I would recommend adding a slot. Stamina is most effective with a full three slots of Endurance Modification.
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I would recommend adding a slot. Stamina is most effective with a full three slots of Endurance Modification.
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In addition, you may want to consider swapping out the Common End Mod enhancements for Performance Shifter Set IO pieces to get the Set Bonuses.
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I would recommend adding a slot. Stamina is most effective with a full three slots of Endurance Modification.
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In addition, you may want to consider swapping out the Common End Mod enhancements for Performance Shifter Set IO pieces to get the Set Bonuses.
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Hadn't even thought about that option. Thanks for the quick responses 
Dark, here's Performance Shifter's set bonus list.
I believe procs are only effective when placed in powers that have to be activated. I don't think the chance will ever happen if you place it in Stamina as that is an auto power.
That's why Performance Shifters aren't a big price IO set at the market. They really only work well for powers like Dark Consumption or Speed Boost.
So, don't slot it. It won't do anything and you'll be losing either the +Rec from your Stamina (if you replace a common IO) or an enhancement slot that could be better used somewhere else (if you add an extra slot).
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I believe procs are only effective when placed in powers that have to be activated. I don't think the chance will ever happen if you place it in Stamina as that is an auto power.
[/ QUOTE ]You think wrong. In fact, the Performance Shifter proc is most effective in Stamina and Quick Recovery, and on average, is better than a 3rd endmod enhancement in Stamina.
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Passive powers like Stamina activate every 10 seconds and so the Proc has a chance to add 10 endurance. If you have Stamina 3 slotted over time it is an improvement over having a 3rd level 50 enhancement in one slot. Adding the set EndMod IO will give you a set bonus with no loss of performance.
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No the procs roll every 10 seconds in an always on power so Performance Shifter triggers on average about once every 50 seconds for 10 endurance. I have one slotted in stamina on my corrupter and it's such a nice little boost to endurance.
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Oh, I did not realize this. Thank you.
Why do Performance Shifters not go for higher prices on the market then? Last I checked a Chance for +End was going for 5000 or less. You would think it would cost more if it was so effective.
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Oh, I did not realize this. Thank you.
Why do Performance Shifters not go for higher prices on the market then? Last I checked a Chance for +End was going for 5000 or less. You would think it would cost more if it was so effective.
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Are you talking raw recipe or crafted enhancement? I'm not in game right now, so can't check prices.
However, if it is the recipes going for 5000 or less, it could be due to the fact that the higher level procs (26 and up) will require either a Deific Weapon or Pangean Soil. which would most likely add a couple million or more to the crafting cost.
If it is the crafted enhancements going for 5000 or less, then whoever is selling them that cheap is simply throwing away perfectly good inf that could be used for other things (whether they need to purchase the rare salvage or they have it on hand already. If the latter, they would obviously be better off selling the salvage outright instead of sinking that value into something that will sell for far less.)
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I believe procs are only effective when placed in powers that have to be activated. I don't think the chance will ever happen if you place it in Stamina as that is an auto power.
[/ QUOTE ]You think wrong. In fact, the Performance Shifter proc is most effective in Stamina and Quick Recovery, and on average, is better than a 3rd endmod enhancement in Stamina.
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This. If you're only going to give Stamina 3 slots, then make it 2X Level 50 EndMod and one Performance Shifter +End.
If you can spare a fourth slot, go with the Performance Shifter set and pick up IO bonuses.
Stamina unslotted: 25% Recovery
Stamina +1 lev50 EndMod IO: 35.6% Recovery
Stamina +2 lev50 EndMod IO: 45.8% Recovery
Stamina +3 lev50 EndMod IO: 49.8% Recovery
Stamina +4 lev50 EndMod IO: 51.4% Recovery
The first two EndMods increased Recovery by 10%, the third by only 4%, and the fourth by less than 2%.
The +End proc in Stamina is the equivalent, on average, of 12% extra recovery, so it's just slightly better than the first two level 50 IO and a lot better than the third.
The Perfomance Shifter Set:
EndMod
EndMod/Rech
EndMod/Acc
Chance for +End
gives 47.9% Recovery + the average 12% from the Proc for just about 60% Recovery. Plus you get the IO bonus of another 2.5% Recovery plus 1.87% HP plus 5% movement speed increase.
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Oh, I did not realize this. Thank you.
Why do Performance Shifters not go for higher prices on the market then? Last I checked a Chance for +End was going for 5000 or less. You would think it would cost more if it was so effective.
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Last time I checked everything Performance Shifter +End was going for several million.
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This. If you're only going to give Stamina 3 slots, then make it 2X Level 50 EndMod and one Performance Shifter +End.
If you can spare a fourth slot, go with the Performance Shifter set and pick up IO bonuses.
Stamina unslotted: 25% Recovery
Stamina +1 lev50 EndMod IO: 35.6% Recovery
Stamina +2 lev50 EndMod IO: 45.8% Recovery
Stamina +3 lev50 EndMod IO: 49.8% Recovery
Stamina +4 lev50 EndMod IO: 51.4% Recovery
The first two EndMods increased Recovery by 10%, the third by only 4%, and the fourth by less than 2%.
The +End proc in Stamina is the equivalent, on average, of 12% extra recovery, so it's just slightly better than the first two level 50 IO and a lot better than the third.
The Perfomance Shifter Set:
EndMod
EndMod/Rech
EndMod/Acc
Chance for +End
gives 47.9% Recovery + the average 12% from the Proc for just about 60% Recovery. Plus you get the IO bonus of another 2.5% Recovery plus 1.87% HP plus 5% movement speed increase.
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As someone else pointed out, if going three or four slots in Stamina, one of those may as well be the plain Performance Shifter: Endurance Mod instead of just a generic Endurance Mod. A level 50 PS-END-M is 42.4% (and I think that may bypass ED as well. On top of that, you would then have a 5% speed bonus for all your movement powers due to having 2 Performance Shifters slotted.
3 slot SOs or 3 slot Common IOs?
lvl 50 Common End Mod IOs start hit the low level ED cap at 2 and are within a few percentage points of 3 SOs. 3 Common End Mod IOs would be hit hard by ED. If you only want 3 slots in Stamina and want to maximize End recovery with that, the Performance Shifter: End Mod Set IO and the Chance for +End Proc SetIO, plus a common End Mod IO. You'll get the proc, a movement set bonus and have near triple SO slot recovery.
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I believe procs are only effective when placed in powers that have to be activated. I don't think the chance will ever happen if you place it in Stamina as that is an auto power.
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Rule of thumb for Proc's firing. Proc IOs have a chance to fire upon power activation, and then every 10 seconds afterward the power continues. It doesn't matter what type of power it is. Same rule of thumb for all.
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Oh, I did not realize this. Thank you.
Why do Performance Shifters not go for higher prices on the market then? Last I checked a Chance for +End was going for 5000 or less. You would think it would cost more if it was so effective.
[/ QUOTE ] They used to cost a lot more than they do now. Not sure why the price crashed.
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Oh, I did not realize this. Thank you.
Why do Performance Shifters not go for higher prices on the market then? Last I checked a Chance for +End was going for 5000 or less. You would think it would cost more if it was so effective.
[/ QUOTE ] They used to cost a lot more than they do now. Not sure why the price crashed.
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You can only take stamina once?
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Last time I checked everything Performance Shifter +End was going for several million.
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Last time I checked was about a year ago, and they were in the 25-30 million range. And I don't mean for just the last 5 sales. They stayed in that range consistently for the weeks that I was paying attention.
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Oh, I did not realize this. Thank you.
Why do Performance Shifters not go for higher prices on the market then? Last I checked a Chance for +End was going for 5000 or less. You would think it would cost more if it was so effective.
[/ QUOTE ] They used to cost a lot more than they do now. Not sure why the price crashed.
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I seem to get a lot of these cashing in AE tickets.
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I just paid around 3 mil for mine today. Not sure what OP is talking about, but it sounds like a missed opportunity.
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Oh, I did not realize this. Thank you.
Why do Performance Shifters not go for higher prices on the market then? Last I checked a Chance for +End was going for 5000 or less. You would think it would cost more if it was so effective.
[/ QUOTE ] They used to cost a lot more than they do now. Not sure why the price crashed.
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You can only take stamina once?
[/ QUOTE ]Unless you're one of the cool kids, like me.
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Oh, I did not realize this. Thank you.
Why do Performance Shifters not go for higher prices on the market then? Last I checked a Chance for +End was going for 5000 or less. You would think it would cost more if it was so effective.
[/ QUOTE ] They used to cost a lot more than they do now. Not sure why the price crashed.
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You can only take stamina once?
[/ QUOTE ] Well, twice.. if you include the dual build.. haha
I just received a Performance Shifter: Chance for + Endurance. I currently have 3 slotted stamina. Would I be better off adding a slot for the Performance Shifter, or just replace one of my current slots with it instead?
I have a feeling adding would be better, but I just wanted a 2nd or 3rd or 27th opinion.