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Realistically, the minus range in Taunt has done nothing but increase the time it takes to kill the taunter. It hasn't gotten more kills for the taunter or his team. No PvPer worth anything will decide to go all melee with a Tank or Brute just because he got taunted. That would be stupid.
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I think alot of you guys are truely missing the point of a good taunter, and the true effects it has on a team. A good taunter, can easily disrupt damage spikes if played correctly.
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that is correct sir. Or save a teamate squishy with next to zero health from 3 heroes lookin to finish em.
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I don't taunt bot without support. That's just stupid. If I'm "Tauntbotting" it's probably for other toons. So while "pop out" they'll be popping off in your face. You can try that though...we'll see how it goes.
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Why is it assumed that the range AT in question is solo? While I keep said taunt bot busy, my team is tearing up his team, or tearing up the taunter. Teams work both ways. Just as you wouldn't taunt solo, I wouldn't bother attacking a taunter solo. Like you said, that's stupid. And since most taunt bots are Tanks, it's also boring as hell. Tanks that teamed get ignored. Tanks that are solo get torn up. Taunt hasn't changed that.
Realistically, the minus range in Taunt has done nothing but increase the time it takes to kill the taunter. It hasn't gotten more kills for the taunter or his team. No PvPer worth anything will decide to go all melee with a Tank or Brute just because he got taunted. That would be stupid.
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why do you assume i couldnt keep more than 1 foe perma taunted? I can do three when im really on my game.
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[Nope. TA Corrs are gonna be farmed far easier and far faster than most other Corruptor secondaries currently out there. They will be a joke, and only slightly annoying to any hero with half a brain.
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Don't really agree with this statement, TA corrupters could do wonders all depends on the team make up.
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Yup, and then you reailze that you're playing "villains" and that they rarely team, and when they "do" team it's rarely well (i.e. you get a team chocked full of purely "solo" oriented toons with zero buffers/debuffers).
Furthermore, for a TA Corruptor to do anything meaningful, he'd have to have a full-time healer/buffer and be damned good at what he does. The last requirement alone removes about 98% of the players out there who might consider TA in pvp, the other two players able to use TA effectively will still need to locate a dedicated healer villainside, so we're back to square one
The reason for TA not doing good Villainside, also has to do with the fact that Blasters have such overpowering face stompnig RANGED damage, that they simply wouldn't survive long enough to lay down any meaningful debuffs. They have to fire off maybe 1 or 2 and then run for their lives. For heroes, since Villains lacked ranged damage, a TA Defender could simply "stay out of melee range" of most attackers and survive just fine. Only to worry about getting pelted "here and there" by random Corruptor attacks or the the random Impale crit (nothing of which was much a threat, they could escape if they really felt in danger). Again, Villains have to worry about the massive ranged damage that Heroes did not.
For example, since the changes to Dominator's, how many "successful" TA's have you seen in zones? Honestly...I haven't seen one. Is it coincidence that when Villains finally recieved REAL ranged damage via Dominators that TA wielders suddenly dissapeared? Or is there a direct connection. A cause and reaction? I for one, don't think it's coincidence. The fact that a Dominator can now ruthelessly attack a TA wielder with good ranged damage, in the same fashion that a Blaster would, their roles and benifits have become ALOT less noticeable. They simply do not survive long enough in your average zone setup (where finding a good healer, or healer at all is hard) to really cause much impact.
So, unless we are talking about 110% organized, true grit, team pvp, then I don't see TA Corruptors being all that potent.
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I do pretty well on my necro/ta mm - when people come to rely on hover - the stalkers love you when you can ground at will.
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[/ QUOTE ]You must be one of those sicko's that still sit outside your ex's house even after she breaks up with you lol. You have been ignored for a while now and still find it necessary to speak things i say. Lucky for me i no longer have to endure your nonsense, but i did say i'd qoute you to remind you from time tio time, when you lashed at me that indeed you are still ignored. And i'm sure being as silly as you are you'll even respond to this knowing i can't see it lol sad. But anyway continue to forum pvp, while i do the real thing.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
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Wtf did i miss, usually ppl are just argueing with terps and his lack of logic?
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Wtf did i miss, usually ppl are just argueing with terps and his lack of logic?
[/ QUOTE ]lol he finds the need to follow me around like a lap dog to no matter what thread i enter and attempt to find some reason i'm wrong about what ever it is the thread is about. I could say alot of ppl dislike the new pvp and he'll try and find a way i'm wrong lol. So at first i didn't notice it, but once i caught on, i just ignored him, and let him know he was ignored and to this day he still finds the need to quote me lol.
Also i ignored him for the reasons you just stated as well, sorta like the cherry on top, made it easy. And the bad part is i have a really thick skin, but i guess some worms can even get under my layers lol. Don't worry he'll have something to say i'm sure.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
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Terps makes me consider IB profen (sp?) a beverage.
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<3 terps
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Listen Not Upsilon, you are now ignored. Take your headaches someplace else cus I don't want to hear it.
If you respond, you're a loser. Winners ignore people who don't agree with everything they say 100%. I'm a winner now.
You lose.
pong has the best pvp evar
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LoLLoLpop. I have no idea what Not Epsilon said lol. It probably has something to do with headaches and medicine and old video games lol. He lost and doesn't even know it.
He obviously got fired from his job and has nothing better to do than follow me around this thread posting about ibuprofen and pong lol.
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<3 terps
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IN CASE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME I'LL TYPE IN ALL CAPS. YOU ARE IGNORED. LEAVE ME ALONE. YOU'RE MAKING ME MADE!!!
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IN CASE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME I'LL TYPE IN ALL CAPS. YOU ARE IGNORED. LEAVE ME ALONE. YOU'RE MAKING ME MADE!!!
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Oh noez hes gunna turn green and tear off his shirt!
<3 terps
I'm so mad right now.
<3 terps
Hate posi tf
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Wtf did i miss, usually ppl are just argueing with terps and his lack of logic?
[/ QUOTE ]lol he finds the need to follow me around like a lap dog to no matter what thread i enter and attempt to find some reason i'm wrong about what ever it is the thread is about. I could say alot of ppl dislike the new pvp and he'll try and find a way i'm wrong lol. So at first i didn't notice it, but once i caught on, i just ignored him, and let him know he was ignored and to this day he still finds the need to quote me lol.
Also i ignored him for the reasons you just stated as well, sorta like the cherry on top, made it easy. And the bad part is i have a really thick skin, but i guess some worms can even get under my layers lol. Don't worry he'll have something to say i'm sure.
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you ignore someone for liking the same things as you and respecting you enough to argue a point with you? let me guess, youre single irl?
I would have loved to have seen the new damage buffs, applied to the old system i wonder what doms would havw been like?
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com
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I think a Blaster's ability to "attack while mez'd" should REALLY be looked into, at least in pvp. Imho, it's too powerful now, especially for an AT that already has more damage than ANY AT out there (and even from RANGE) on top of better survivability than most Brutes if built right. If you ask me, that's a bit much. And imo, Blaster's have always been "a bit much" so when the hell is that nerf ever coming? IF ever? Hmm?[/QUOTE]
I still havent figured out why the Devs since PVP went live are in such love with the Blasters.....I mean nasty, dirty, 1970s porn love.
They must chuckle when they nerf other ATs.........
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Ah, I miss cox. I've been loggin' in every now and then and taking pleasure in interrupting duels. That's always good for a few minutes of fun.
Though I find this forum depressing these days, I did enjoy reading the last page of this thread again. Ravens was always good for a laugh.
Anyway, hope you all are having fun. Keep on keepin' on!
Hey whats up Terp. How ya been?
The thing is, you don't LET a Blaster use Build Up or Aim. You hold them before they even think about it =p. And at that point, they're dead.
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yup, and the guy that said you could only take Mind/ doms is crazy. When the longest hold on a dom comes from earth. Earth/narg dom is quite nice. Alot of people are saying rad/dark Currs are good duel ATs. which again I don't really think heroes have it when it comes to duels. Vills can bring much more to the table. I feel well played Doms > then blasters, trollers, and defenders, hell even scrappers that aren't fire/regen.
Vills still have the edge in PVP. Blasters and Fire/regen scrappers are the only 2 ATs that have a chance in duel against anyone who is good.
PS: I know I'm very late on this post.... :P
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nice sig ..... runs n hides..
50 fire/dev--50 dark/thug--50 earth/storm--50 fire/regen--50 earth/thorn--50 kin/rad
50 TA/archery--50 stone/mace--50 Rad/em--50 Cold/Energy--48 dark/elec--50 grav/rad--45 SOA--40 PB--46 Bs/Fire--50 Ar/Dev--50 Trapz/Dark--50 elec/em tank--50 elec/earth--50 Ghostwidow--50 elec/Therm--50 cold/dark
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Despite people who may tell you otherwise, all villains love to team all the time cus one time I went into RV and joined a team of ate and we killed everyone their.
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I'm not sure if ur being srs, but if you are, thats some funny stuff rite thar.