Energy assault: power push

so i saw power push had its damage bumped up from .4 to 1.64 so is it a good damage power now as well?

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so i saw power push had its damage bumped up from .4 to 1.64 so is it a good damage power now as well?

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Yes, it's quite good now.

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awsome thx

It's not just 'quite good' - it's a flat-out *amazing* attack now. It's more powerful than the old power blast was, has a 40% accuracy *bonus* - no missing at low levels! - and guaranteed knockback. It's like someone took a standard 8 second recharge blast like subdue or lightning bolt and gave it a massive accuracy boost and a powerful secondary effect. Not to mention that it's an extremely quick animation for such a good attack - it is the best DPA attack in energy assault nowadays. Anyone who skips the new version of power push is straight-up insane.

its really fun to run up to a slept/held baddie, powerpush and que bonesmasher for a flying 1-2 HP destroying combo.

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also a good power for 4 kinetic crash IOs for some KB/KD protection. im suprised they really upped power push's damage like that

Take Power Push.

Slot it well.

Love it, caress it, tell it you care.

It won't let you down, I guarantee it.

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It's not just 'quite good' - it's a flat-out *amazing* attack now. It's more powerful than the old power blast was, has a 40% accuracy *bonus* - no missing at low levels! - and guaranteed knockback. It's like someone took a standard 8 second recharge blast like subdue or lightning bolt and gave it a massive accuracy boost and a powerful secondary effect. Not to mention that it's an extremely quick animation for such a good attack - it is the best DPA attack in energy assault nowadays. Anyone who skips the new version of power push is straight-up insane.

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Um, crazy.

With all the other changes did Energy Assault really need a FOURTH single target ranged attack? Are Defs and Blasters gonna get a similar change?

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It's not just 'quite good' - it's a flat-out *amazing* attack now. It's more powerful than the old power blast was, has a 40% accuracy *bonus* - no missing at low levels! - and guaranteed knockback. It's like someone took a standard 8 second recharge blast like subdue or lightning bolt and gave it a massive accuracy boost and a powerful secondary effect. Not to mention that it's an extremely quick animation for such a good attack - it is the best DPA attack in energy assault nowadays. Anyone who skips the new version of power push is straight-up insane.

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Um, crazy.

With all the other changes did Energy Assault really need a FOURTH single target ranged attack? Are Defs and Blasters gonna get a similar change?

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If we didn't have Push as a damaging power, it'd be hard to get a full attack chain going. Even at 50 with Hasten there are sometimes a few gaps in mine.

Note the damage boost is ONLY in PvE

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Note the damage boost is ONLY in PvE

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Is that intentional? Bug it.. find out. : p

Sounds intentional to me...having a power that is pretty much Guaranteed KB shouldn't also have high dmg + an acc bonus to it, seems a bit broken. I'm just glad it works in PvE that way...

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Sounds intentional to me...having a power that is pretty much Guaranteed KB shouldn't also have high dmg + an acc bonus to it, seems a bit broken. I'm just glad it works in PvE that way...

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Well, one thing to consider is that Energy doesn't have a cone equivalent like Psychic Scream or Static Discharge. Total Focus and Power Burst, among others, also got much more damage than their Blaster equivalents. It may have gotten more single target damage because it has lower AoE damage.

OTOH, Psi Assault also got a much more damaging version of Telekinetic Thrust. It's a melee attack, not ranged, but otherwise has the same knockback effect.

The fact that it's melee is probably why it's dmg is higher than power push. Getting in melee counts as a risk I suppose...I wouldn't be surprised if it got looked at though.

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Take Power Push.

Slot it well.

Love it, caress it, tell it you care.

It won't let you down, I guarantee it.

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Good advice, sir! Very good advice indeed!

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Are Defs and Blasters gonna get a similar change?

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If they want to be amazing, they can roll Doms. If they want to continue to suck, they can stay where they are.

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Note the damage boost is ONLY in PvE

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In PvP you'll be slotting it for KB anyway so no harm no foul. But yeah, still bug it.

WARNING: I bold names.

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Are Defs and Blasters gonna get a similar change?

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If they want to be amazing, they can roll Doms. If they want to continue to suck, they can stay where they are.

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lol


btw, I have seen plenty of characters with such a combination of recharge and animation time that they still had gaps at high levels. Peacebringers and Katana come to mind, among others.

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btw, I have seen plenty of characters with such a combination of recharge and animation time that they still had gaps at high levels. Peacebringers and Katana come to mind, among others.

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While I suppose it is possible to slot around, in general Kheldian forms are not going to have complete chains. They only have four attacks. And it's hard to come up with the slots to spare on Recharge on a Kheldian.

Personally, I consider that an excuse to just form change like crazy.

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btw, I have seen plenty of characters with such a combination of recharge and animation time that they still had gaps at high levels. Peacebringers and Katana come to mind, among others.

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While I suppose it is possible to slot around, in general Kheldian forms are not going to have complete chains. They only have four attacks. And it's hard to come up with the slots to spare on Recharge on a Kheldian.

Personally, I consider that an excuse to just form change like crazy.

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Human form Peacebringers. The recharges are Very long. IOs make slotting not much harder than on other ATs.

I don't feel like creating a new thread but would I gimp myself much by skipping both Bone Smasher and Total Focus? Hear me out.

I am trying Mind Control for the first time. Mind has a lot of useful powers and it is all ranged.

I looked at the numbers and /Energy's ranged dps is quite impressive. I mean Power Bolt, Push, Blast and Burst is a very solid attack chain. I don't know if I have much time using melee attacks to be honest. Mind control doesn't have -kb so my target after Power Push is always so far away unless I push him to a corner/wall.


Have any of you tried /Energy without melee? Or maybe just skipping Total Focus? I am not a huge fan of 3s attack. I feel 70% of the time it's either overkill or wasted. Another thing is other ATs use Total Focus for mag 4 stun as well but I already have hold. What do you think?

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I don't feel like creating a new thread but would I gimp myself much by skipping both Bone Smasher and Total Focus? Hear me out.

I am trying Mind Control for the first time. Mind has a lot of useful powers and it is all ranged.

I looked at the numbers and /Energy's ranged dps is quite impressive. I mean Power Bolt, Push, Blast and Burst is a very solid attack chain. I don't know if I have much time using melee attacks to be honest. Mind control doesn't have -kb so my target after Power Push is always so far away unless I push him to a corner/wall.


Have any of you tried /Energy without melee? Or maybe just skipping Total Focus? I am not a huge fan of 3s attack. I feel 70% of the time it's either overkill or wasted. Another thing is other ATs use Total Focus for mag 4 stun as well but I already have hold. What do you think?

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TF is WAY too good go to even fathom skipping anymore.


Don't skip TF.

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I don't feel like creating a new thread but would I gimp myself much by skipping both Bone Smasher and Total Focus? Hear me out.

I am trying Mind Control for the first time. Mind has a lot of useful powers and it is all ranged.

I looked at the numbers and /Energy's ranged dps is quite impressive. I mean Power Bolt, Push, Blast and Burst is a very solid attack chain. I don't know if I have much time using melee attacks to be honest. Mind control doesn't have -kb so my target after Power Push is always so far away unless I push him to a corner/wall.


Have any of you tried /Energy without melee? Or maybe just skipping Total Focus? I am not a huge fan of 3s attack. I feel 70% of the time it's either overkill or wasted. Another thing is other ATs use Total Focus for mag 4 stun as well but I already have hold. What do you think?

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In I15, I could see all-ranged working just fine actually. You do less damage, but it's hardly weak damage. I disagree that Total Focus or Bone Smasher are overkill; on team settings, use them on Bosses/LTs. Solo, they're great. TF is only overkill solo if you use it on minions with under 50% health left.

PS, Power Push still allows a melee attack to go off after you use it, if you queue it up right away. Total Focus is also mag 3 stun for all ATs now.

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I don't feel like creating a new thread but would I gimp myself much by skipping both Bone Smasher and Total Focus? Hear me out.

I am trying Mind Control for the first time. Mind has a lot of useful powers and it is all ranged.

I looked at the numbers and /Energy's ranged dps is quite impressive. I mean Power Bolt, Push, Blast and Burst is a very solid attack chain. I don't know if I have much time using melee attacks to be honest. Mind control doesn't have -kb so my target after Power Push is always so far away unless I push him to a corner/wall.


Have any of you tried /Energy without melee? Or maybe just skipping Total Focus? I am not a huge fan of 3s attack. I feel 70% of the time it's either overkill or wasted. Another thing is other ATs use Total Focus for mag 4 stun as well but I already have hold. What do you think?

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See my calcs in:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....e=1&fpart=1

At the end of page one where the "real server time" dpa of the attacks are compared. I think pure ranged is very viable now.

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I don't feel like creating a new thread but would I gimp myself much by skipping both Bone Smasher and Total Focus? Hear me out.

I am trying Mind Control for the first time. Mind has a lot of useful powers and it is all ranged.

I looked at the numbers and /Energy's ranged dps is quite impressive. I mean Power Bolt, Push, Blast and Burst is a very solid attack chain. I don't know if I have much time using melee attacks to be honest. Mind control doesn't have -kb so my target after Power Push is always so far away unless I push him to a corner/wall.


Have any of you tried /Energy without melee? Or maybe just skipping Total Focus? I am not a huge fan of 3s attack. I feel 70% of the time it's either overkill or wasted. Another thing is other ATs use Total Focus for mag 4 stun as well but I already have hold. What do you think?

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See my calcs in:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....e=1&fpart=1

At the end of page one where the "real server time" dpa of the attacks are compared. I think pure ranged is very viable now.

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Especially since you won't have to Joust EBs/AVs to get your full DPS.

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Thanks for the replies.

I think I am only going to take Total Focus. Bone Smasher is nice but I've decided to fully slot both Power Push and Power Blast, which means I barely have time to cycle Bone Smasher especially after I got Power Burst.

I did notice that being Mind/Energy is a little bit problematic as I don't have -kb. I need to watch out when my Power Push pushes way too far. lol

Remember though that Mesmerize is something like 20ft longer distance, so you can always hit them again. Usually twice, since if you queue another attack immediately, it'll still fire while the enemy gets knocked back. Great way to make quick ranged attack chains that end with the enemy still mezzed.