Taunt at level 4!?!


Axewrath

 

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uh oh, I saw a level 4 in atlas today - Union - a Inv/Mace Tank with the following powers:

Invulnerability:Temp Invulnerability
War Mace:Bash, Pulverise, Taunt

Erm.. HOW!?

Satan Spawn A.K.A Aureleous saw it too. He'll back me up.. If he ever reads Tankers.


 

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Probably a character created a while ago when Taunt was available at level 4.


 

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Old toon, made before they moved taunt to lvl 10. just not played til now


 

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Ah, okay, thanks.


 

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A sign of a good tanker to come me thinks.


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A really good tanker don't need taunt.


 

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A really good tanker don't need taunt.

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hey, im a good tanker, but i still use taunt, its one of my powers so im going to dam well use it to make my life easier ingame, sure, i can use my aoes to get the aggro, but its much easier if somtimes the mobs are running towards u, instead of me having to chase ppl just to get them in my aoe.


 

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A really good tanker don't need taunt.

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NO matter how good a tanker you are, you will be far far far better with taunt.

Explain why you dont take it?


 

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A really good tanker don't need taunt.

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the day i meet one without taunt i'll confirm it.


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A really good tanker don't need taunt.

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NO matter how good a tanker you are, you will be far far far better with taunt.

Explain why you dont take it?

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he did say he didnt take it, he said a good tank doesnt need it. its true, you can be good without taunt. playing without taunt showed me that taunt just isnt a requirement to good tanking. certainly it can be a great tool for agro control, however i do think player reliance on it is what makes taunt the tool of choice rather than an actual real requirement of tanking.

taunts good, tauntless is good, as long as the player involved is intent on tanking and team care then either way is good. this i see the difference between scranking and tauntless tanking.

And even then my own typecasting is unfair on scrappers as a lot of scrappers i play with are very team orientated and will step up to tank when im down or out.


@ExtraGonk

 

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Yea.. but the guy had a really novelty like name like he just made it 5 minutes ago. The kinda name that would get genericised within a week.
But oh well, flame war ahead for Tankers with and without taunt. Run before someone brings a grenade.


 

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Yea.. but the guy had a really novelty like name like he just made it 5 minutes ago. The kinda name that would get genericised within a week.

[/ QUOTE ]They don't get generic'd if they aren't played and somebody reports them, and obviously that guy hadn't played it much


 

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And even then my own typecasting is unfair on scrappers as a lot of scrappers i play with are very team orientated and will step up to tank when im down or out.

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This i find funny, tauntless tanks who can not possibly protect people from AVs pbaoes i dont.


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im not sure i follow you on this comment, no tank can protect against a pbaoe of any type, its point blank, anything in that pointblank radius is going to get a hit check on them, taunting said av doesnt make a pbaoe any less pbaoeish.

and tauntless tanks can easily maintain aggro on av's, just keep hitting them and they stick to you fine, the only time you'll lose agro is if you run out of endurance or you die or you stop hitting them.

maybe i missed the point of your comment?


@ExtraGonk

 

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im not sure i follow you on this comment, no tank can protect against a pbaoe of any type, its point blank, anything in that pointblank radius is going to get a hit check on them, taunting said av doesnt make a pbaoe any less pbaoeish.


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Actually they can, and it's one of the main advantages Taunt has over relying on Gauntlet and auras to hold aggro. If you can hold their aggro whilst staying out of range of their PBAoE attacks, the AV in question won't use it and will target you with their ranged attacks instead, making things much safer for anyone near the AV. Particularly good for those big Footstomp attacks from Shadowhunter and the like.


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im not sure i follow you on this comment, no tank can protect against a pbaoe of any type, its point blank, anything in that pointblank radius is going to get a hit check on them, taunting said av doesnt make a pbaoe any less pbaoeish.

and tauntless tanks can easily maintain aggro on av's, just keep hitting them and they stick to you fine, the only time you'll lose agro is if you run out of endurance or you die or you stop hitting them.

maybe i missed the point of your comment?

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I think you can protect the team against AV pbaoes by taunt kiting the AV and let the team get in close. As the AV only attacks you and the AoE is never in range the rest of the team is safe. I've seen it done but never actually done it, probably because I've mainly teamed with blasters as my tanks.

I doubt you can do this without taunt.


@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.

 

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As confirmed from the immobilize trick against most AV's, they just use some stupid range attacks against you, instead of (like infernal/mother mayhem) those destroying pbaoe's.


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ah yes i see the point there. you can do it but it does tend to be a bit loose as you start relying on timing it very well for run in punches and your ranged attacks.


@ExtraGonk

 

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A really good tanker don't need taunt

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ur N O T a tanker if u dont have taunt

if ur a "tanker" without taunt ur just another choice for the foe to attack.


 

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Click person -> check target window -> Tanker

Rightclick person -> info -> AT = Tanker.

No mather what powers he picks.. he IS a tanker.
If he is a usefull _tanker_, thats another question.


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This again?

I thought we came to the point where we decided that Taunt is not needed for a Tank, but makes Tanking a whole lot easier.

The same can be said about Stamina or Hasten.


 

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A really good tanker don't need taunt.

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the day i meet one without taunt i'll confirm it.

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hmm...


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A really good tanker don't need taunt

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ur N O T a tanker if u dont have taunt

if ur a "tanker" without taunt ur just another choice for the foe to attack.

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Not true, Aurora. Tanks also have Gauntlet (auto-effect minor taunt) and (generally) AoE melee attacks that cause aggro to be directed at them. Thus tanks _can_ perform their task without taunt.

Having said that, I am of the opinion that taunt is so useful to a tank that it is, effectively, essential. Despite the aggro cap, it can be used both for the AV-kiting outlined above, and simply to gain and hold the attention of mobs who may be out of melee/Gauntlet range of the tank, but are still aggroed on the team.


 

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A really good tanker don't need taunt

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ur N O T a tanker if u dont have taunt

if ur a "tanker" without taunt ur just another choice for the foe to attack.

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Not true, Aurora. Tanks also have Gauntlet (auto-effect minor taunt) and (generally) AoE melee attacks that cause aggro to be directed at them. Thus tanks _can_ perform their task without taunt. [...]

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Not to forget about taunt auras.

But as others, I'd definitely personally prefer to have Taunt, the power, when tanking.


 

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