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I like that idea, but strongly doubt it will happen.


 

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Then again your from Oaklahoma..

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From California, moved here because California is a [censored] hole.

You are a highly judgmental person. Welcome to ignore



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Unlike most of the sheep on here, I have to disagree, I thought being a Stalker was about speed, go in, step out.

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You can play that way, but it's not very effective. Not in PvE anyway. Stalkers are built to do high damage if they can just survive long enough to do it. On a team, that's easy. On a team, they also receive yet more critical hit ability by staying in the fight with everyone else. Defensive sets like Katana and Broadsword let you do that.

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They literally gave us a slow scrapper AT

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Again, you mean? How many is that now? Have you pulled out a stopwatch for Total Focus, Energy Transfer, or Thunderstrike lately? Powerset Proliferation is all about getting someone ELSE'S powersets. i.e. Not specifically designed for Stalkers. It's not about custom tailoring sets to match the new AT, except where strictly necessary. We might prefer such custom sets, but they are obviously more work and more risk of balance problems. There's not too much else to choose from in proliferation that wouldn't either be more work or more risk than Broadsword. I think they went with a safe choice.

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This doesn't bother me nearly as much as people posting "hey the Knives of Artemis have it!", trying to make it viable for us.

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That wasn't a viability argument. It was a concept argument for people who thought the Broadsword set wasn't "stalkery" enough. The Knives don't use a Broadsword model, but they use the powerset with a much slimmer and shorter blade, whcih the player can also do with Weapon Customization. Point being, it "looks" fine on a stalker, since Knives are fairly stalker-like in appearance and behavior even if they are really stealthy scrappers. A Stalker isn't much different, really.

That aside, BS will be a *very* viable Stalker set whether you want to hit and run or stay and scrap. It will burst better than Katana and still have the defense from Parry (if they don't get rid of it).


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Broadsword's gonna be sweet. I don't care if it's A) "just a higher damage, longer recharge ninja blade" or B) it's a lethal set... it's frickin broadsword baby!


 

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I gotta say... I am tempted to make one just to have that tasty Nictus Broadsword from the ITF on a Stalker. Problem is I already have a purpled-out Ninja Blader and should probably work on leveling my DM/Nin instead.

Hmmm. I know! I'll wait for them to proliferate Shields!


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to disagree, I thought being a Stalker was about speed, go in, step out.

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This is a really poor way to play a Stalker in PvE. In PvP, long animations aren't that great, but BS's aren't worse than existing sets - just not existing sword sets.


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Aww I struck a nerve, and you do what the typical female does, clinging onto that ignore option won't solve any actual problems in your life sweety. It just makes you a defensive recluse and a mindless junky for opinions based around your own logic, but I digress.


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Seems like you'e a bit grouchy after mommy limited your play time online. I'll be sure to tell her to give you an additional 5-10 minutes tonight so you can rub one out and relax.

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You can play that way, but it's not very effective. Not in PvE anyway. Stalkers are built to do high damage if they can just survive long enough to do it. On a team, that's easy. On a team, they also receive yet more critical hit ability by staying in the fight with everyone else. Defensive sets like Katana and Broadsword let you do that.

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Yeah I've approached the "meathead tactic" of stalkers a long time ago, once I saw they gave us shields and passives, I knew Stalkers where ninjas that can stay in battle for long periods of time. I never said it was the definitive.

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I think they went with a safe choice.

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Safe as opposed to what?, you're just happy the devs gave the Stalker AT something instead of nothing. By comparison, the safer choice would have been FM, faster recharge times, an AoE, great single target damage, and no redraw times. But that's just by comparison.

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Point being, it "looks" fine on a stalker, since Knives are fairly stalker-like in appearance and behavior even if they are really stealthy scrappers. A Stalker isn't much different, really

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Of course it looks fine to you, you're the one that will accept anything the devs throw at you. I undertsnad the idea of concept, but when I think Stalker, Ninja, Rogue, Thief, etc, I don't think Broadsword. I'm sure you're happy if you get anything , I' am not, I rather they gave us something more.


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I'm gonna roll a BS/Nin.



Care to join me?


 

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Nah just accurate, the end justifies my means, but I can see you don't really have an opinion on this topic and wish to attack me, sorry, I can't give you that hug daddy refused to give you. And I can't offer the baked goods that mommy would have baked for you, if she wasn't busy getting her own assortment of "goods" from the mailman or the delivery guy.

See, I played your game, now, go, play.


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I honestly would, overall, intelligent team play is still fun, even if it is with an AT I think was a bad choice. Thats as honest as it gets. Plus not gonna get much done complaining, might aswell play ball.


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but I can see you don't really have an opinion on this topic and wish to attack me, sorry,

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I do have an opinion on the topic, and I already commented a couple of times. You, however, are more interested in attacking everyone that likes BS and are excited for the powerset.

I feel sorry for you, I really do.


 

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I have yet to read a good example of why BS for stalkers is a bad choice or makes no sense.


Sure it's no FM, but I imagine we will get that next go around. That or Ice. Either way I'm happy.


 

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I have yet to read a good example of why BS for stalkers is a bad choice or makes no sense.


Sure it's no FM, but I imagine we will get that next go around. That or Ice. Either way I'm happy.

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Agreed it may not be my first choice, but there is nothing wrong with having a second sword set. Then again I think we should get shields.


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To Lacrymosa:

Broadsword is a safe choice because it is so similar to BS. There is very little difference between those 2 so if NB is ok BS will be too. I personally don't care for the set and think it was a dumb choice, I also do not care for your attitude in this thread.

To Mngwa:

Personally I feel BS was a bad choice because we have NB and BS doesn't add a significantly different play style from it. BS and Katana are practically the same set and when the game was first released BS and Katana actually were identical except for the damage/recharge values.

To me the point of proliferation is to add a new play experience to an AT by giving them powers from another one. Broadsword fails to add a new experience.

As for it not making sense, well that's debatable and for any RP reason I can come up with why it's wrong, someone else can come up with a reason why it's right.


 

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So you don't care for my attitude?....ok, now that thats been posted we can all keep carrying on with our lives. But I'm glad we can agree , that BS was a bad choice.

I'm sure someone can come up with a reason why its suitable, just like many believe Regen is better than it once was, that doesn't stop it from being completely erroneous.


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Personally I feel BS was a bad choice because we have NB and BS doesn't add a significantly different play style from it. BS and Katana are practically the same set and when the game was first released BS and Katana actually were identical except for the damage/recharge values.



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I agree BS was not a very good choice for this round of proliferation. Fm or Ice would have been a better choice to have a different play style.


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To me the point of proliferation is to add a new play experience to an AT by giving them powers from another one. Broadsword fails to add a new experience.



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I agree what you are saying here. BS and NB/Katana are too alike. They need something else so that you can differentiate between them, besides recharge/animation/damage. This goes for Scrappers as well.


I'm hoping that Castle will take a look at and BS and NB/Katana and give them each something that is different from the other. Doubt it will happen, but there is still a chance perhaps.


 

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I'm gonna roll a BS/Nin.



Care to join me?

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Nah just accurate, the end justifies my means, but I can see you don't really have an opinion on this topic and wish to attack me, sorry, I can't give you that hug daddy refused to give you. And I can't offer the baked goods that mommy would have baked for you, if she wasn't busy getting her own assortment of "goods" from the mailman or the delivery guy.

See, I played your game, now, go, play.

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Here's my opinion:

Broadsword was a bad choice because it's such a vanilla-plain set that doesn't mix it up and you're a piece of internet trash that needs to be removed from our forums.

You either need to learn we're all (or most) intelligent subscribers of this game so some courtesy and decency is due or just troll somewhere else.


 

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I'm gonna roll a BS/Nin.



Care to join me?

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Gonna make a BS/willpower here, got the build already planned with soft capped defense vs smashing/lethal (and that's without using parry, which is only in the build for set bonuses), 55% resistance smashing/lethal, 20% global damage bonus and 85% global recharge. And it has reconstruction =D Might be an end hog tho, but I don't expect things to live long enough to matter

BS/nin would be a tough competitor tho... ggrr with so many choices I will prob end up making one of each.

This is the set I have been really waiting for, a hard hitting stalker melee weapon set. Now I can quit pretending my bane spider is a stalker and move onto better things (nothing against banes of course).


 

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I dont think BS will do bad in the end game. I think whats going to make it hard to play will be the end costs until you get IOs. Recharge wont matter once IOs come into play. It will play just like ninja blade. I think if they got rid of the other minor attack but kept parry then we might have something that makes it stand out from the other sets. I would love to whirling sword crit from hide on a big group during say an ITF.


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