scissors, but I could show you how to break paper with a rock.

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Wouldn't that be rip paper with a rock, unless you have frozen it?


 

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*assumes Justin Timberlake position*

/cry me a river

Stand still mate.Hell even start dancing and let this guy AS u. This is not a PvPer.

Mobility is alpha and omega in PvP.


 

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I mean whats the point in us all having combat jumping or superspeed if we are going to use them in a fight?

We should not be allowed to use travel powers or any other powers in a fight.

Thats why from now on, I will only have insps duels with people where we can only use insps to defeat each other and use no powers.

I fought far-seer recently using these rules. He beat me like a ginger step-child. I used 2 cabs and a bf. He used 2 bf and a cab so he won. A school boy error of mine I know, but he is a good inspser after all.

I think duels might develop into fights with no powers and no insps. Where we have to guess the layout of the other persons screen.

'Dam - you are right. My power tray is in the bottom right corner.'
'You sunk my battle ship!'


@Sweet Chilli

 

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You didn't lose, therefore you don't suck.


 

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The worst thing you could ever do is actually listen to him. A True Stalker would have you trussed up as a Turkey before causally AS'ing you.


 

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now thats just silly, silly indeed.

i play a few stalkers myself and i find it to be FUN when the target is running around like a mad man and i'm chasing him like an ever mader man

if you wanna explain it to him just tell him he gotta act in PvP as on a 60% sale on sears, keep moving or get run over!! XD


@EU Brimmy - Union and Exalted servers

 

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aye its fun to see stalkers whine in PvP when the only thing they can do is AS and they finally found an opponent who doesnt let them AS. It's all "ZOMG! you r such c0w4rd!" "fight like a man" etc etc.. well boohoo, maybe they shouldve learned to play their AT well and find out most attack sets got some nice other powers that can cripple an enemy before you land the fatal blow (be it critical or AS).

Always fun to see moronic stalkers whine in sirens when I run hurricane on my troller and they cant AS me (well unless its a proper stalker, but then again, its much more of a fight when you meet one of these ). They start complaining "turn off hurricane cheater!".. sure not taking into account I got no +perc and cant see them while theyre running hide. Or of course the fact they could use other attacks to get me *cough*impale*cough*.

Anyway, conclusively, anything goes in an arena duel, if he starts complaining bout it, well, thats his problem


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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You didn't lose, therefore you don't suck.

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Quote of the day


 

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Yes you can view PvP as rock/paper/scissors, but I could show you how to break paper with a rock.

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Wouldn't that be rip paper with a rock, unless you have frozen it?

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Indeed, or even better, set the rock on fire and throw it at the paper