*4 years and no fire/kin controller*
I don't have a fire/kin.
I do have a level 16 fire/rad and a level 16 mind/kin. I have a rad mind, so if you assume that that cancels out the /rad and the /mind, what is left is a fire/kin.
Does that count?
As for "about every acount," I hereby call for a vote, anyone who doesn't have a Fire/kin troller please speak up! I put myself on the list as #1.
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ok then what you guys are sayin that if they did change the fire controller ability...then people would still play like they have been? i doubt it...i'm just sayin i heard about the radius of dominator shockwave...they give one respec after you solid build a toon then you gotta pay for a respec even after the fact you did respec trial and it still takes me about 4 respecs just to wipe out w/e i may have in the toon
also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game.. i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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Kids? Well, considering your sentence construction (if you can call them sentences), I would think one of two things:
<ul type="square">[*] You are a kid yourself, and have yet to learn proper spelling, grammar and syntax.[*] You are a fighter who has taken waaaay too many hits to the head, severely impacting your logic and reasoning areas in the brain.[/list]
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...... Half my global don't even light up...... about every account has a fire kinetic controller. but nooooo it's ok.....
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They probably are hiding from you because they don't want to deal with your poor grammar and sentence structure.
As for "about every acount," I hereby call for a vote, anyone who doesn't have a Fire/kin troller please speak up! I put myself on the list as #1.
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I have one, but I quit playing her when I found out it was FotM.
I have an uncanny ability to create characters only to find out later that the combo is really popular for farming, or is considered an "easy" or "overpowered" combo. I've stopped playing an SS/WP Brute, Elec/Shield Brute, Fire/Kin Controller, Bots/FF MM, and Archery/Mental Blaster.
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ok then what you guys are sayin that if they did change the fire controller ability...then people would still play like they have been? i doubt it...i'm just sayin i heard about the radius of dominator shockwave...they give one respec after you solid build a toon then you gotta pay for a respec even after the fact you did respec trial and it still takes me about 4 respecs just to wipe out w/e i may have in the toon
also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game.. i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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Kids? Well, considering your sentence construction (if you can call them sentences), I would think one of two things:
<ul type="square">[*] You are a kid yourself, and have yet to learn proper spelling, grammar and syntax.[*] You are a fighter who has taken waaaay too many hits to the head, severely impacting your logic and reasoning areas in the brain.[/list]
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Not to defend the OP, but more often than not my spelling, grammar, and syntax royally suck and im 26. Was never good with them while in school, not good with them now. Probably why I dislike writing so much 
Also I have an Ice/kin troller..... does that count? 
edit: Archery/mental blasters are FOTM? Huh... made one for the hell of it and didnt know that..... maybe I should continue working on the character, think she has been sitting at lvl 9 or 10 for a while now
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Didn't they JUST do this by making imps ignore recharge?
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Recharge became irrelevant in this situation. When you summon new imps, it kills the old ones.
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Just noticed this ...I'm pretty sure they're talking about how fast the imp's attacks recharge, rather than how fast the imps themselves recharge
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You are correct, cause the imps was only using one attack because it recharged so fast.
It is a good fix(not nerf) not a bad one. It makes it so pets cycle through thier attacks now unlike before.
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Do they? I know this was the stated reason, but specifically what pets now function better than they did before?
Additionally, how is their output now compared to how it was when it was 'broken' when under recharge? (I'm thinking of bruiser now vs bruiser with ff rech proc in footstomp and rech improving IO's. And please don't cite that handclap is now better and makes the bruiser better, that change was independent of the recharge change).
Also, how did locking recharge benefit pets with a single or very few attacks?
Lastly, (and I know lolpvp) how did making pets immune to recharge debuffs help pvp?
I agree the change may have been necessary, but to wholesale call it "good" seems like something a koolaid drinker would say.
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When it comes to thugs, I have no ideah. When it comes to ninjas, it help mine. When it comes to the dark servant, it helped mine. I havent really noticed anything with my imps.
I don't really play MMs. I hate them darn things. I just have a ninja/poison MM. It has been level 32 since a month after CoV release. Thats how much I like MMs. I just notice a difference with Hero pets. Now they cycle through their attacks....most of the time, not always. Dark servent seems way better to me though since the fix.
And wtf is wrong with kool-aid. I used to drink it as a kid and I mix that with pure grain sometimes when I get tired of mixing it with other things. 190-300 proof is a tad harsh strait. Noway I would drink my uncle's moonshine strait!
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I'm a bit confused. Did you have your ninjas slotted with things like:
genin - kb IO sets - ex Forcefeedback kb/end
jounin - kb, -def, -tohit IO sets - ex Undermined def debuff/rech
Oni - kb IO sets
And your dark servant slotted:
with any of the multitude of set IO's it takes
And/or did you play with a recharge buffer that buffed your pets?
What I'm asking is that if you never had any +rech affecting your pets in the first place then how is that any different than how it is on live. Why are they working better now?
You may or may not fit this group, but a lot of people that weighed in on the pet changes didn't have their pets ever buffed by +rech.
We know Castle was monkeying around with attack ranking preference of pets at the same time. While we weren't told my conspiracy theory is that those changes are a large part of why some pets now work better because their recharge never changed in most cases where improvements were reported.
However, burying it under the guise of the pet recharge locking makes it much easier to get that change accepted.
So, I thought that I might offer up my translation services... Here are his posts as best as I can tell:
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OK, there is something I just dont understand, and ask if a developer (or whoever) could please explain it to me?
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They have nerfed many different sets in the past, most recently [Psychic Shockwave] from Psychic Assault; however, there are two powersets that I have not seen changed: Fire Control and Kinetics. Do they mean to tell me that out of all of the characters who can farm they had to change Dominators but not Fire/Kins [Fulcrum Shift]?
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I hardly play the game anymore because every time that I play something else is nerfed for no reason. I suspect that these changes have resulted in many of my friends leaving the game. It is like how Ultra-Rare Recipes are random but I have toons that seem to get them repeatedly ((Editors Note: Not at all sure on this line)). Yes, I do understand that the game has bugs, and Im not complaining, but just about every account seems to have a Fire/Kin. But nooooo it's ok...
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I just want to see some changes made to Fire/Kins, but I think I know why they still perform as they do. The Devs know that they will lose even more people ((compared to what?)) if they change them. I read something about how they changed PvP to make it equal for all ATs, but who in this game actually PvPs on a Fire/Kin Controllers? I've seen a Fire/Psy Dominator PvP, but they insist on nerfing the Dom and not the Troller? Issue 15 brings no changes to [Fulcrum Shift] and has no type of adjustment made to damage?
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This brings up another point, people that are Lvl 30 make a team to fight against Lvl 50+ in Cap au Diable ((in AE, presumably)) and then when they hit 50 they don't even know what powers to pick or slot. I mean you can play the game however you want, but when someone sends me a tell and ask me "hey do you have rest slotted any" we have a problem here ((and the relevance is?)).
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At any rate, how is it that Fire/Kins gets all this glamour and fame, but all these other powersets get nerfed? If the Devs can change just one power, PSW, on a Dominator... Why can't they change how many [Fire Imps] a Controller can summon?
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Then what you guys are saying is that if they did change the Fire Controllers ability, people would still play just as they have been? I doubt it. I'm just saying that I heard about the radius change of PSW... However, they only give you one respec to remove the IOs from it. It would take more than 4 respecs to do that, and you have to pay for additional respecs, even if you run Respec Trials.
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Also, for all of you that have something smart to say... Don't turn this into a personal issue because this is just a game.
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Oh, and I fight in real life and I doubt that I would even pay attention to any of you kids!
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Not to defend the OP, but more often than not my spelling, grammar, and syntax royally suck and im 26. Was never good with them while in school, not good with them now. Probably why I dislike writing so much
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You have a point, and I'm sure there are many in your boat as well... two things seperate you from the OP, though. You can find the [Shift] key, and I didn't hurt myself trying to read your post.
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You have a point, and I'm sure there are many in your boat as well... two things seperate you from the OP, though. You can find the [Shift] key, and I didn't hurt myself trying to read your post.
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Ya know, that is very true. It also made me LoL
"YOU DID NOT READ THE THREAD. GO READ THE LONG, LONG THREAD.
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Ya know, that is very true. It also made me LoL
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*Bows* At your service, I'll be here all week.
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also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game.. i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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Kids? Well, considering your sentence construction (if you can call them sentences), I would think one of two things:
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Exactly what I was thinking. Either way, childishly bellicose. Protip: if you don't want to run the risk of hearing others' thoughts, don't post on a web forum.
Freedom: Blazing Larb, Fiery Fulcrum, Sardan Reborn, Arctic-Frenzy, Wasabi Sam, Mr Smashtastic.
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They probably are hiding from you because they don't want to deal with your poor grammar and sentence structure.
As for "about every acount," I hereby call for a vote, anyone who doesn't have a Fire/kin troller please speak up! I put myself on the list as #1.
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I have an ill/kin and a fire/rad!
...oh god did I do that wrong
The ill/kin is one of my favorite characters ever. So much fun.
I'm just a holy fool, oh baby it's so cruel
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I don't have a fire/kin. I don't have a fire controller of any variety. I used to have two fire/storm controllers (at separate times), but they were both deleted for reasons I can't remember. In fact, the only Kin I have is a kin/rad defender, so...
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also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game..i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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This made me laugh. Lots of kids "fight in real life". It doesn't mean they're any good at it, and it also means they're masters of the Art of the Mouth Runner.
Of course, if you want to have a go at me, I'm all for it. My tae kwan do is a tad rusty, but I'm sure it'll do. Where did I put those trophies and medals again... ugh. I always lose those things because I don't bother displaying them. Pretty sure I still have my gi, though, and I do need an excuse to wear it again. I like that thing.
Main Hero : Annilixxion -- Lv50 Blaster
Main Villain : Menkaura -- Lv41 Mastermind
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"You will bend to my will, with or without your precious sanity." --Dragon Mage
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I don't have a fire/kin. I don't have a fire controller of any variety. I used to have two fire/storm controllers (at separate times), but they were both deleted for reasons I can't remember. In fact, the only Kin I have is a kin/rad defender, so...
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also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game..i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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This made me laugh. Lots of kids "fight in real life". It doesn't mean they're any good at it, and it also means they're masters of the Art of the Mouth Runner.
Of course, if you want to have a go at me, I'm all for it. My tae kwan do is a tad rusty, but I'm sure it'll do. Where did I put those trophies and medals again... ugh. I always lose those things because I don't bother displaying them. Pretty sure I still have my gi, though, and I do need an excuse to wear it again. I like that thing.
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If you two do go at it please remember to get it on camera.
"YOU DID NOT READ THE THREAD. GO READ THE LONG, LONG THREAD.
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also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game..i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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This made me laugh. Lots of kids "fight in real life". It doesn't mean they're any good at it, and it also means they're masters of the Art of the Mouth Runner.
Of course, if you want to have a go at me, I'm all for it. My tae kwan do is a tad rusty, but I'm sure it'll do. Where did I put those trophies and medals again... ugh. I always lose those things because I don't bother displaying them. Pretty sure I still have my gi, though, and I do need an excuse to wear it again. I like that thing.
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If you two do go at it please remember to get it on camera.
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Indeed. I think that could be interesting... but if he really does fight in the MMA (as his profile an above statement purport), you might just get your butt handed back to ya.
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also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game..i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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This made me laugh. Lots of kids "fight in real life". It doesn't mean they're any good at it, and it also means they're masters of the Art of the Mouth Runner.
Of course, if you want to have a go at me, I'm all for it. My tae kwan do is a tad rusty, but I'm sure it'll do. Where did I put those trophies and medals again... ugh. I always lose those things because I don't bother displaying them. Pretty sure I still have my gi, though, and I do need an excuse to wear it again. I like that thing.
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If you two do go at it please remember to get it on camera.
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Indeed. I think that could be interesting... but if he really does fight in the MMA (as his profile an above statement purport), you might just get your butt handed back to ya.
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Not to be an a** but.... either way it would be interesting to watch
"YOU DID NOT READ THE THREAD. GO READ THE LONG, LONG THREAD.
Then, perhaps your butt cheeks will relinquish their grip on your chin." -The_Zekiran
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Summer Camp.
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also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game..i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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This made me laugh. Lots of kids "fight in real life". It doesn't mean they're any good at it, and it also means they're masters of the Art of the Mouth Runner.
Of course, if you want to have a go at me, I'm all for it. My tae kwan do is a tad rusty, but I'm sure it'll do. Where did I put those trophies and medals again... ugh. I always lose those things because I don't bother displaying them. Pretty sure I still have my gi, though, and I do need an excuse to wear it again. I like that thing.
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If you two do go at it please remember to get it on camera.
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Indeed. I think that could be interesting... but if he really does fight in the MMA (as his profile an above statement purport), you might just get your butt handed back to ya.
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Not to be an a** but.... either way it would be interesting to watch
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Heh, like I said in another post. I have 27 years invested in martial arts. Chang Moo Kwan if it matters, which it does some. No matter what, I dont think he would last very long with me. Don't need to mention the awards and money I have made from it Been filling in for my Sabunim for the past 7 years when he is away training still. He travels over seas to train after 35 years in it. He ask me too(would be cool) but noway I could spend a month out of a year over there.
This guy is awesome.
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damn not working so I may never know what this thread was about and yet it doesnt bother me...
Triceth LVL 50 Ice/Storm Controller
Ghost Scrapper LVL 50 MA/reflexes Scrapper
Gespin LVL 44 Spine/Regen Scrapper
Treal LVL 41 Emp Defender
Radill LVL 41 Ill/Rad Troller
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also for all of you really got something smart to say...don't turn this into a personal issue cause this is just a game..i fight in real life and i doubt any of you kids i would pay attention to.
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This made me laugh. Lots of kids "fight in real life". It doesn't mean they're any good at it, and it also means they're masters of the Art of the Mouth Runner.
Of course, if you want to have a go at me, I'm all for it. My tae kwan do is a tad rusty, but I'm sure it'll do. Where did I put those trophies and medals again... ugh. I always lose those things because I don't bother displaying them. Pretty sure I still have my gi, though, and I do need an excuse to wear it again. I like that thing.
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If you two do go at it please remember to get it on camera.
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Indeed. I think that could be interesting... but if he really does fight in the MMA (as his profile an above statement purport), you might just get your butt handed back to ya.
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Not to be an a** but.... either way it would be interesting to watch
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Heh, like I said in another post. I have 27 years invested in martial arts. Chang Moo Kwan if it matters, which it does some. No matter what, I dont think he would last very long with me. Don't need to mention the awards and money I have made from it Been filling in for my Sabunim for the past 7 years when he is away training still. He travels over seas to train after 35 years in it. He ask me too(would be cool) but noway I could spend a month out of a year over there.
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Everyone is a martial arts master on the interweb I was just on a forum the other day and apparently most gamers can also run a sub 17 min 5k. Most gamers also make $250k/year, but they love their mom so much they let her live with them...heh
I will say that if he is a good MMA fighter I'd put my $250k/year on him , but MMA is super fotm everywhere right now and there is a world of difference between being an MMA fighter and being a good MMA fighter.
IME almost invariably people that feel the necessity to claim they are exceeding good at fighting aren't. It also reminds me of Dwight from the office attaching his martial arts experience to his work resume 
It's the guys who don't say a word that you have to worry about.
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Hmmm, didnt know that. Thanks for the info. However, I myself have never had a reason to lie or brag. Proof is in the puddin'. Me going to dojang 2 times every week for 27 years must all be in my head. Wow, wonder what I was really doing all that time? 
I better start paying more attention at what I do on tuesdays and fridays.
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They probably are hiding from you because they don't want to deal with your poor grammar and sentence structure.
As for "about every acount," I hereby call for a vote, anyone who doesn't have a Fire/kin troller please speak up! I put myself on the list as #1.
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can i be #2?
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Sorry, I made one back in issue 2 before they was FOTM.