merits, do you get good rolls ?


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i remember pre trial and tf merging for random rolls, i got really weak rolls. i used 200+ merits and i got one numnia heal/end i think it was. all the rest were very lame, like confusion, sleeps, etc.

i want to get a miracle +recov recipe but i only have about 80ish merits i gotta save about 170 more merits. which i dont mind really since i love doing sfs but, takes a long time since i only get to do about 1-2 sfs a week tops.

so i wanted to ask, do you all go random roll and if so do u usually get decent ones? a few people i have heard getting about 1/4 of the random rolls were actually decent. what about u all?


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One time I got LotG 2 times in a row. I was a happy panda. Ever since; nothing but snipes, immobilizes, and the like. :/

It's been the same since before merits... I get nothing of value 90% of the time, my friend lucks out and gets more LotG/Numina/Miracles than he knows what to do with. ('Cept he knows what to do with them; not give them to me. 'ebil marketeer that one is)

Although I thought they semi-recently made the reward rolls slightly weighted so set types that very few people even had the powers to slot them in were a bit less frequent.


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I go random roll, and get a mix of good/bad, depending on which pool I go for.

It really helps though, to have a bunch of alts in an SG, so that the roll results can be used by either one of my alts or a SGmate.


 

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Random Rolls are random.

http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Random_Rare_Recipe_Roll

Shows you whats in the pool, remember it is now weighted, and the 'popular' slotted sets such as damage ones, are significantly more likely than for example the confuses.

From my own posted experiments with the Pool A weighting the only mez types you see a lot of are holds and slows (slows can be slotting in most ice powers)



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Without question universally and emphatically "NO". The Merit reward system could have been a good idea if it were a purchase system instead of a purchase "chance" system. As it is, it is an absolute failure.


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I buy random rolls with AE tix because you can't specifically pick out what you want... merits I save and buy what I specifically want because I don't trust the RNG enough to give me what I want before I spend the equivalent number of merits on random rolls, it's the only way to get recipes of levels lower than a set's maximum once you're level 50, and I also don't like getting hosed by the market, which already happens if I'm after purples.


 

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The Merit reward system could have been a good idea if it were a purchase system instead of a purchase "chance" system.

[/ QUOTE ]It is. It's both.


 

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Very roughly our rolls during testing went from "60% crap" to "60% good."

I recommend using the following incredibly simple steps to make money on the market:

1. Look at something kinda nice in your build.
2. Look at the cost of the recipe, salvage, and crafting.
3. Look at the lowest of the last 5 sales.

Is there a profit margin? Buy one, craft it, and put it up for sale. If you don't have the patience to leave a bid (or a sold item) up for a week, this is not the moneymaking system for you.


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What would you guys and girls do with 663 merits?

I am leveling a new Kat/WP Scrapper, he is 43 now and I have not spent a single merit. When I get to 50 should I buy a Numina regen/recov for myself and a couple of LoTG rech to sell for 70 mil a piece? Or should I go for 30 -40 random rolls?


 

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Without question universally and emphatically "NO". The Merit reward system could have been a good idea if it were a purchase system instead of a purchase "chance" system.

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It *IS*. You can use it both ways. But the random rolls are cheaper so some people take them.


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What would you guys and girls do with 663 merits?

I am leveling a new Kat/WP Scrapper, he is 43 now and I have not spent a single merit. When I get to 50 should I buy a Numina regen/recov for myself and a couple of LoTG rech to sell for 70 mil a piece? Or should I go for 30 -40 random rolls?

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If you're just going to sell them, especially heroside where the big 3 recipes aren't so far above and beyond everything else in market price, take the rolls. Then check recipe and salvage prices vs constructed IO prices and see if you'd do better making it before you put it up.

If you need something in particular, buy it.


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Random Rolls lend themselves to my Alt-itis (can't play one character long enough to build up many merits) and my general impatient nature. If I manage to get over 40 I always end up doing a random roll.

I just can't help myself. The only way I can put it off is if I'm 'close' to another roll.


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Without question universally and emphatically "NO". The Merit reward system could have been a good idea if it were a purchase system instead of a purchase "chance" system. As it is, it is an absolute failure.

[/ QUOTE ]Merits can be used to purchase specific recipes or to roll on a chance based on pools.

*TICKETS* can only be rolled on a chance based on pools. You've got the two mixed up.


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What would you guys and girls do with 663 merits?

I am leveling a new Kat/WP Scrapper, he is 43 now and I have not spent a single merit. When I get to 50 should I buy a Numina regen/recov for myself and a couple of LoTG rech to sell for 70 mil a piece? Or should I go for 30 -40 random rolls?

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If you plan on merit buying directly for the big ticket IOs like miracle or numinas I suggest buying it now and using it to get to 50 rather then waiting on 50, because those are global IOs that will benefit your regen/recovery alot while you level and are not something where a lvl 50 version is any better then a lvl 20 version- the lower lvl ones are actually MORE valueable because you can slot them on low lvl toons for exactly the same effect as on a 50 and gain the benefits all through your levelling process.

So buy miracle and numinas at the LOWEST possible levels offered(miracle lvl 20, numinas lvl 25? i think) if you do a stright merit purchase, and slot them ASAP to gain the most benefit from them while you level up.

Trust me on this. A lvl 17 toon with a miracle +recovery slotted has 33 levels to use that IO which helps alot to get to 50.

So at 43 I would buy a lvl 25 numinas for sure because that IO will help your WP alot on the ride to 50.

I would skip the miracle on a WP toon, because with stamina and QR plus a NUmi IO do you really NEED more end? I dont. So I use only the numina and regen tissue uniques because those directly benefit my regen which is more important then my recovery on that powerset.

Bottom line: Dont wait. Buy as soon as possible for unique global IOs like Miracle, Numinas, perf shifter (not unique but same principal), and regen tissue +regen. Buy them at the lowest level, and slot them immediately. Your road to 50 will be much smoother this way.


 

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Just a note on levels: Miracle and Performance Shifter start at 20, Numina's at 30... the 25 is Luck of the Gambler and has a half-aspect for defense, so you might want it at higher than 25. I personally never do and prefer it being available at the lower level, but if you're OCD about the best possible defense... In any case, if you want those levels you need to set the slider appropriately.

The Steadfast Protection unique is the same way with resistance, but if I'm playing a defense based character I typically don't have the resistance power early enough to care about the minimum level (10) and like the mid-upper 20s for those.


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Never played a WP myself, so do they have any holes that you can plug with set bonuses? How often does a WP get hit? Going for some sort of Defense-buffing set bonuses might be something to consider (possibly ranged-Def. since Katana has a nice melee-def buffing power) I know WP gets Quick Recovery and if you stack that with Stamina, there shouldn't be many, if any, blue-bar issues even without the uniques, and their tier-9 ignores recharge buffs of any kind (power, enhancement, or set bonus). If none of that, it never hurts to add more overall damage, especially on a lethal-heavy set since that type is one of the most resisted.

What you do really depends on what direction you want to go with the character... it might be cheaper to 250 merits on a LotG or two, sell them, get enough inf. to buy potentially 2-3 3-4 part sets from the market if they give the bonuses you want... gotta look at the overall inf-per-merit cost if you really wanna squeeze all the value out of them.