But thats the kind of thing Twixt would do to grieve people. he annoyed people rather there were villians in the zone or we were by ourselves, so I guess hero farmers (and I did PvP regularly also) were acceptable targets to annoy as well. Some experimental control...... Let me piss everyone off and I bet they will all love me... WHAT EVERYONE HATES ME!?!?!? How can this be????
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This is still a game and there is a player code of conduct and a EULA. There are still norms of decent behavior even in PvP games where players are trying to virtually kill each other.
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He never seemed to have been suspended or banned by the GMs so what does that tell you about your point?
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You don't have to take my word for it, he acknowledges it himself here: What's good about bad play?
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Jesus, split hairs much?
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I am not Jesus, but, if you translate splitting hairs as correcting an incorrect assumption, then, yes, I was splitting hairs.
People who justify being hostile to other people by saying 'but the rules allowed it' are punks, and need to grew a pair.
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This is still a game and there is a player code of conduct and a EULA. There are still norms of decent behavior even in PvP games where players are trying to virtually kill each other.
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He never seemed to have been suspended or banned by the GMs so what does that tell you about your point?
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You don't have to take my word for it, he acknowledges it himself here: What's good about bad play?
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He used wikipedia as a source in that paper.
I'll leave it at that.
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Jesus, split hairs much?
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I am not Jesus, but, if you translate splitting hairs as correcting an incorrect assumption, then, yes, I was splitting hairs.
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I said the game was making her cry. That wasn't an assumption. That meant she cried due to things happening in the game. You then said it wasn't the game it was a player in the game. That is the same thing and completely misses the point I was trying to make.
You aren't Jesus. Jesus would have been able to understand the obvious.
Understanding is a desirable thing. Those who have it should treasure it. Those who do not likely do not realize they are missing it.
Try to look at this another way. There are some people who are hardwired differently than you. Looking at what Dolly wrote, she HAD to keep doing her routine. I don't expect you to understand why. But at least understand that not everyone is like you.
And doing her routine, she was basically tortured. For months! Of course she's gonna have an emotional response!! Of course she shed real tears. Let's look at the results here, not the how's and why's.
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Can't believe I missed this before I posted. Eloquently spoken.
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And those pretend to have it come off as pretentious and ignorant.
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Looking at what Dolly wrote, she HAD to keep doing her routine. I don't expect you to understand why.
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She HAD to keep going to RV? Seriously? Are you people insane?
This thread delivers. Thanks for the entertainment, all.
"Champion (the Community Server... or GTFO) is like a small town where everyone knows each other's names, for better or worse." -kojirodensetsu.
"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." - Maslow's Hammer
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Try to look at this another way. There are some people who are hardwired differently than you. Looking at what Dolly wrote, she HAD to keep doing her routine. I don't expect you to understand why. But at least understand that not everyone is like you.
And doing her routine, she was basically tortured. For months! Of course she's gonna have an emotional response!! Of course she shed real tears. Let's look at the results here, not the how's and why's.
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Note that I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who has been one of Twixt's most outspoken critics so far:
Doll gets zero sympathy from me. Not only did she not HAVE to keep going to RV, but when she was there, she was terrible to deal with. She yelled and screamed at me in Broadcast for killing her a single time. She verbally assaulted me constantly, and she would have epic meltdowns every single time I found her in the zone. She would sic her Heavy on me and then taunt me in Broadcast if I died. She came to these forums and talked about how terrible everyone was who dared interrupt her. She flipped out on me, personally, on numerous occasions.
Twixt has misrepresented his "research" plenty, but Doll's melodramatic reactions and attention seeking behavior do not lend her any respectability.
- Ping (@iltat, @Pinghole)
Don't take it personally if you think I was mean to you. I'm an ******* to everyone.
It's a penguin thing. Pingu FTW.
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Doll gets zero sympathy from me. Not only did she not HAVE to keep going to RV, but when she was there, she was terrible to deal with...she would have epic meltdowns every single time I found her in the zone. She would sic her Heavy on me and then taunt me in Broadcast if I died. She came to these forums and talked about how terrible everyone was who dared interrupt her.
Twixt has misrepresented his "research" plenty, but Doll's melodramatic reactions and attention seeking behavior do not lend her any respectability.
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QFT
In fact there were others far more persistant than Twixt at hounding Dollmistress.
"Life is about perseverance. It's about slogging through no matter what." - Stormy Llewellyn
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This thread delivers. Thanks for the entertainment, all.
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Melodrama in 30 minutes, or your next emo-weeping session is free.
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"Did your Phantom Army just take the Elevator? Imaginary People riding Elevators? *facepalm*
I just like your Fight Club avatar. Makes me wanna watch that movie again.
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This thread delivers. Thanks for the entertainment, all.
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Reading this thread makes me wonder why we outlawed dueling...
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
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Reading this thread makes me wonder why we outlawed dueling...
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Lawyers did not like the possibility of losing money, preferring instead to have the parties argue for months in front of a judge.
Hi iltat. Sadly, I'm not at all surprised by the details in your post. I understand completely your point of view. I'm not condoning her actions in any way. I just happen to understand her point of view as well.
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Try to look at this another way. There are some people who are hardwired differently than you. Looking at what Dolly wrote, she HAD to keep doing her routine. I don't expect you to understand why. But at least understand that not everyone is like you.
And doing her routine, she was basically tortured. For months! Of course she's gonna have an emotional response!! Of course she shed real tears. Let's look at the results here, not the how's and why's.
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Note that I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who has been one of Twixt's most outspoken critics so far:
Doll gets zero sympathy from me. Not only did she not HAVE to keep going to RV, but when she was there, she was terrible to deal with. She yelled and screamed at me in Broadcast for killing her a single time. She verbally assaulted me constantly, and she would have epic meltdowns every single time I found her in the zone. She would sic her Heavy on me and then taunt me in Broadcast if I died. She came to these forums and talked about how terrible everyone was who dared interrupt her. She flipped out on me, personally, on numerous occasions.
Twixt has misrepresented his "research" plenty, but Doll's melodramatic reactions and attention seeking behavior do not lend her any respectability.
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I take issue with the part about siccing a heavy on you. It makes it sound like I was hunting you and then using the heavy to kill you, which is something I wouldn't do.
If I was attacked in RV I would put my heavy on aggressive/attack and then run/fly away.
The rest is probably true. I reacted differently to pvpers who attacked me in RV depending on how well I knew them, how often they attacked me and how they reacted to me asking them to stop.
I did have a good few nice duels with some people, but not very often. The times I got upset were when being killed meant losing a heavy (cos someone else grabbed it while I was respawning), when someone was deliberately "farming" me or when Twixt was around.
That's not supposed to be a moral defence, I know full well how crazy I could be if someone pushed my buttons in RV back then.
The Widow's Dark Hand - leader of Faux Pas
Champion Server
Tee Hee!
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Oh c'mon my threads always deliver. Elf and I aren't even allowed to post in the same thread anymore due to the drama levels that creates.
The Widow's Dark Hand - leader of Faux Pas
Champion Server
Tee Hee!
On a lighter note, you have a sex-a avatar ;}
He seems like an AwSoMe guy that knew how to make fun for himself out of other peoples expense! I say 3 cheers for someone that knows the truth about online gamming! (To ruin others expierence
in all honesty though, I hate peeps like him, at your point instead of crying ide wish horrible things on him, rather it be (and would range from his or her's actions) a sore throat, kick in the balls, fell [censored] first on a broom stick, got into a car wreck, gave me his address, to see him on news "Mr so and so got hit from a semi truck on I275, then was thrown from his car, fell infront of another semi which hit him and tossed him into another truck carring small scropions in the back, where he was later found dead from multiple stings" or just plain old death, which usualy happens anyways so I dont feel bad to ask for it ;}
Now, if your one of the few....or many that play so much it gives no time for a sex life......then its permited to cry, and ill cry with ya, as long as my girl friend gives me permission to do so ;]
But for all we know you could be getting paid to continue the rants of someone that no one really cares about, just to have more peeps buy his pathedic book.
in which case, I think option 4 of my wants for someone would better suffice ;}
Because its not as warrented for option 6 lol
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On a lighter note, you have a sex-a avatar ;}
He seems like an AwSoMe guy that knew how to make fun for himself out of other peoples expense! I say 3 cheers for someone that knows the truth about online gamming! (To ruin others expierence
in all honesty though, I hate peeps like him, at your point instead of crying ide wish horrible things on him, rather it be (and would range from his or her's actions) a sore throat, kick in the balls, fell [censored] first on a broom stick, got into a car wreck, gave me his address, to see him on news "Mr so and so got hit from a semi truck on I275, then was thrown from his car, fell infront of another semi which hit him and tossed him into another truck carring small scropions in the back, where he was later found dead from multiple stings" or just plain old death, which usualy happens anyways so I dont feel bad to ask for it ;}
Now, if your one of the few....or many that play so much it gives no time for a sex life......then its permited to cry, and ill cry with ya, as long as my girl friend gives me permission to do so ;]
But for all we know you could be getting paid to continue the rants of someone that no one really cares about, just to have more peeps buy his pathedic book.
in which case, I think option 4 of my wants for someone would better suffice ;}
Because its not as warrented for option 6 lol
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Oh my god....he's five. I'm sure of it. He's five years old. I had a girlfriend at 5, so it's possible and not entirely impressive, but even then I'm pretty sure I could arrange my thoughts mo' betta than this.
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On a lighter note, you have a sex-a avatar ;}
He seems like an AwSoMe guy that knew how to make fun for himself out of other peoples expense! I say 3 cheers for someone that knows the truth about online gamming! (To ruin others expierence
in all honesty though, I hate peeps like him, at your point instead of crying ide wish horrible things on him, rather it be (and would range from his or her's actions) a sore throat, kick in the balls, fell [censored] first on a broom stick, got into a car wreck, gave me his address, to see him on news "Mr so and so got hit from a semi truck on I275, then was thrown from his car, fell infront of another semi which hit him and tossed him into another truck carring small scropions in the back, where he was later found dead from multiple stings" or just plain old death, which usualy happens anyways so I dont feel bad to ask for it ;}
Now, if your one of the few....or many that play so much it gives no time for a sex life......then its permited to cry, and ill cry with ya, as long as my girl friend gives me permission to do so ;]
But for all we know you could be getting paid to continue the rants of someone that no one really cares about, just to have more peeps buy his pathedic book.
in which case, I think option 4 of my wants for someone would better suffice ;}
Because its not as warrented for option 6 lol
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Oh my god....he's five. I'm sure of it. He's five years old. I had a girlfriend at 5, so it's possible and not entirely impressive, but even then I'm pretty sure I could arrange my thoughts mo' betta than this.
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Somewhere out there, there is a window that needs licking.
"Don't unravel them-- your ears were meant to be that way."
-Steve Aylett
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Is that a way to play the game how it was designed to be played?
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Yes.
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Is it a way to win the zone?
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Yes.
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Nope not in the least bit.
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Sorry, but you're wrong.
Provoking verbal pvp, the way he wrote about it after. Those were wrong.
You could argue that continually capitalizing on easy kills where there were more substantial targets as threats to a zone win was wrong as well, even though they are all valid targets.
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Please explain to me how killing another !!!!!!----->HERO <----!!!!!! is a way to win the zone?
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Maybe he wasn't happy with your use of the heavy, so he had to take it from you and show you how to properly annoy people with it.