knockback IO's???


Aett_Thorn

 

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hi i am posting this in regards to knockback io's. i have a fire / fire tanker and i was wondering. i was hearing a lot about getting acrobatics, but i hear that it might be a power waste and a knock back io could take the place of this? were would i out this 1 knockback io? in which power?
thanks


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temperature protection is a good place to have 3 slots. you can put in the whole steadfast set there. you can also grab a karma: kb io and put it in combat jumping thus bringin your kb protection up to 8 points.


 

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You will want to get either:
Karma -KB Protection -> into a defense power like Combat Jumping
Steadfast Protection -KB Protection into a damage resistance power like Fire Shield
or possibly the Travel power one


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There are two IOs that grant KB protection. THe one you'll want most, probably, is the Steadfast Protection -KB IO. Put it into one of your main shields. OR, if you have Combat Jumping, look for the Karma (IIRC) -KB IO.

Also, if you have a KB attack, you can slot the Kinetic Crash set and get some extra -KB protection there.


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even with one of the three IOs (only giving 4 points of KB protection), you'll notice a huge difference

fooling around in RV, a dominator summoned ice slick under my feet, I wasn't KB'd once while the ice slick was down, and I only have the steadfast protection IO right now


 

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The Blessing of the Zephyr set (for a travel power) also provides 4 points of KB protection.

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In other words... ZING! Aett is wrong! :P


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Aett is never wrong, but does occasionally leave scraps for the rest of us.

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Ah, but he clearly said "There are two IOs that give -KB" when there are clearly three.


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Aett is never wrong, but does occasionally leave scraps for the rest of us.

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Ah, but he clearly said "There are two IOs that give -KB" when there are clearly three.

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Two IOs...more than two SETS. Big difference. Never gave a definitive number of sets.


Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus

 

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Aett is never wrong, but does occasionally leave scraps for the rest of us.

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Ah, but he clearly said "There are two IOs that give -KB" when there are clearly three.

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Two IOs...more than two SETS. Big difference. Never gave a definitive number of sets.

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Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Protection (4 Points) Global: this enhancement functions like a set bonus..

Aett is still wrong.


 

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Aett is never wrong, but does occasionally leave scraps for the rest of us.

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Ah, but he clearly said "There are two IOs that give -KB" when there are clearly three.

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Two IOs...more than two SETS. Big difference. Never gave a definitive number of sets.

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Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Protection (4 Points) Global: this enhancement functions like a set bonus..

Aett is still wrong.

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Blast! Damn you all!!! I would have gotten away with it, too. If it wasn't for those darned kids and their dog.


Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus

 

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Aett is never wrong, but does occasionally leave scraps for the rest of us.

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Ah, but he clearly said "There are two IOs that give -KB" when there are clearly three.

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Two IOs...more than two SETS. Big difference. Never gave a definitive number of sets.

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But there are THREE IOs. So something like four sets total when counting the one with the (3 or 4) Setbonus.

Blessing of the Zephyr


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Aett is never wrong, but does occasionally leave scraps for the rest of us.

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Ah, but he clearly said "There are two IOs that give -KB" when there are clearly three.

[/ QUOTE ]

Two IOs...more than two SETS. Big difference. Never gave a definitive number of sets.

[/ QUOTE ]

Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Protection (4 Points) Global: this enhancement functions like a set bonus..

Aett is still wrong.

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Blast! Damn you all!!! I would have gotten away with it, too. If it wasn't for those darned kids and their dog.

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Actually, through passive-resistant means, the dog was trying to help you.


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fooling around in RV, a dominator summoned ice slick under my feet, I wasn't KB'd once while the ice slick was down, and I only have the steadfast protection IO right now


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To be fair, Ice Slick is a knockdown power so the magnitude of the KB is less than one.

Still, even a single IO will make a large impact on your character's performance.


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Aett_Thorn: Blast! Damn you all!!! I would have gotten away with it, too. If it wasn't for those darned kids and their dog.

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For the show not mentioned, I believe the adjective most often used was "pesky."

-Johnny


 

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Aett_Thorn: Blast! Damn you all!!! I would have gotten away with it, too. If it wasn't for those darned kids and their dog.

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For the show not mentioned, I believe the adjective most often used was "pesky."

-Johnny

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Aett is starting to "Go Rogue" with the advice methinks.


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Ah but Aett you were not wrong if there are 3 sets or IO's with -kb there are most certainly 2 ... Don't believe you said there were ONLY 2.


 

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I said "there are two IOs that..." For most people, they would assume that that meant there were only two IOs that provide KB protection. I'm okay with admitting I forgot about the Zephyr one.


Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus

 

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Dang. Wrong twice in one thread. The Forum Cartel is never going to let me live this down. I mean...uhhh...there is no Forum Cartel....yeah. Nothing to see here folks! Nothing to see! Move along!

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Aett has been sacked.

~FC


 

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Dang. Wrong twice in one thread. The Forum Cartel is never going to let me live this down. I mean...uhhh...there is no Forum Cartel....yeah. Nothing to see here folks! Nothing to see! Move along!

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Aett has been sacked.

~FC

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Haha...I survived!

<We apologize again for the fault in this
posting. Those responsible for sacking
the people who have just been sacked,
have been sacked.>

damn...


Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus

 

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How do these sets work on Masterminds with bubbles? Is there a way to give pets KB protection?


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No, they do not affect pets. The only way to give pets KB protection would be to team with a Kinetics with ID, or drop a breakfree on them (IIRC.)


 

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Yeah I was curious to see how "Karma: Knockback Protection"would work on the protector bots.


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