Given it's a toggle, yeah, a prompt would work better than the (also often suggested) "cancel buff" bit. I know it irritated the heck out of my Stalker who'd have her AS interrupted by a teammate with this on (Bots MM) and suddenly find I'm flying... with lower acc. Or my Earth controller who suddenly couldn't use the various "Must be on the ground" powers.
Good idea. Group fly has to be one of the more annoying involuntary buffs.
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-acc does suck which for a toggle that cost 2 end per second is also not a positive. Perhaps that should be changed to something beneficial as well. Any suggestions?
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Good idea. Group fly is the most annoying involuntary buff.
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Good idea. Group fly is the most annoying involuntary team debuff.
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'Cause that's what it does, really.
While we're talking about it - Fix it so that the folks with you fly at the same speed. Last I recalled, unless someone else took the lead and the GFly holder had them on follow, everyone else would slowly fall behind, then out of the bubble and fall.
More like Group Up Skirt `_´
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More like Group Up Skirt `_´
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Suddenly, Group Fly seems more desirable.
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Group fly is just one of those powers that will just never get any love. It makes me sad 
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While we're talking about it - Fix it so that the folks with you fly at the same speed. Last I recalled, unless someone else took the lead and the GFly holder had them on follow, everyone else would slowly fall behind, then out of the bubble and fall.
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This. I despise Group Fly. Make it a prompt power, take off the debuff, and increase the base flight speed to be significantly faster than the "caster" (you may move faster, but what does that matter when you can only fly for 2 secs when you leave him/her behind?).
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Group fly is just one of those powers that will just never get any love. It makes me sad
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Well, it won't. That is true. Probably because it only takes one experience with some ninnyhammer who refuses to turn it off, to really sour one on the power.
It still boggles my mind why Group Fly is SO CRAPPY. What does it do that benefits the team, anyway? It gives them sluggish, slow Fly. Is that really worth that kind of endurance cost and that kind of debuff and that kind of outright grief when half your powers require you to be on the ground?
I'd say nuke both Group Fly and Group Teleport from orbit and rewrite them.
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At least Group Teleport can be useful. And doesn't debuff your allies. And drops you to the ground after 2 seconds so you're not prevented from using ground-only powers.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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I'd say nuke both Group Fly and Group Teleport from orbit and rewrite them.
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I'd like Group Teleport a zillion times more if it was reconfigured to be Team Recall (i.e., "Assemble the Team").
As for Group Fly, I can think of one place to use it, and that is if you are a MM in some of the multilevel rooms in the CoT maps. Yes, you'll lose acc and you'll have an end drain, but at least you won't have your pets falling off the pathways.
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I'd like Group Teleport a zillion times more if it was reconfigured to be Team Recall (i.e., "Assemble the Team").
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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I'd like Group Teleport a zillion times more if it was reconfigured to be Team Recall (i.e., "Assemble the Team").
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You've apparently never seen TTP used properly.
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Which, in itself, might suggest something isn't quite right with it. I, for one, have never seen Team Teleport used... Ever. And I'm not joking.
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I'd like Group Teleport a zillion times more if it was reconfigured to be Team Recall (i.e., "Assemble the Team").
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You've apparently never seen TTP used properly.
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Which, in itself, might suggest something isn't quite right with it. I, for one, have never seen Team Teleport used... Ever. And I'm not joking.
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It's not a common power by any means, but it does have use.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
I would love to sign it, but I don't know too many people that even take this power. In my 4 years of playing I have only seen this power used once, and that was in the hollows, this one guy was nice enough to transport a group of lowbies to their mish.
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I've actually used Team TP to great effect as an Empath Defender.
Shocking, I know!
This was WAAAAAAAAAAY back before the aggro cap was instituted, and our tanker had bitten off more than he could chew. Even with me slapping him with Absorb Pain, Healing Aura, and Heal Other I couldn't keep him on his feet. He wiped and the team (mostly scrappers) were trying to disperse the aggro. I popped my rez on him, turns the camera a full 180, then Team TPed EVERYONE back to get some breathing room. He rezzed behind the enemy and regathered the aggro while I focused on keeping the scrappers alive.
Worked out -really- well that he had 'Prompt TP' turned on.
That, sadly, was the ONLY time I -ever- found it useful...
I would much rather see a 'combat teleport' power which has MUCH shorter range, no interrupt, super-fast animation, and no hover. Something like Shield Charge or Lightning Rod without the damage pet and a faster animation.
Group fly on the other hand... I don't know what SHOULD replace it, or even what I'd like to see there but... Pleh. I just really don't like the power and have never (and will never) take it.
-Rachel-
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And really, "Make rest of the team a ham sandwich" would be just as good of a power. Probably better, really.
Group Fly is probably my least favourite power and is abused about as much as it's used to good use, in my experience. Well, 'trying to put it to good use' anyway.
This one is so good it should be a no brainer. Prompt for group fly. There's nothing wrong with a power that can give a whole team a vertical travel but just like teleport it deserves it's own prompt.