Is a Tank without Taunt a tank?
How long can you keep this topic running? lol
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How long can you keep this topic running? lol
[/ QUOTE ]'till the end of time, or forums, whichever comes first
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Taunt for me is not ness and is a waste of a power slot for a Fire Tanker.
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It might not be "necessary" but that's a long way from being a waste. Regardless of how good a tank you think you are, taunt can only make you better.
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How long can you keep this topic running? lol
[/ QUOTE ]'till the end of time, or forums, whichever comes first
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I wish both this and the pure builds thread would go away.
I'm not helping am I?
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
The US forums only got to about 3 pages..
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Officer Cuffz lvl 50 Inv/Nrg Tank
Badge lvl 50 dwarf/human Peacebringer
Dark Air lvl 50 Ice/Cold Corruptor
Ayre lvl 50 Storm/Elec Defender
Total Cat: @Officer Cuffz
"When I say interview, I mean engage in combat and defeat..." -Laura Brunetti, on how to deal with Warriors.
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How long can you keep this topic running? lol
[/ QUOTE ]'till the end of time, or forums, whichever comes first
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..or till someone mentions nazis...
aw darn, I did it now didn't I?
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Officer Cuffz lvl 50 Inv/Nrg Tank
Badge lvl 50 dwarf/human Peacebringer
Dark Air lvl 50 Ice/Cold Corruptor
Ayre lvl 50 Storm/Elec Defender
Total Cat: @Officer Cuffz
"When I say interview, I mean engage in combat and defeat..." -Laura Brunetti, on how to deal with Warriors.
With my Ice tank I was teaming with a SS/Inv tank. He had taunt and I didn't. There were just the two of us in the team.
Even though he was using taunt he couldn't seem to get the aggro off of me. He managed to distract a boss for a short while but all the minions were always focussed on me...
I didn't think that would be possible or does mt taunt aura work better than taunt?
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I didn't think that would be possible or does mt taunt aura work better than taunt?
[/ QUOTE ]In my experience, yes, on anything but AV's.
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I didn't think that would be possible or does mt taunt aura work better than taunt?
[/ QUOTE ]In my experience, yes, on anything but AV's.
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Since he gave us no info on slotting of his aura and the other tanker's Taunt and level difference between him and the foes you can say 'In this case yes' but you'll never manage to out-taunt an Ice tanker with CE and Taunt properly slotted. Fact.
Invincibility has a really poor taunt duration so you can easily grab aggro off it, but in no way you should be able to out-taunt someone with taunt, unless he's got poorly slotted taunt (i.e. only the default slot) and you have 3 taunts in CE.
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Since he gave us no info on slotting of his aura and the other tanker's Taunt and level difference between him and the foes you can say 'In this case yes' but you'll never manage to out-taunt an Ice tanker with CE and Taunt properly slotted. Fact.
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Unless something's broken, that is...
The only information I can give is that my CE was slotted with one taunt (oh and I had icicles too, but that wasn't slotted for anything) and we were both lvl 26.
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The only information I can give is that my CE was slotted with one taunt (oh and I had icicles too, but that wasn't slotted for anything) and we were both lvl 26.
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That explains everything then
To out-taunt someone you have to apply a Taunt duration that's twice as long as the one he applies/applied, so with both CE and Icicles you can easily Taunt them longer than an unlotted Taunt.
Especially if you were fighting higher lvl foes because the Taunt duration decreases dramatically with the relative level difference and foes ranking (i.e., a +2 boss will stay taunted for like no time with taunt, while with the pulses of CE and Icicles you can easily keep him taunted)
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The only information I can give is that my CE was slotted with one taunt (oh and I had icicles too, but that wasn't slotted for anything) and we were both lvl 26.
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That explains everything then
To out-taunt someone you have to apply a Taunt duration that's twice as long as the one he applies/applied, so with both CE and Icicles you can easily Taunt them longer than an unlotted Taunt.
Especially if you were fighting higher lvl foes because the Taunt duration decreases dramatically with the relative level difference and foes ranking (i.e., a +2 boss will stay taunted for like no time with taunt, while with the pulses of CE and Icicles you can easily keep him taunted)
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So what you are saying is taunt auras are better than taunt... is that right or merely me putting words in your mouth?
I did tests with taunt using every type of tanker versus eachother on and off and the taunt duration of the secondary power taunt is better than that of an auras but having said that if one tank has been in the mob a while and has been applying gauntlet + damage to the foe(s) your taunting results might vary. The basic unslotted taunt outgunned the aura anyway with no other effect involved.
All tanks level 22 and we even had green jets firetank sharing half a mob with my icetank, literally sharing!
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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(oooh gawd what a long and boring post filled with words I cannot even begin to comprehend. Oh look, a typo! I must now ridicule him and show off how superior I am, Go me!)
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Woah! Dude, chill. I saw your typo and it was funny. Typo's can and will escape multiple spellchecks and I for one, know that. I wasn't making fun of you. Honest.
Edit: I guess maybe I need not have posted such a response, but somehow, at the time, I felt like it. Not to mention a slight want of relaxing the tension of this debate you guys have going on.. interesting and educational as it may be.
Its ok dude, forgotten and forgiven.
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Officer Cuffz lvl 50 Inv/Nrg Tank
Badge lvl 50 dwarf/human Peacebringer
Dark Air lvl 50 Ice/Cold Corruptor
Ayre lvl 50 Storm/Elec Defender
Total Cat: @Officer Cuffz
"When I say interview, I mean engage in combat and defeat..." -Laura Brunetti, on how to deal with Warriors.
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Well I hold it quite well and it works for me maybe we should team up so I can show u how well it works!!!
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Another one breaking game mechanics:P the problems with blazing aura are solveable in so many ways but i still dont like it, if its meant to be offensive let it be the only one that autohits for damage and taunt i say.
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I'm not saying you can't hold aggro with it, I've seen many Fire Tankers in action that did it too
I SO, TOTALLY agree with Shannon here, that'll make a huge difference in the way of playin and slotting a Fire tanker.
If the problem would be PvP and defense based sets, they can always code it like Taunt that in PvE is auto hit while it requires a tohit check in PvP.