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Remove "god" from the AE banned words list.

AkuTenshiiZero

By AkuTenshiiZero,
Posted on: 2009-04-18 13:53 in Suggestions and Ideas

 

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I would like to suggest that the word "God" be allowed in Architect Missions. This game is very centered around different theologies for some very important parts of the back story.

For example

The Banished Pantheon
Circle of Thorns
Rularuu and all the fragments of him.

To name a few. We also have very strong connections to Roman and Greek theology as part of the primary storyline.

Not being able to use the word "god" in reference to these limits our ability to write stories that tie into the CoH storyline. My example is in writing a story based on the Reflections from the Shadow Shard. I wanted to call them the "Dreams of a god", but was not allowed to for obvious reasons.

 

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You take the good with the bad, I guess. If you free up the word "God" for the Mission Architect, there will be those who use it as blasphemy (which doesn't bother me, being non-religious) and those who use it respectfully.

Me, I'd rather have more tools than fewer, even if other people don't know how to use them.

 

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Romulus Augustus likens himself to a god. Our custom characters ought to be able to do the same thing.


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culturally sensetive.

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they'll get over it, and if they dont who cares

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BTW.


What gives certain religions or groups the right to make the word "god" a proper noun, and thus, cause it to be reserved?

If I proclaim "deliveryman" to be a proper noun for my diety and tell NCSoft that I am offended by my diety's name being used all willy-nilly around MA arcs, they will no doubt tell me to buzz off.

So why, might I ask, that a reservation be placed on a word that in terms of state does not belong to any religion?

 

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BTW.


What gives certain religions or groups the right to make the word "god" a proper noun, and thus, cause it to be reserved?

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Are you implying that the Pope called up NCSoft and asked them to censor it, or something?

 

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I had no idea "god" was censored. That is about the dumbest thing I have every heard.

First off, I was raised Christian, and I think censoring "god" is offensive.

Also, compare these two phrases. A villian, drunk with power, stands before the hero and declares...

"I have become a GOD!"
...But instead he must say...
"I have become a DEITY!"
...Yeah, lacks the punch the first line has.

How about established comic characters? How many times has "god" been said by Thor? Even Statesman and Recluse gain their power from gods! Seriously, dumbest censorship ever.

Besides, I think censoring arcs is a dumb idea to begin with. It should be dependant on the player's Profanity Filter setting. We should be free to curse, and let others decide what they want to see or not, just like we already do in chat.

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The mysterious Djinn...Emerald Dervish (50+1 DB/DA Magic Stalker)
The psychotic inventor...Dollmaster (50 Bot/FF Tech Mastermind)

Virtue Forever.

 

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BTW.


What gives certain religions or groups the right to make the word "god" a proper noun, and thus, cause it to be reserved?

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Are you implying that the Pope called up NCSoft and asked them to censor it, or something?

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I'm having fun visualizing this.

 

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Not being able to use the word "god" in reference to these limits our ability to write stories that tie into the CoH storyline.

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Too bad?

You do not have the right to offend those who believe that using the word in this situation is blasphemy any more that you have the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater.



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Not being able to use the word "god" in reference to these limits our ability to write stories that tie into the CoH storyline.

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Too bad?

You do not have the right to offend those who believe that using the word in this situation is blasphemy any more that you have the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater.

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If I'm talking about Zeus, and mention that he's a god of the Greek pantheon, the same god known as Jupiter to the Romans, descended through various twists and turns from a weather god in the Slavic or Russian steppes, the same phenomena that have inspired the creation of other gods in other mythologies...

Have I just blasphemed *anything* four times? No. I have used a reference to a mythological construct known as a deity or a god. (Look, I said it again.) What if I talk about El? Guess what. I've just used a very old name of *one* of the gods that over the millenia has been combined into the Judeo-Christian deity. Have I blasphemed anything? Yet I can't write that in game. I can't mention that, in *game canon,* the BP are trying to wake a god that's sleeping under Moth Cemetery.

God is a label. God is a "rank," of sorts. Capitalized, it's showing nothing more in the last two uses than that it's the beginning of a sentence. Censoring it is silly and, yes, restrictive in a game that features multiple gods (look, I said it again!) - including an attempt to bind a god (again!,) wake a sleeping god (oooh!) and devour a god or three (get the stones!) It's as silly as censoring the word "Body." "If he's dead, find the [censored] bag they put him in." "We ran across the suspect's library. He's written quite a [censored] of work." "The letter was a mess. The greeting was fine, but the [censored] was a mass of paranoid delusional rantings." Think that might be restrictive?

Why should those who believe that using that three letter word is "blasphemy" in any context (as none of the examples, even though they're perfectly legitimate, take anything "in vain") have so much say in this non-religious, international context?

Calash's examples, given that's who you were showing as replying to, as well as quoting, were roughly as blasphemous, insulting or offensive as the word "Cheese."

 

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I'm glad you find it offensive that it's censored.

Now take it up with the Networks. NBC ABC CBS. Why do they censor the word 'God'

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I've seen God used on TV Y7 Nickelodeon kids shows. It's generally fine if used like "Oh My God!"

 

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My religion finds it offensive for people to use "The" in vain.

Censor plz.

 

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God will probably get taken out of the censor.

Considering an NPC already uses it in game, I see no logical reason to ban players from using it.

 

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NPCs already use their lords name in vein. Just not player made ones.

 

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Also, God has been used on network TV many times, even in recent programming.

God as a word has the capability to be used tastefully and in good context. If it isn't, there's a report for content button right there. I see no reason to remove it from the MA when it's in game already.

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Not being able to use the word "god" in reference to these limits our ability to write stories that tie into the CoH storyline.

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Too bad?

You do not have the right to offend those who believe that using the word in this situation is blasphemy any more that you have the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater.

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That is a ridiculous comparison. One of which is an extremely dangerous act that could get people killed by trampling. The other is an affront to some people's sensibilities... nothing more.

Come back to the argument when you have something valid to add.

OT: I have never thought that words in and of themselves should be censored, banned or offensive. This is pointless. It teaches people ways that one can hurt people if they want to, and it also demonizes language. It is utterly ridiculous.