I have no faith in the devs ability to impliment anything right following the AV buff which they didnt even test before it went live and its subsequent rollback
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if u aint a yank that the devs aint listen, it is the way of life im afraid 
whats this u say about fire and -fly tho?
in the latest patch they put live and then took down on the US training server some fire attacks now have -fly. Obviously this is in prelude to fear being removed from the game.
what tha...... -fly in fire and removing fear?? seriously??
if this is the case then i think someones gone mad.
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Great.. even more jumping characters in PvP way to promote diversity.
Yep, add this to the stupid debt rules the imposed, the stupid hospitals that don't heal and the teleport to base when dead that reses you fully untoggled on half health and zero stamina in the same place you died in the PvP zone and I'm inclined to agree with the comments postsed in this thread.
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Why does -fly in fire = removing fear?
Fire attacks for which AT btw?
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in the latest patch they put live and then took down on the US training server some fire attacks now have -fly. Obviously this is in prelude to fear being removed from the game.
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iirc from the US test server boards before it was taken down and I am fairly sure I do the powers in question were Ring of Fire and Fire Cages controls, both had a -fly component added.
I am not sure I see the connection to the removal of fear from the game, though I may be missing something.
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I can see them replacing it with hold. A few times in game people I have teamed with have said fear will be dropped from fire in time. My opinion is that hold will replace it throughout the game.
-fly dosent make sense to me most controler types are very very similar only illusion is very different. Diversity is going out the window.
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I can see them replacing it with hold. A few times in game people I have teamed with have said fear will be dropped from fire in time. My opinion is that hold will replace it throughout the game.
-fly dosent make sense to me most controler types are very very similar only illusion is very different. Diversity is going out the window.
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I dont follow this. 
Are you saying there is a fear component or power in fire control which will be changed? Or are you saying that all fear powers will be changed? I wasnt aware of any fear effect in fire control so I've been reading your posts as "all fear powers will be removed".
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I can see them replacing it with hold. A few times in game people I have teamed with have said fear will be dropped from fire in time. My opinion is that hold will replace it throughout the game.
-fly dosent make sense to me most controler types are very very similar only illusion is very different. Diversity is going out the window.
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Erm, Fire Control doesn't have any fear powers though. Do you mean the Stun of Flashfire?
Them adding -fly to Cages does seem a little odd too, fire does extra damage over the other immobs so I don't why they're buffing this. Great news for my Fire/Rad though. Flyers were his weakness (damned Cabal).
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I can see them replacing it with hold. A few times in game people I have teamed with have said fear will be dropped from fire in time. My opinion is that hold will replace it throughout the game.
-fly dosent make sense to me most controler types are very very similar only illusion is very different. Diversity is going out the window.
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So the sum total of all the evidence is "someone said it on the internet?"
Clearly a DOOMCON 1 situation if ever I saw one.
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I can see them replacing it with hold. A few times in game people I have teamed with have said fear will be dropped from fire in time. My opinion is that hold will replace it throughout the game.
-fly dosent make sense to me most controler types are very very similar only illusion is very different. Diversity is going out the window.
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So the sum total of all the evidence is "someone said it on the internet?"
Clearly a DOOMCON 1 situation if ever I saw one.
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So the sum total of all the evidence is "someone said it on the internet?"
Clearly a DOOMCON 1 situation if ever I saw one.
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Unless my memory is a total mess atm (which in not unknown but not likely) The -fly changes to Cages and Ring were indeed in the patch refered to on the US training room
However I don't remember anything being said about Fear at all and I would think it highly unlikely that Fear would ever be removed from the game.
So yeah clearly its panic button time
Also afiak there is no fear in fire control. But I am not a fire troll expert.
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I can see them replacing it with hold. A few times in game people I have teamed with have said fear will be dropped from fire in time. My opinion is that hold will replace it throughout the game.
-fly dosent make sense to me most controler types are very very similar only illusion is very different. Diversity is going out the window.
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Fire Control has Fear now? :\
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So yeah clearly its panic button time
Also afiak there is no fear in fire control. But I am not a fire troll expert.
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Course it is, Fear is being discussed 
And im not an expert either, my play extent is a level 40 in the Test RV event and my level 4 troller remade from a 22, and I can say, there isnt a fear aspect in it, otherwise regens would hate them alot more
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I can see them replacing it with hold. A few times in game people I have teamed with have said fear will be dropped from fire in time. My opinion is that hold will replace it throughout the game.
-fly dosent make sense to me most controler types are very very similar only illusion is very different. Diversity is going out the window.
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So the sum total of all the evidence is "someone said it on the internet?"
Clearly a DOOMCON 1 situation if ever I saw one.
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Oh. Of course! Some people said Fear is getting removed. It MUST be true!
Is this maybe to do with a previous comment at some indistinguishable point in the past regarding Burn in the Tank set which has the enemies running away due to the supposed fear they would have at being burnt alive, rather than an actual Fear effect?
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in the latest patch they put live and then took down on the US training server some fire attacks now have -fly. Obviously this is in prelude to fear being removed from the game.
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I can only presume this is sarcasm in some form as it is not a true statement
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Oh, and i got told by my friends, uncles pet dogs friend that is actually some form of bacteria, that in issue eleventybillion, we will get the chance to change our eyebrow styles, and that they are going to remove regen from the game 
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Its just one of these rumour mill snowball effects that as always gets out of hand.
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Bacteria..... eyebrows......!!!!! ZOMG!!!!!!Eleventy11111!!!!!!
CITY OF X IS GOING TO BRING DOWN CIVILISATION AS WE KNOW IT AND TRANSFER CONTROL OF THE PLANET TO A RACE OF MONKEY FACED, DUNE BUGGY EATING LIZARD PEOPLE.
ARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH
(Apologies for the shouting but I couldn't help it).
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Rather than go round and round in circels at what clearly seems to be a post that has some VERY doubtful claims in, can the OP just supply us to the links where fire attacks are being made -fly and fear is being removed.
(My gut reaction is that no links will be forthcoming)
I for one welcome our new MONKEY FACED, DUNE BUGGY EATING LIZARD PEOPLE rulers to Earth.
Currently devs are collecting data on PvP in a kind of macro analysis. Then they go away and try to Micro manage things. Something tells me this is not the way to do it lol.
Last night for instance in Sirens lots of heroes very few villains. I wonder who won, most PvP fights tend to come down to this mass of numbers.
In the latest patch fire is going to be -fly. All toons should have strengths & weaknesses. Currently we have some builds that only work in PvP others in PvE.
Each toon should hav strengths and weaknesses.
Perfect balance is impossible.
Even game reviews say this game was balanced more than most.