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youre coming down so something is pushing you that way.
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Log in and look at the animation again. Your not yet coming down when you strike. Your at the peak of your jump still spinning backwards and away. Just sayin'
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And even then if they do it'll still have the same cast time.
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Yep....and?
I don't want to convince you or anyone else not to like the current eviscerate animation. All I'm saying is there are just as many people that hate it as there are that love it. It's a crazy over the top animation and you either like it or you don't. No reason to argue.
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youre coming down so something is pushing you that way.
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Log in and look at the animation again. Your coming down when you strike. Your at the peak of your jump still spinning backwards and away. Just sayin'
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And even then if they do it'll still have the same cast time.
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Yep....and?
I don't want to convince you or anyone else not to like the current eviscerate animation. All I'm saying is there are just as many people that hate it as there are that love it. It's a crazy over the top animation and you either like it or you don't. No reason to argue.
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Yup. Eviscerate and AidSelf are the two powers I'm hoping on most for alternate animations.
Be well, people of CoH.
Aid self could definetly use some love too. Just for concept reasons it would be great to have a magical animation and maybe even another tech/natural option with the change costume emote where you inject yourself.
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Aid self could definetly use some love too. Just for concept reasons it would be great to have a magical animation and maybe even another tech/natural option with the change costume emote where you inject yourself.
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Bump and Grind Bane/SoA
Kenja No Ishi Earth/Empathy Controller
Legendary Sannin Ninja/Pain Mastermind
Entoxicated Ninja/PSN Mastermind
Ninja Ryukenden Kat/WP Scrapper
Hellish Thoughts Fire/PSI Dominator
Thank You Devs for Merits!!!!
hehe, Crab Spiders 
oh yeah...that's the good stuff
So I was trying to figure out how much recharge it will take to have Focus/Shockwave/Gloom as my attack chain. I've been trying to get into PvP lately and I think I might make my first dual build character using this "tankmage" pvp build as a second build. Hope Focus and Shockwave stay ranged attacks
359% in Shockwave and 379% in Gloom : good luck
And for your sanity, stay away from PvP, the stupid DRs and dmg normalization made it quite absurd, I don't think you would like it^^
Well....for the past 4 1/2 years I have stopped into PvP about every 6 months. I usually spend about 20 minutes there and remember exactly why I never PvP, then leave for another 6 months or so.
However, I want the Day job accolade for logging out in PvP zones so I went into Recluse's Victory the other night and ended playing for a bit. I actually found a team and had a reallt fun 2 hour PvP experience. Ever since then I have been messing around in ther a little bit every day, and while there are still idiots in there...I've been having a pretty good time. Crazy I know.
Claws is a horrible set for PvP.
I love it for PvE though and can't wait to have a claws/fire brute.
I wanted claws for brutes ever since the animation change, yet after slowly getting my villain experience up (always been on the heroes side), I don't think it would do well, honestly I just don't.
Conceptually I still think its perfect...its the fury builder....nuff said. But I highly question the damage capabilities. Its not a hard hitting set, so you'd be relying entirely on fury to keep your DPS up and plain and simple mid-late game, if your on a team, especially a steamrolling one...fury is not that easy to come by and keep up. For the set to function late game, IMO moves like eviscerate/shockwave actually need a dmg boost, especially when you factor in knockback/animation time costing you fury...I can picture watching the fury bar drop 1/4 in one evicerate animation.
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Claws is a horrible set for PvP.
I love it for PvE though and can't wait to have a claws/fire brute.
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but I had fun chasing down flying Brutes w/ my Claws Scrapper
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Claws is a horrible set for PvP.
I love it for PvE though and can't wait to have a claws/fire brute.
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Depends on your build. Most Katana and Broadsword Scrappers have a hard time defeating me in duels, but just yesterday I was taken down by a claws scrapper. When your cast times are that quick, damage procs can really add up.
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Well....for the past 4 1/2 years I have stopped into PvP about every 6 months. I usually spend about 20 minutes there and remember exactly why I never PvP, then leave for another 6 months or so.
However, I want the Day job accolade for logging out in PvP zones so I went into Recluse's Victory the other night and ended playing for a bit. I actually found a team and had a reallt fun 2 hour PvP experience. Ever since then I have been messing around in ther a little bit every day, and while there are still idiots in there...I've been having a pretty good time. Crazy I know.
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Well I guess that if you just go in the zone, mess up a few minutes and have fun it's perfect, keep it on like that, I wouldnt like to change that.
But if I play something I have always to understand the mechanics about what I'm doing. It's just my personnal opinion but for having pvped pretty hardcore in my previous MMOs the i13 PvP thing is prolly the worse I have seen until yet.
I can say it wasnt made by a PvP player for PvP players, but by a PvE dev for PvE players and it pretty fails big time when you like PvP and a true sense of competition and achievement.
The best thing that happened for casuals and PvE players with i13 PvP is that it made leave all the hardcore PvPers... so now the zone is more casual friendly, with much less competition and taunting. But it's sad at the same time. And definitely not a good thing for the game.
My claws scrapper kicks butt in Virtue PvP...
Proc-heavy and fully slotted, Claws can be a killer in PvP with two ranged attacks and Laser Eye Beams >.>
Anyways, I can't wait for claws with brutes. I might actually be able to get one past lvl 34... I only have 4 brutes stuck there...
Fire/Stone
DB/Fire
Elec/Stone
Mace/Shield
Maybe I can finally get one through that rut for me x.x
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Claws is a horrible set for PvP.
I love it for PvE though and can't wait to have a claws/fire brute.
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Just curious... why do you think claws would be horrible for a Brute in pvp?? Lack of BU/Rage power...damage type...no mezz power..heavy hitter takes a long time to cast?
I can understand SS (the best) and SM (2nd to SS IMHO) being better... but the fast casting times, low end, and range attacks must count for something for a Brute (Follow Up has it uses too in a long melee fight). Maybe putting it 3rd in line or tied with EM as far a pvping goes?
Claws might be 2nd best over SM with Follow Up stacking, less end use, and more range.
Your thoughts?
I think you can make any set viable. I've been doing pretty well with my DB/WP brute in RV, and I hear everyday that DB and WP are both horrible in PvP. You just have to look at how the powers work differently in PvP and make a build to work with what you got.
I think Slash, Focus, Shockwave, Gloom will kick some serious [censored] in RV once I get the build slotted out right with Procs and all. Might use Follow up quite a bit as well to keep my tohit buffed high, but I'm thinking more about Focus and Shockwave being able to keep some folks on thier ars. Throw in Gloom and the Nemesis staff and your pretty much all ranged with near tank defenses.
Also, I've noticed the popular thing to do atm for scrappers is use Katana's DA or Broadswords Parry every other attack in duels. It's quite affective when dueling another melee AT, it doesn't do jack against ranged or aoe damage.....so claws tend to win those fights quickly.
Any speculation on whether or not Follow Up will be changed? I recently got my Claws/SR scrapper to 46 and just love that power. The reason being the whole "Brute+Perma Follow up+Fury". Honestly, I don't think that it's a very good reason to change it at all, but you never know.
50 Tankers: Ice/EM, Stone/WM, Fire/Stone, Dark/Ice, Inv/SS, Inv/Dark, Elec/Elec
50 Brutes: ElecMelee/EA, WM/Elec
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Any speculation on whether or not Follow Up will be changed? I recently got my Claws/SR scrapper to 46 and just love that power. The reason being the whole "Brute+Perma Follow up+Fury". Honestly, I don't think that it's a very good reason to change it at all, but you never know.
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I don't see any reason why Focus would need removed/changed. It really doesn't to a huge amount of damage (burst wise at least), especially in pvp. I think it's a STAPLE power for the Claws set, and shouldn't ever be removed.
In the quotes he is asking about Follow up and you responded about Focus....just thought I'd point that out.
I don't see Follow Up being altered in any way considering Blinding Fient is nearly the exact same power. Only difference betweennt he two is BF's cast time is .37 seconds longer The scrapper version of Follow Up and BF both give 37.5% buff to damage, while Brutes version of BF gives 30%, so the only change I expect is for Brutes Follow Up to also do 30% instead of 37.5%.
Focus and Shockwave on the other I'm a bit more concerned about. I personally don't think they would be any more overpowered on a brute than they are on a scarpper....but I look at the Night Widow set and can't help but worry that Brutes will get a similar version with no range and more damage/higher endurance cost. Sure hope that isn't what happens. Focus and Shockwave are what makes Claws.....[b][i][u]CLAWS
I wouldnt mind having knockdown in Shockwave instead of knockback 
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I wouldnt mind having knockdown in Shockwave instead of knockback
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Oh mighty Castle....lord of the Devs. Please make this so and I shall personally hand deliver 50 virgins to your doorstep.
(disclaimer: all virgins are likely male nerds living with their mother and playing this game)
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I wouldnt mind having knockdown in Shockwave instead of knockback
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Oh mighty Castle....lord of the Devs. Please make this so and I shall personally hand deliver 50 virgins to your doorstep.
(disclaimer: all virgins are likely male nerds living with their mother and playing this game)
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Are you one of them? 
Nope....I'm 31. That would be pretty sad.
KD instead of KB would be pretty awesome though. Please Mr. Castle.
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I wouldnt mind having knockdown in Shockwave instead of knockback
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Oh mighty Castle....lord of the Devs. Please make this so and I shall personally hand deliver 50 virgins to your doorstep.
(disclaimer: all virgins are likely male nerds living with their mother and playing this game)
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Can't...stop...laughing....!!!
youre coming down so something is pushing you that way.
They aint gonna change the animation, not for the time being at least. Unless everything goes well with SS/Ma. And even then if they do it'll still have the same cast time.