Windows 7 info for you guys

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Ah, see, I noticed it mentioned 32-bit and 64-bit in the hardware requirements, but I wasn't sure if that meant it would work for either or not. I didn't want to just assume, but this all clears it up. Thanks, all. I'm probably going with the Home Premium as I don't really have anything that would need to run XP (unless I have some old PC games that won't run otherwise, but I'm not sure if that will be worth it). I don't really remote desktop, either. Not to mention spending $50 less is a good idea for me right now.

[/ QUOTE ]Most likely the edition they are selling has both since its retail. If it had said oem you only get one or the other.

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Yeah, it looks like all the retail things I'm seeing have both and aren't OEM.

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EvilRyu is right - upgrades are diiiiirty! When Microsoft comes out with a new OS, the only thing for it is to go out and buy a new PC with all the latest hardware.

(Though, if OnLive has its way with us gamers, this could be the last hardcore PC I ever buy. Big "if" but still kinda amazing...)

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I'm confused... is Windows 7 just 64-bit ready no matter what? All the pre-order things I've been seeing on Newegg and Best Buy don't mention 32 or 64 bit, and I was wanting to move up to 64 bit so Windows will see all 4 GB of my ram. Can anyone help clarify this?

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Honestly if you have a 64 bit processor you should be moving up anyway. There were a lot of problems with XP 64, but that has nothing to do with how it played out on Vista and now on 7. You'd honestly be a fool to install the 32 bit version. Unless you have hardware that is 6 years old... there's drivers.

And if you DO have 6 year old hardware... come on guy.. a new OS isn't what you should be looking into right now.

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(Though, if OnLive has its way with us gamers, this could be the last hardcore PC I ever buy. Big "if" but still kinda amazing...)

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I figured out how OnLive works: They set up "data stargates" at different sectors of the country to instantaneously send the information without any noticeable network latency or destruction of bandwidth. The stargates themselves are simply a massive collection of Denon AKDL1 Dedicated Link Cables set in a Möbius strip located at the source and destinations.

The only setback so far has been all the Gamma Ray Bursters they keep sending in a continuous, accelerating loop.

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(Though, if OnLive has its way with us gamers, this could be the last hardcore PC I ever buy. Big "if" but still kinda amazing...)

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I figured out how OnLive works: They set up "data stargates" at different sectors of the country to instantaneously send the information without any noticeable network latency or destruction of bandwidth. The stargates themselves are simply a massive collection of Denon AKDL1 Dedicated Link Cables set in a Möbius strip located at the source and destinations.

The only setback so far has been all the Gamma Ray Bursters they keep sending in a continuous, accelerating loop.

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The problem I have with those cables is your data travels so fast through them that the electrons approach infinite weight, creating micro black holes that cause you to lose your data.

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(Though, if OnLive has its way with us gamers, this could be the last hardcore PC I ever buy. Big "if" but still kinda amazing...)

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I figured out how OnLive works: They set up "data stargates" at different sectors of the country to instantaneously send the information without any noticeable network latency or destruction of bandwidth. The stargates themselves are simply a massive collection of Denon AKDL1 Dedicated Link Cables set in a Möbius strip located at the source and destinations.

The only setback so far has been all the Gamma Ray Bursters they keep sending in a continuous, accelerating loop.

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The problem I have with those cables is your data travels so fast through them that the electrons approach infinite weight, creating micro black holes that cause you to lose your data.

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What you have to do then is reconfigure the layout of your cables such that they conform to the wave properties of the data medium you're using. Since you're not sending micro-packets of time itself versus the cheaper physical entity of electrons, you'll have to put the cables partially out of phase with local space. I recommend four dimensional matter-wave prisms composed of eleven-dimensional strings compressed to ten dimensions.

If that's out of your budget, just put a cardbox around the cables and put a cat into it every 50 miles. Don't open the box after that, though.

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Red: ~Undoing of Virtue on [3 guesses]~

I've been running W7 for quite a while now, using the RC build 7124, and I have to say it's refreshing to see MS get something right for once. Everything I've been doing has been running great. Oddly, CoH has been even faster (fps +10ish over previous OSs). Not sure how that works. Coming from Vista over to W7 is like waking up from a nightmare. I'm buying the Ultimate asap.

Technet, eh... Hmmm....

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Word of warning: make sure you grab the right build. I somehow managed to get build 7000 off of TechNet over the weekend, get everything installed and how I like it... and realized that build expires in 2 days. So, I get to do another fresh install to a 7100 build.

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diff between 32 and 64 bit -

Main diff is 64 bit can address more memory. The ability to address more physical memory lets Windows minimize the time that is required to swap processes in and out of physical memory. Therefore, Windows can manage processes more efficiently.

The other differences are - 64 bit drivers must be digitally signed and 32 bit drivers are not supported on 64 bit so check with your hardware maker to make sure they have a 64 bit driver.

64 bit uses hardware Data Execution Protection (DEP) which is in some modern cpus - for security. 32 bit can do DEP but it is software based and less secure.

Kernel Patch protection - only in 64 bit - this prevents the windows kernel from being updated by malicious code.

If you have a cpu that can support 64 bit I would definatley go that route. You lose nothing, even if you have less than 4 gb.

In addition, Windows 7 will have a virtual XP mode I am currently testing. It runs a virtual XP sp3 in a windowed or full screen session and you can install any program that works on xp only and use it there.

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I've been running W7 for quite a while now, using the RC build 7124, and I have to say it's refreshing to see MS get something right for once. Everything I've been doing has been running great. Oddly, CoH has been even faster (fps +10ish over previous OSs). Not sure how that works. Coming from Vista over to W7 is like waking up from a nightmare. I'm buying the Ultimate asap.

Technet, eh... Hmmm....

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hmm I never really had a problem with Vista other than the nivida driver stopped responding. Truth be told Vista was before it's time. Developers were slow to write vista supported device drivers (cough nvidia cough) and the ones they did supply crashed the OS.

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To be fair to manufacturers, with Vista came a whole new way to wrote drivers and access parts of the OS that hadn't existed with previous versions of Windows.

I learned about some of it from a friend I used to work with. He said the best thing about it was it forced the engineers to clean up their code in writing drivers.

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To be fair to manufacturers, with Vista came a whole new way to wrote drivers and access parts of the OS that hadn't existed with previous versions of Windows.

I learned about some of it from a friend I used to work with. He said the best thing about it was it forced the engineers to clean up their code in writing drivers.

[/ QUOTE ]Lets not forget these same manufactueres had forever and a day to beta vista and they still didnt have drivers ready. I still blame them not the OS.

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Kenja No Ishi Earth/Empathy Controller
Legendary Sannin Ninja/Pain Mastermind
Entoxicated Ninja/PSN Mastermind
Ninja Ryukenden Kat/WP Scrapper
Hellish Thoughts Fire/PSI Dominator

Thank You Devs for Merits!!!!

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In addition, Windows 7 will have a virtual XP mode I am currently testing. It runs a virtual XP sp3 in a windowed or full screen session and you can install any program that works on xp only and use it there.

[/ QUOTE ] Only certain cpus will be able to do this feature. Just be sure to look up virtualization with your proccessor's name on a search engine.

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Bump and Grind Bane/SoA
Kenja No Ishi Earth/Empathy Controller
Legendary Sannin Ninja/Pain Mastermind
Entoxicated Ninja/PSN Mastermind
Ninja Ryukenden Kat/WP Scrapper
Hellish Thoughts Fire/PSI Dominator

Thank You Devs for Merits!!!!

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I've been running W7 for quite a while now, using the RC build 7124, and I have to say it's refreshing to see MS get something right for once. Everything I've been doing has been running great. Oddly, CoH has been even faster (fps +10ish over previous OSs). Not sure how that works. Coming from Vista over to W7 is like waking up from a nightmare. I'm buying the Ultimate asap.

Technet, eh... Hmmm....

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hmm I never really had a problem with Vista other than the nivida driver stopped responding. Truth be told Vista was before it's time. Developers were slow to write vista supported device drivers (cough nvidia cough) and the ones they did supply crashed the OS.

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I think it had more to do with the fact that MS bowed to manufacturer pressure from Intel and allowed machines to be labeled as Vista capable when they clearly were not. That is called fraud. And they paid for it by having Vista bombed, its repuation savaged and lawsuits filed.

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