New "Targeted AoE" Invention Sets
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Another_Fan,
Posted on: 2009-05-13 10:26 in Suggestions and Ideas
I don't even care if the new sets have decent bonuses (but it would be nice). Just some nice options so you can frankenslot these powers better.
I'd LOVE some new targeted aoe sets. The ability to slot something other than Positron's blast for not-worthless set bonuses would rock. /signed!
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Originally Posted by Riley_Delacroix
I'd LOVE some new targeted aoe sets. The ability to slot something other than Positron's blast for not-worthless set bonuses would rock. /signed!
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Agreed
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Originally Posted by MunkiLord
/signed. IMO it should be next on the list.
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Originally Posted by Sigium
Sounds like a fair proposition.
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Originally Posted by Blackavaar
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by firespray
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This is definitely needed. |
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Originally Posted by Frostweaver
No kidding, I totally agree.
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THIS.NOW.PLEASE.
There is almost no reason to ever use anything but Positron or Ragnarok. I used one set once for the AoE def, but honestly, I probably should have used Positron.
Maybe give us a set with defense bonuses so Castle can freak out a little bit more about stacking defense. That sounds fun to me.
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Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot
Positron's IS Great, but it's the only one that is (okay, excluding Purple & PVP). I used to 5-slot Detonation for it's Range and smidgen of AoE def (until it broke with i15). And Air Burst? Are you kidding? Its picture is in the dictionary under "Lackluster".
 There needs to be more sets, and hopefully with some more recharge. |
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I would not object to being able to slot Devastation: Chance for Hold into Fireball, Fire Breath, and Rain of Fire. |
Originally Posted by konshu
Either that, or merge the ranged attack IO sets with the ranged AoE attack IO sets.
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Those three examples, unfortunately, are most likely prime reasons such a set class merge would not happen.
Bumping again in since it seems the Devs are making so many QOL improvements these days, and another issue is in the planning stages.
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/Signed.
There is pretty much no reason to use TAoE sets than Positron's or Ragnarok because the bonuses for Air Burst and Detonation are not useful for just about anything.
What I'd like to see is a set with stats like Thunderstrike (good Acc/End/Rech, ED capped Dam, but no procs) with approppriate bonuses like +regen and +HP and maybe +Dam.
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Since ranged and TAoEs share all the same enhancement properties, I don't see why the two categories couldn't be merged. SCR notwithstanding, it sounds like less work than implementing new IO sets from scratch. Hell, you could do the same with control/buff/debuff sets; it wouldn't be without precedent, since control-enhancing Hami-Os enhance all control effects of the power they're slotted in.
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Actually this isn't really true. The ongoing concept that these sets are useless from a lot of the player-base makes them very good value indeed for levelling characters. 2 Acc/Dam, 2 Dam/Recharge gives you basically a 40% recharge boost over the traditional 1 acc, 3 damage 4 slot set-up.|
Originally Posted by DSorrow
/Signed.
There is pretty much no reason to use TAoE sets than Positron's or Ragnarok because the bonuses for Air Burst and Detonation are not useful for just about anything. |
The useless set bonuses rather ironically make these sets somewhat useful, since they get disregarded by a lot of the playerbase.
That being said adding a few more Targeted IO sets wouldn't hurt at all either.
Yep, good idea. I'd like to have more to choose from in slotting my Targeted AoEs besides Posi's Blast or.....well, Posi's Blast (because the bonuses for the other two are pretty crappy)
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
Next time the Devs are inclined to throw us some new IO sets, I nominate this category for a couple. I think it's time.
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Always in favor of more options.
I'm still waiting for a purple Slow set (especially if it gives a 10% global recharge bonus). Slow only has 4 set to choose from
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Having just bought 9 sets of Positrons recently, hell yeah!
Posi's one of those "Great set bonuses, rubbish power values" sets, since its packing capped damage, 40% Acc and End redux, and a measly 22% recharge for the 5 non-proc pieces.
It would be interesting to have a set like Thunderstrike/Crushing Impact/Multistrike that gave capped damage and 65% Acc/End redux/Recharge.
What set bonuses should it have, though?
Recharge should be out, to leave Posi's as the valid choice for the Recharge builder.
+Health, +Regen are good possibilites. Maybe a modest defence bonus like +2.5% Melee Defence, or even a dual Defence in slots 5 and 6 like +1.25% AoE, +1.25% Melee for a cheap all-yellow set. All of that at once might be a bit too defense heavy.
That would introduce an element of choice thats currently lacking, to replace the "Grunt, Positron's again" default choice we currently have.
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I only find Positron and the Purple set to be worth using, and even then, I'd like to see a set I like more.
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Originally Posted by DrMike2000
Posi's one of those "Great set bonuses, rubbish power values" sets, since its packing capped damage, 40% Acc and End redux, and a measly 22% recharge for the 5 non-proc pieces..
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Actually this isn't really true. The ongoing concept that these sets are useless from a lot of the player-base makes them very good value indeed for levelling characters. 2 Acc/Dam, 2 Dam/Recharge gives you basically a 40% recharge boost over the traditional 1 acc, 3 damage 4 slot set-up.
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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I thought Air Burst was under "Vendor Trash". We must have different editions of that dictionary. |
Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot
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Lackluster? Positron's Blast has accuracy, recharge and recovery bonuses, along with a damage proc. Admittedly that is the only one set out of the 3 non-purple/non-PvP sets that has decent bonuses. [/ QUOTE ] Positron's IS Great, but it's the only one that is (okay, excluding Purple & PVP). I used to 5-slot Detonation for it's Range and smidgen of AoE def (until it broke with i15). And Air Burst? Are you kidding? Its picture is in the dictionary under "Lackluster". There needs to be more sets, and hopefully with some more recharge. |
You all keep putting your Air Bursts on the market for 50 inf, I'll keep frankenslotting them cheaply and effectively.
I wouldn't mind seeing some new sets, especially ones with useful bonuses, just as long as it doesn't detract from more important things like new powersets, new missions, etc. Though with the incarnate slots being in place of IO sets, I don't see why the devs would want to add any more sets until the incarnate stuff is complete.
Bump.
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Ye dark gods, yes! It's especially silly considering we have all of FIVE snipe sets. Snipe sets that all stretch the span to level 50 no less!
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Originally Posted by reiella
Until I see something that states to the contrary, going to assume VK is right
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This thread's old, and is not being bumped with anything of substance. If you have anything constructive to add to the suggestion, please create a new thread for it.
I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request.... err, wait.... no, that's not right...
Yes. /Signed
While we're at it, we could use more sets for all of the recently added Accurate ______ IO sets (Healing, ToHit Debuff, Defense Debuff, etc.)
Those only have 2 sets each (1 low level 1 high level).