A buff to an already excellent AT?:P
I think the whole nature of dominator has always been "Binary AT". It doesnt solo particularly well (probably the worst solo of CoX), and I usually dont hear teams crying out for a dominator...
However, Hit that domination button and you outshine everything...
Hopefully as CoV players get more experienced they will be more regarded for teams. Although they dont significantly help with the ploughing through minions part of the mission, if they save up the D button for the boss at the end things run incredible smoothly when fighting a perma-held boss (or EB)...
What I havent had experience yet is of how doms (even with dom) do against AVs... do they actually pull their weight?
I would prefer more hp, however it is the damage that is really not worth it.
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Dominators give up a bit of control for some good direct damage attacks that Controllers would give their left mouse button for.
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Quoted for lack of truth. My Illusion/TA still hugely outdamages my Ice/Ice dom, although my dom quite possibly controls better.
I was fighting Biff, and Arachnoid EB yesterday. He is a proper EB without purple triangles, so I could chain hold him, however he seems to have some kind of regen ability. With domination up I could reduce him to about 2/3 hp, but when it wore off it would creap back up until he was fully recovered by the time domination became active again, and so on ad infinitum.
I have CJ and Acrobatics (and health) for mez protection.
I really should do something about this signature.
Hmm, what kind of dominator do you play? Since they've been datamining and found that some of the complaints have a basis, I'd say some kind of tweaks are warranted. Also, far more people seem to have trouble with their dominators than other ATs. Personally I really enjoy my mine but I think they can be a bit unapproachable and unforgiving of any errors in either power choices or gameplay by self or teammates.
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What I havent had experience yet is of how doms (even with dom) do against AVs... do they actually pull their weight?
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No they don't and that's my number one complaint with the AT. I took part in an attempt of Lord Recluse strike force this weekend and when it came to fighting the heroes there, I felt a bit like a dead weight on the team to be honest.
AVs and elite bosses that have been downgraded from AVs have the 'purple triangle' mez protection, which is normally impossible to penetrate by a single dominator, even when Domination is up. When the purple triangles are down, the AV can be easily held with two stacked normal holds, easily found in many PPPs as well as several corruptor and mastermind powersets. Also, by the time AVs come along, the damage boost in Domination has substantially diminished in importance, because it doesn't boost enhanced damage. Slows are useful, though. But the aggro I draw is in no way in proportion with my contribution, and that makes things even more hard.
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I was fighting Biff, and Arachnoid EB yesterday. He is a proper EB without purple triangles, so I could chain hold him, however he seems to have some kind of regen ability. With domination up I could reduce him to about 2/3 hp, but when it wore off it would creap back up until he was fully recovered by the time domination became active again, and so on ad infinitum.
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Well, to be fair Biff does have insane regen so it's going to be tough for a class with moderate damage output. I'm generally pretty happy with my solo performance in the 40s. I can solo on Relentless very safely and with quite nice pace, provided I don't meet my Kryptonite (Portals that summon large amounts of Mu or, obviously, AVs/Heroes).
To be honest I think comparisons with some controller builds' damage are pointless because IMO the problem doesn't lie on the dominator side of the equation. Not that I want to call for nerfs.
Glad to see they arent changing domination too much, I like how it works now and was worried all the moaning on the US boards would make them change it a lot. Mezz protection should be nice, means I can take a trip back to sirens and pound that troller that held and killed me as i hit the dom button 
That said, I wouldnt mind a full heath heal when you hit the dom button, or an increasing endurance bonus the higher up the bar goes. I seem to go through endurance like crazy, looking forward to drain psyche (and 6 slotting it).
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I think the underperformance of Dominators against AVs seems to be pretty game breaking, I guess that is because of the binary nature of control.
In CoH all archetypes are useful against AVs.
In CoX I would say Dominators and Stalkers are probably not much use.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
Mez protection is a godsend, I already have CJ and acrobatics, yet every now and then I still end up getting held/sleep which my domination is going on. (Usually with a group hold ready to fire and power boost!)
I feel that dominators are, by and large, fine. They need to sort out the AV's to give us a fighting chance of being able to hit them, this whole purple triangles thing is silly. How can a dominator expect to see the window of opportunity amongst all the special effects a team of 8 Wanging on an AV can bring?
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In CoH all archetypes are useful against AVs.
In CoX I would say Dominators and Stalkers are probably not much use.
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I feel that dominators are, by and large, fine. They need to sort out the AV's to give us a fighting chance of being able to hit them, this whole purple triangles thing is silly. How can a dominator expect to see the window of opportunity amongst all the special effects a team of 8 Wanging on an AV can bring?
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Controller have the same problem, but unlike Dominators their secondary is far more useful against AVs.
The simplest solution I can suggest is making it so that the holds in both controllor and dominator primaries have a significant debuff component.
This would means that spamming the holds would actuallt be useful.
Also I agree that the purple triangles is silly. They have already got a better solution, the PvP one, so that holds give mez protection after they run out. Effectively meaning that you can only hold an AV for half the time, which is the effect of the purple triangles too.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
Yeah, I can solo fine in the 40s on any difficulty level as long as I don't encounter purple triangles or massive regen. Trouble is there are so many of those around.
Basically, is there a serious problem with dominators: no. Is there a serious problem with purple triangles: yes.
I really should do something about this signature.
For the most of the time, I do not have trouble soloing my dominator when I am just fighting regular foes. And in the earlier levels I could even hold my own against EB's. (soloed the sea witch, and the 2 in the mission arch with shivers, as well as several longbows ones). Now in the later part of the game, they defeat me every time, along with the Rikti Portals.
I think the best we could get on our holds would be a damage de-buff. That way we would be performing the same function against AV's, as out hold normally do, reduce the damage taken by the team.
As for the binary functionality of Dominators, I like it. Especially on teams. I can be the slight under achiever that just focuses on taking a few mobs out of the fight (like messes or thoughts dreaded longbow flamethrowers), and then hit Domination when the brow stuff hits the fan and the team is on the edge 
Lastly as for mess protection while on domination. Not that necessary, carrying a few "brake frees" for such situations can solve that problem. I would much rather se us get a significant boost of our HP to make us tougher to kill.
Just a quick update - confirmed by Castle, Domination will now also include almost complete Status protaection, AND you will be able to fire it off while mezzed (like a BF)
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Just a quick update - confirmed by Castle, Domination will now also include almost complete Status protaection, AND you will be able to fire it off while mezzed (like a BF)
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Woot!
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But when I have domination running nothing gets a chance to Mez because it is Mezzed............ at release I liked dominators, but none of the improvements have made me want to pick up my dom since I7 because none of them are of any tangible benefit
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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Woot!
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Double Woot! I cannot wait for this 
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But when I have domination running nothing gets a chance to Mez because it is Mezzed.
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You're not reading everything.
You'll be able to activate Domination while mezzed, if you have the bar high enough of course. If Domination didn't provide Protection then you wouldn't be able to do anything if activating it while mezzed.
I gotta say this is sounding better and better
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Just a quick update - confirmed by Castle, Domination will now also include almost complete Status protaection, AND you will be able to fire it off while mezzed (like a BF)
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Hmmm, maybe its time to bring to life again to 'The DefUser'... LoL
PS: btw, i have been playing some corrs and im really impressed with the ice/kin corruptor, but this isnt the right thread to comment it.
Peace.
Im still not sure if I like the dualistic nature of dominators.. 
My own dom is 24 and I just got annoyed with him.
As far as i have played this AT, I feel like 'God-Mode-On' when i press the happy button. I mezz the double of time, x1.5 mag, and doubles my dmg... That is a real good buff. I dont usually have problems in building my dom bar, so i feel this is a good improve.
Add Fiery Embrace or Aim to this hell and u will be outdamaging most of the ATs, with holds, stuns, knocks in ur arsenal, plus mezz protection...
Its just wow, i think...
PS: if u hit the domination button in pvp, the controller should face ur mezz protection, so contaiment doesnt count... Its like a BF available... cool, man, cool
Mez protection? Fine, but it's not what I need to be able to fight purple triangles.
I really should do something about this signature.
Yeah, u would need a team... the problem is that teams dont need us, thats the problem...
Also, the solo-way CoV is designed...
Peace.
My trouble with Dominators is that they are too dependent on Domination and too lacklustre without it. Adding Mez resistance to Domination only makes this worse (though it does make the class stronger).
What Dominators need is an always on damage increase. Having an entire secondary devoted to damage, but which in fact does insignificant damage, is a waste. If we pay for this by losing our damage bonus in Domination, thats fine by me.
Positron posted something on US dom boards:
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States plays a plant/psi Dom (I think), I don't know what level he is yet. Around the end of April, I started a Fire/Energy Dominator on Justice. I'm level 37 now.
Fun? You bet, and I've played all the AT's in both games at pretty much every level. Dominators are definitely my cup of tea.
States and I -still- keep a close eye on Dominators. Datamining supports SOME of the claims made on these boards, but refutes others. Personal experience with the AT also lends credibility to some of the complaints, while showing others are simply blown out of porportion.
I read a bunch of the posts in this thread, not all of them though (yet). A lot of users hit the nail on the head when stating that you can't think of Dominator as "CoV's Controller". We went through a lot of effort to make sure that the ATs played and felt different between the two games. Dominators give up a bit of control for some good direct damage attacks that Controllers would give their left mouse button for.
Then of course there is the Domination ability, which is the real Jekyl and Hyde of the AT. A mild-manner Dominator with a full Domination bar can, at his or her discretion, become an unstoppable machine of destruction and control. While it never lasts "long enough" (even I am disappointed at hearing the sound effect of it wearing off), I've had missions where I have gotten Domination off four times from mission-entry to having Mission Complete appear on the screen. Good times indeed.
We've got a nice tweak to the Domination ability coming down the pipe (it will crank up your Mez resistance while it is active), and are currently data-mining PvP to see what effect our last set of tweaks to the AT have had.
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...v=#Post5969501
The thread is huge and mostly worthless like most dom balance threads turn out on US forums. Anyway, any thoughts on the promised change, mez resistance while Domination is active? I wonder if he means protection or resistance, like AM. Either way, sounds great although personally I would have preferred to be buffed outside Domination. I feel we're binary enough as it is.
One thing I wish for is that control powers would draw less aggro from mobs not affected by them. If there is no taunting brute on the team and I cast Ice Slick on a spawn heavy on fliers, I might as well write my own death sentence. Also, in AV fights where I'm clearly the least threat in the team, it seems horribly unfair that the AV still comes gunning for me. But I digress.