This happened to me. The team got hit by a PBaoe attack and was wiped out. I have taunt. Its not that I did or didnt have it, in this case I didnt know when and if the villain in question would use such an attack. Some times taunt isnt the whole issue. I got accused of being a bad tank by someone not present here (so I'm not getting at any comments made here). But due to having a real life I dont play this game enough to know exactly when its likely for every villain that has them to launch his AOE thingy. So if I dont fight that villain a lot its not my fault. Taunt is only part of a tank. Sometimes things happen for other reasons.
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Not keen on really getting into arguments with people about this though - I save that for those absorb pain nay-sayers :P
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taunt has often been my psuedo absorb pain. Even more now since ED i wont be without AP on my empath and it has saved the butts of some other empaths alts(who wouldnt have it). It doesnt kill you, bad teams get you killed because if you have to use it that much something is definately wrong (ie tanker not holding aggro).
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Not keen on really getting into arguments with people about this though - I save that for those absorb pain nay-sayers :P
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taunt has often been my psuedo absorb pain. Even more now since ED i wont be without AP on my empath and it has saved the butts of some other empaths alts(who wouldnt have it). It doesnt kill you, bad teams get you killed because if you have to use it that much something is definately wrong (ie tanker not holding aggro).
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oh i wasn't saying absorb pain was a bad power - it's my fave power in the game for all the reasons you state above...
Don't get me wrong - I'm not offended... nor taking it any of it personally. I just don't believe a taunting tank is a necessity in 95% of situations. The scenario you posted is a difficult one because 3 scrappers and 1 tank vs something like Eden is always going to be difficult and require a different type of gameplay than your average mission. With three (squishy) scrappers the tank is always going to have to play a slightly different game... and I (perhaps) wrongly believe that a tanutless tank could still come out of that situation with all three scrappers alive. I might have to go and test it to see what I would do tho :P
Perhaps I didnt show the tauntless tankers ability.. but I still stand firm by the idea that if the tauntless tank had been doing a bad job and not holding the aggro my storm defender would have died vs the Crystal Titan. I know how much aggro my stormy attracts :P
It is a very personal belief tho and I think without teaming in such a situation I'm not sure that people can see my view point
Not keen on really getting into arguments with people about this though - I save that for those absorb pain nay-sayers :P
(for the record I have teamed with a tauntless tank and thought "what the heck?!" but he was Granite... without mudpots and taunt and we were fighting a +4 AV in the shape of black swan... and due to the debuff the punchvoke from gauntlet just wasn't doing a thing... I think that's seriosuly the only time I've been truly worried about a tank without taunt...)
p.s. how is that defender coming along? :P