The current state of CoX
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Ad Astra,
Posted on: 2009-07-10 20:21 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
This horse is so dead that it's not just lying there anymore. It's carcass has already rotted into the ground and sunflowers and lilacs are growing there now. I understand what your saying but ultimately it's the devs decision if the AE is being abused or not and whether it's hurting the game. I'm sure they are closely monitoring the AE on every server and datamining how many people are using it and how quickly they are hitting 50. If in time they realize it's a bad thing they'll do something about it. Until then it's here to stay and no need to rehash old arguments until something new is announced by the developers.
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1-50 - AE farmz.
It's all been said. The state of the game is up to the devs. True. When I look at the numbers on Freedumb, I see them falling off a bit, 20 to 25% parking their butts in Atlas for a free ride to 50. You have new people coming in, and long time players leaving, Time will tell.
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me too (+1)
'cause we *really* needed another state of the game thread about AE, huh?
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I know this is a dead horse issue but I wanted to voice my concern about AE and what is happening.
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And because this is such a dead horse issue, there's numerous threads you could have posted on instead of starting another.
Beta vet here and I agree with ya Lorock............totally.
There was a dead horse?
I have done only three AE missions. One bad, one so-so,one pretty good.
The trouble I have is getting on a team, so I amble about just doing missions as always and am basically unaffected by AE.
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Yes, AE is being abused. Theres something around now worse than the meows.
The current state of CoX is slightly flaccid. It needs some little blue pills.
Going Rogue IS that little blue pill. We'll be standing at attention in NO TIME!
I'm excited about going rogue so I can put all my toons in one area instead of having to go to a diff side that I really don't like to play in.
However, if the current state persists through GR then it will be overshadowed by that regardless of how good it is.
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Thankfully, CoX has evolved to a point there is no "Path to Success". After many many years, players finally have options on how to get from 1 - 50. They can choose what fits their playstyle and enjoy the game they way they want to enjoy it.
Does something need to be done about allowing someone to gain six levels in one AE mission? Yes. Only because it is an obvious flaw in the current system. Past that, let people play how they want to play.
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Does something need to be done about allowing someone to gain six levels in one AE mission? Yes. Only because it is an obvious flaw in the current system. Past that, let people play how they want to play.
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I think thats the consensus as evidenced by multiple threads on the very topic.
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me too (+1)
'cause we *really* needed another state of the game thread about AE, huh?
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Thankfully, CoX has evolved to a point there is no "Path to Success". After many many years, players finally have options on how to get from 1 - 50. They can choose what fits their playstyle and enjoy the game they way they want to enjoy it.
Does something need to be done about allowing someone to gain six levels in one AE mission? Yes. Only because it is an obvious flaw in the current system. Past that, let people play how they want to play.
[/ QUOTE ]Your second paragraph completely negates the point you make in the first paragraph.
Not really. He said excluding the current flaw let people play how they want, which supports the first paragraph in saying that there is no set path to play and people have the right to choose their path.
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One man's flaw is another man's path of play. It's like saying "play the way you want, but not THIS way." Contradictory, whether you want to admit it or not.
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Take this for what it is.....
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I'm not sure that's a good idea- this thread desperately needs dressing up to be palatable.
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The Current State of CoX.
I more or less stopped playing about 9 months ago. I paid. I would log on for a few minutes here and there. Occasionally I'd play for several hours but for the most part I wasn't here because I was burnt out with CoX.
As recent as a couple weeks ago. Just before I15 launch I started becoming very interested in CoX again and playing it every chance I get. If truth be told it was the CO Beta which drove me back. For me I've just gotten back that old joy I had when playing City. City has held my interest far longer than any MMO out there and the reasons are varied.
None of that has really changed. WE have new systems and new shinies. but the core of why I love this game has remained intact. While I yearn for an Engine and graphical update I think the state of this game is strong still.
I know I don't represent every new player, but...
Hi! I'm a new player (coming up on 5 weeks). Previous MMOs - lots of WoW, poked a bit at Vendetta and Sword of the New World.
I think I've done..... 4? AE missions. They had some potential, but I can always go back to them after I've seen the regular game.
Been mostly solo, so I haven't done any TFs, but I've been trying to hit every story arc that I can manage. (It was kind of annoying in the earlier ranges, since I had to turn off XP in order to get most of them; but now that I'm in the high 30s, there seems to be plenty of leveling space to fit all the arcs in.)
So...... not *all* of us newbies are getting sucked into the AE farm PL'ing. 
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I know I don't represent every new player, but...
Hi! I'm a new player (coming up on 5 weeks). Previous MMOs - lots of WoW, poked a bit at Vendetta and Sword of the New World.
I think I've done..... 4? AE missions. They had some potential, but I can always go back to them after I've seen the regular game.
Been mostly solo, so I haven't done any TFs, but I've been trying to hit every story arc that I can manage. (It was kind of annoying in the earlier ranges, since I had to turn off XP in order to get most of them; but now that I'm in the high 30s, there seems to be plenty of leveling space to fit all the arcs in.)
So...... not *all* of us newbies are getting sucked into the AE farm PL'ing.
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PLing... It's not that big of a deal. People will miss out on content but if it's content they don't want to do then... *shrug*
For a new player. It's going to be a big deal to get that first 50 on each side but once you've done it...It ceases to be a big deal. I kinda like that there is PLing out there to help people get past that first hurdle but one of the great things about CoX is most of the game takes place before you hit 50.
I know this. I'm one of them that have never gotten sucked into the system either.
There is a rampant influx of those that have. In the player question system there is a post by a 50 who didn't know that the slots they kept adding to their powers were meant to hold enhancements... thats just one of many examples.
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Take this for what it is but I wanted to speak up on something that becoming a concern to me. Here is a little background. Ive played City of Heroes since day one. The day it was out of Beta I signed up and started having fun. Nothing in this game was given to you, you had to work for it. I was one of many who would spend hours of a time in a now little known place called Perez Park, I had the maze of a park memorized for when I got that dreaded mission hidden in the depths of the forest. But as does everything times change, in CoH time goes very fast and soon a cool hotspot like the park is soon replaced with something newer and better. For Prez it was the Hollows. I didnt agree that is was better than the park. I hated getting killed every time I tried to cross the canyon but, its life. Change happens.
I know this is a dead horse issue but I wanted to voice my concern about AE and what is happening. When announced I believed AE to be the best thing to hit CoH in a long time. But the dark side to it is that no one seemed to expect that it was going to be abused in such a way. People who are just starting the same are reaching lvl 50 quicker then if they were door sitting. But Honestly this is not the thing that bothers me
What Im concerned about is that new payers are taking advantage of this are power leveling and are missing out on what this game really is. It took me over a year it hit 50 for the first time. I played every combination of power sets until I found the one that fit me right. When I played the missions I read everything, I wanted to know the story and truthfully there are a lot of good ones in this game. Another thing I love is that Taskforces are awesome, if you have time its totally worth it. These new players are missing out on these experiences and might even quit due to boredom. For all the good AE has brought in CoH/V I see a lot of negative.
But as I said before, Change happens and we move on. For better or worse we have AE and there are a lot of people abusing it. If change happens and you are no longer able to power level your toon, I hope all of you new players are willing to take a look at what CoH has to offer. Here is a example I seen on another post and its also a good guide if you would like to see the game for what it is.
Level 1-5 - Fiddle around Atlas Park
Level 5 - King's Row, talk to the Detective
Level 5-7 - Do three police missions and the bank Safeguard mission for your jet pack
Level 8-15 - Go to Hollows and run the arcs there, leaving to do the other stuff in between
Level 10-12 - Do three police missions in Steel Canyon and the bank Safeguard mission for your jump pack
Level 12 - Invention Tutorial at Steel Canyon University (don't do it at 10 -- at 12 you get a level 15 enhancement)
Level 12 - Midnighters Club mission arc from the Steel University (Montague Castanella)
Level 15-25 - Faultline, leaving when you need to level up for next contact tier
Level 15-20 - Five radio missions in Skyway plus a Safeguard to get a self rez power
Level 20-30 - Striga, same as Faultline
Level 20-25 - Mercedes Sheldon, Midnighter Club, three arcs
Level 20-25 - Five radio missions in Talos plus a Safeguard to get a summon teammates power
Level 25-35 - Croatoa, same as Striga
Level 25+ - Oroborous, four intro missions and a soloable TF
Level 25-30 - Five radio missions in Talos plus a Safeguard to get a movement increase auto power