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1) I still challenge your premise.
Why do they need to be on a level playing field? really, why not just have 1 AT then?
2) Ignoring team vs. solo, etc. I find no disadvantage in my blaster blame. Different, yes. Disadvantaged? no t by a long shot. And I think, predominately, the general response in the thread concurs with that conclusion.
In short, Blasters are different and that does mean they are unbalanced, need fixing, or anything else - IMO, and in the minds of many others from what I read.
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Just a note blasters aren't actually the damage kings, they are the ranged and aoe damage kings.
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why is my damage not double or triple other ATs?
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So all you really want is to 1-shot even-con minions with Energy Torrent, alone, without Build Up or Aim. Where's the sarcasm font? I think I might need it for this.
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He seems to be saying that if blasters are going to be so weak elsewhere they need their damage increased otherwise give them better mitigation tools.
Just a note blasters aren't actually the damage kings, they are the ranged and aoe damage kings. So yes for an AT to give up so much for damage it should either have it or have more available mitigation.
A small built in ranged defense of about 6% or so not unlike a SOA's CTD, and or access to primary tier 3 or secondary tier 2 while mezzed would go along way towards actual balance.
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Blasters do have mitigation, and lots of it. Except for Fire, but then again that set gives it up for more damage. If you ask me, I think Blasters are fine the way they are.
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I make a habit of soloing mine up, even if in spots solo will be me dual boxing and powerleveling myself. They have problems that other ATs don't have.
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Just a note blasters aren't actually the damage kings, they are the ranged and aoe damage kings.
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3.3 second cast time, 2.2 ? for KO blow and 2.23 ? for Headsplitter.
Headsplitter with crits really blows it away and a brute with even moderate fury kills it.
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Well here are a few that aren't
Brute SS KO blow at the damage cap outdamages any blaster attack at the cap.
Corruptor blizzard at the cap is the single most damaging AOE attack in the game.
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LOL that is so sad. Then again it is a fantasy MMO, it shouldn't be surprising to find this kind of behaviour.
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Well here are a few that aren't
Brute SS KO blow at the damage cap outdamages any blaster attack at the cap.
Corruptor blizzard at the cap is the single most damaging AOE attack in the game.
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Corrupters' blizzard deals more damage than an ice blaster's blizzard?
Brutes I wouldn't put into the equation. Their damage level is fluctuating and starts out much lower.
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Well here are a few that aren't
Brute SS KO blow at the damage cap outdamages any blaster attack at the cap.
Corruptor blizzard at the cap is the single most damaging AOE attack in the game.
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Corrupters' blizzard deals more damage than an ice blaster's blizzard?
Brutes I wouldn't put into the equation. Their damage level is fluctuating and starts out much lower.
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Edit and to clarify I am talking about maximum damage in all cases.
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Well here are a few that aren't
Brute SS KO blow at the damage cap outdamages any blaster attack at the cap.
Corruptor blizzard at the cap is the single most damaging AOE attack in the game.
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those damage capped examples dont count due to the fact they have to be buffed out of their minds to do that, meaning theyre on a team where damage isnt a problem
Also: A blaster at the damage cap still has more damaging tools than a brute IMO due to ranged AoEs and Nukes
(KO blow is only St remember, imagine spreading that damage to a group? 
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Brute SS KO blow at the damage cap outdamages any blaster attack at the cap.
Corruptor blizzard at the cap is the single most damaging AOE attack in the game.
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IOW, Brutes/corruptors WITH enough buffs to hit the damage cap.
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I think the differences are enough to make blasters stand out as damage dealers. For the most part, they do a ton of damage, either close up or from a distance, at a constant pace, over multiple targets. While individual examples may have other builds or archetypes outshining their damage, I think if you'll look at how much damage is dished out during a mission, you'll find Blasters at the top. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. A blaster with a couple of AoE attacks, and who uses those attacks regularly, outputs quite a bit of damage. Scrappers who have a few AoEs can do massive damage too, but blasters don't have to chase down their enemies. When I blast, I pretty much just steadily stream out damage with very very few pauses.
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Overall, not solo vs team or good team vs bad team, but in a truly balanced situation in which all ATs should be on a level playing field
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1) I still challenge your premise.
Why do they need to be on a level playing field? really, why not just have 1 AT then?
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So is that a vote to go back to issue 1?
As far as I understand it the devs are trying to promote balance throughout all ATs to give everyone the opportunity to experience the game at a relative rate teamed or solo no matter what AT they choose
Otherwise, why the tank nerfs? or blaster nerfs? or stalker buffs?
I feel a lot of changes (buffs/nerfs) have been done with that in mind and I feel blasters should be next
And I've stated several times I don't think a damage buff is the answer
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Otherwise, why the tank nerfs? or blaster nerfs? or stalker buffs?
I feel a lot of changes (buffs/nerfs) have been done with that in mind and I feel blasters should be next
And I've stated several times I don't think a damage buff is the answer
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What tanker nerfs are you talking about? GDN?
What Blaster nerfs are you talking about? I only recall a buff with Defiance 2.0 (other than fixing the terribly broken Smoke Grenade, was it? I didn't play a /Dev Blaster back that far).
I don't understand your point.
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Brute SS KO blow at the damage cap outdamages any blaster attack at the cap.
Corruptor blizzard at the cap is the single most damaging AOE attack in the game.
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IOW, Brutes/corruptors WITH enough buffs to hit the damage cap.
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No. A brute only needs a full head of fury to outdo single target, if you toss in rage or their build up powers, buildup, firey embrace , rage, etc they do considerably better.
The corruptor with blizzard will outperform without the buffs as well, if they are something like a /dark with a -res power they do even better.
I am not saying blasters don't do good damage, I am saying we are in general paying an awful lot for our damage considerably more than other ATs do.
The critter caps for one
Also GDN and GED
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So you are counting those as specifically tanker nerfs or blaster nerfs?
ED, at the very least, affected *ALL* ATs, not just blasters and tankers.
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Blasters are broken
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There, you said it now go home. Honestly people, you let this thread go on for over 120 posts and he's only has 36, probably all in this thread. He's a troll, move along.
Those were not AT nerfs, they were game balance changes (good ones). They affected all AT's equally. Controllers got hit the hardest, becuase they had AOE controls doubled in recharge time AND had duration cut in half. The GDN didn't just change tank defenses, it also hit scrappers and pools. The taunt limit wasn't a nerf. It didn't reduce a tanks ability to do anything but taunt more than 5 foes.
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He's a troll, move along
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And you're a traffic cop?
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120 posts and he's only has 36
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And an accountant too?
If people weren't interested in talking about the subject matter in this thread, it would've dropped to the bottom of the pile. Whether or not he is a troll doesnt matter much at this point.
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I fail to see how a General Education Development test is a nerf...Oh wait, you meant Enhancement Diversification...
I fail to see how Enhancement Diversification is a nerf.
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why is my damage not double or triple other ATs?
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So all you really want is to 1-shot even-con minions with Energy Torrent, alone, without Build Up or Aim. Where's the sarcasm font? I think I might need it for this.
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He seems to be saying that if blasters are going to be so weak elsewhere they need their damage increased otherwise give them better mitigation tools.
Just a note blasters aren't actually the damage kings, they are the ranged and aoe damage kings. So yes for an AT to give up so much for damage it should either have it or have more available mitigation.
A small built in ranged defense of about 6% or so not unlike a SOA's CTD, and or access to primary tier 3 or secondary tier 2 while mezzed would go along way towards actual balance.
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Blasters do have mitigation, and lots of it. Except for Fire, but then again that set gives it up for more damage. If you ask me, I think Blasters are fine the way they are.