Why didn't stalkers get shields?


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I was gone at the time, and I recall an announcement saying shields would be on all 4 melee ATs but lo and behold, no.

I was asking, as looking over the powerset, it looks like it'd be fairly stalker friendly, being a defense based set with some extra utility.

I realize it'd have the issue that it would only work with Elec Melee, Energy Melee, and Dark Melee, so maybe that's why?

Please don't tell me they claimed it was thematic, because heck, a shield with a built in cloaking device makes a lot more sense than hiding by REGENERATING or with ELECTRICITY.

I will now leave you with this image that prompted me to ask this question.

Assassin Shield Strike!


 

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I was gone at the time, and I recall an announcement saying shields would be on all 4 melee ATs but lo and behold, no.

I was asking, as looking over the powerset, it looks like it'd be fairly stalker friendly, being a defense based set with some extra utility.

I realize it'd have the issue that it would only work with Elec Melee, Energy Melee, and Dark Melee, so maybe that's why?

Please don't tell me they claimed it was thematic, because heck, a shield with a built in cloaking device makes a lot more sense than hiding by REGENERATING or with ELECTRICITY.

I will now leave you with this image that prompted me to ask this question.

Assassin Shield Strike!

[/ QUOTE ]You hit it on the nose, 100% thematic i remeber someone saying they couldn't see a stalker hiding behind a shield or something like that. May have been castle i forget.


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Mind you, I am not sure that a stalker shield set would be worth playing. Odds are they would have removed the taunt aura (AOO) to put hide in the set which means you would have a low defense set that no longer has its primary draw - a great damage boost. Without that you have a set that has no better defenses than ninjitsu without the tools of ninjitsu.


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And all I wanted was an elec/shield stalker.


 

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A special stalker version would be sick though, imagine the shield itself is your cloaking device. And you toss your shield from up to 40 feet away to AS lol


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I see stalker shields being like how solid snake hides in that freaking cardboard box and no one knows he is there. It could definately work.


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I concur, Stalkers with shields!

/signed

Now my question, why don't stalkers have Fire Melee, I mean Scrappers got it.

Imagine an assassin who never leaves any identity to who he is by burning the victims to ash, along with their houses and/or surroundings, now THAT just screams awesome.


 

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yeah.

It's not really any more of a stretch than being GLOWING while hidden (EA, Elec, regen...) and a move like *Lightning Rod* being stealthy enough to keep you hidden.

I think the better question is why I can't choose between DB and elec for my next stalker.


 

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Now my question, why don't stalkers have Fire Melee, I mean Scrappers got it.

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Because the DoT damage from fire would screw up Placate or Hide?


 

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Now my question, why don't stalkers have Fire Melee, I mean Scrappers got it.

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Because the DoT damage from fire would screw up Placate or Hide?

[/ QUOTE ]Um.. there are already screwed see the placate is bugged thread for details.


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That particular placate bug is a pvp issue. It's avoided in PvE because the ai was specifically programmed to not pay attention to stalker secondary effects. Because Fire's secondary is DoT the ai can't be programmed to not pay attention to it without horribly breaking the game.


 

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Now my question, why don't stalkers have Fire Melee, I mean Scrappers got it.

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Because the DoT damage from fire would screw up Placate or Hide?

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Spines attacks do DoT damage yet there's a spines primary.


 

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Not all spine attacks have the dot though do they?


 

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That particular placate bug is a pvp issue. It's avoided in PvE because the ai was specifically programmed to not pay attention to stalker secondary effects. Because Fire's secondary is DoT the ai can't be programmed to not pay attention to it without horribly breaking the game.

[/ QUOTE ]It's not restricted to pvp only, npc's ignore placate just the same. It has to do with any mez or dot during placates.


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"Just ignore the floating shield, its not like theres a Stalker behind it or anything..."


 

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Not all spine attacks have the dot though do they?

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True - Assassin's Impaler, Build Up, and Placate don't have the DoT. Just all of the other powers in the set.


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Not all spine attacks have the dot though do they?

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True - Assassin's Impaler, Build Up, and Placate don't have the DoT. Just all of the other powers in the set.

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Fire Melee's Placate would have DoT obviously.


 

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Hadn't realized that.

Hmmm....

Can't think of a particularly good reason for lack of fire melee, though I would prefer Ice melee.

As for shields
meh.


 

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Why didn't Stalkers get shields? Because the Devs Stalkers to be able to use Shield Charge. It'd be like giving every Stalker access to Lightning Rod from Electric Melee, but not have to balance it with the weaker ST attacks.

Also, it'd be almost as unstealthy as electric armor.


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Actually now that I think about it

Shield Charge may be part of the reason.

Consider an Elec/Shield Stlaker

Lightning Rod->ShieldCharge->Thunderstrike Crit
That's a lot of aoe damage for a largely st AT


 

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My goodness! Why didn't I think of that? :P


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Shadow Maul and Midnight Grasp from DM also have DOTs


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2 out of 6 powers having a DoT wouldn't be enough to impact overall performance


 

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Shadow Maul does not have a DoT, it is a DoT. You won't have the DoT running when you placate to ruin it.


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