Changing the name won't change the reasoning for not allowing that.
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;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Why not allow it?
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We are not allowed to have short or single word responses such as "No" anymore, since the recent mod crackdown on this (which I actually think is the second such crackdown, if I remember correctly). Though even though this suggestion only really deserves a simple "No", I'm going to have to ramble on like this in order to make it a valid reply.
I just simply think this idea is really, really bad. However, I want this reply to be somewhat constructive, so I'll go ahead and give some advice/feedback. The forums have a cool new feature called the "search" function. It's located near the top of the screen, so you may have to scroll up a bit to see it. I suggest you click on it and familiarize yourself with it's uses. It can save you a lot of time if used properly!
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We are not allowed to have short or single word responses such as "No" anymore, since the recent mod crackdown on this (which I actually think is the second such crackdown, if I remember correctly). Though even though this suggestion only really deserves a simple "No", I'm going to have to ramble on like this in order to make it a valid reply.
I just simply think this idea is really, really bad. However, I want this reply to be somewhat constructive, so I'll go ahead and give some advice/feedback. The forums have a cool new feature called the "search" function. It's located near the top of the screen, so you may have to scroll up a bit to see it. I suggest you click on it and familiarize yourself with it's uses. It can save you a lot of time if used properly!
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IIRC, there is also a stickied thread in this same S&I forum to aid folks in how to use said "Search" function.
Ah, yes, here it is:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....e=0&fpart=1
/unsigned as to the OP
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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
"You gave us a world where we could fly. I can't thank you enough for that."
/unsigned
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/jpowerranger
Does this count as just a "no"? Oh wait, please use the search feature. Search for posts that occur on Wednesday and you should find this topic quite a bit.
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Change email to mail system so I can mail my other toons:
Influence/infamy - No.
Salvage - No.
Enhancements - No.
Thanks, but no thanks.
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There, all fixed now.
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Change email to mail system so I can mail my other toons:
Influence/infamy
Salvage
Enhancements
Thanks,
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/signed. Actually, hell yes to your idea. Me having to jump through less hoops to transfer influence and etc. from one of my characters to another does not hurt anybody in anyway, so I see no good reason not to allow it(and one sure as hell hasn't been given in this thread). This feature should have been added last year.
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[/ QUOTE ] You failed. All you said was, "no, use search." Granted, those weren't your exact words, but the substance of your post was equivalent to that. You didn't actually give a reason, why is it a really, really bad idea? Other than your post not being against the forum rules because you added a bunch of words to it, how was it any different then saying, "no, use search."
How exactly is that constructive?
Technically it would be constructive in informing the OP of a way to get information on this subject themselves instead of rehashing all the same old stuff. Sort of a 'I don't have the time/inclination/etc to hunt it down, but it's there and here are the tools to find it yourself' type deal. With the knowledge that there's already a large thread or 8, it should be easier to find.
With that being said... /unsigned.
I'm assuming the other threads have better points than I'm about to make, but for me personally... while it would make a lot of things easier for the players, I can also see how it would make things easier for the... you know, RMTers. I support restricting ingame e-mail more than it is now, not giving it more features.
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I'm tired of getting items I can use on one of my 50s as a random drop on a different 50.
Check out the Repeat Offenders network of SGs! You'll be glad you did.
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while it would make a lot of things easier for the players, I can also see how it would make things easier for the... you know, RMTers.
[/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry, but that is a horrid argument. The players are a higher priority than RMTers. Besides, the suggestion wouldn't allow them to do anything they couldn't do now. Or if you're that worried about it, restrict sendint items/influence/etc to the same account.
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I support restricting ingame e-mail more than it is now, not giving it more features.
[/ QUOTE ] Adding optional filters would be a feature that you could use to restrict emails you receive.
See, it would be the best of both worlds.
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Change email to mail system so I can mail my other toons:
Influence/infamy
Salvage
Enhancements
Thanks,
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/signed. Actually, hell yes to your idea. Me having to jump through less hoops to transfer influence and etc. from one of my characters to another does not hurt anybody in anyway, so I see no good reason not to allow it(and one sure as hell hasn't been given in this thread). This feature should have been added last year.
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Well, then I take it if I had a solution that was even easier, AND had a broader base of access, you would be in favor of it right?
So then free enhancements???
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I'm tired of getting items I can use on one of my 50s as a random drop on a different 50.
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But I bet you don't complain when you want something on the CH and are able to get it right? Imagine what happens if you no longer have to sell any items on the CH, you can simply pass them off on to bag'o holding characters with ease. Some people already complain the BM is too influid.
Whats more, what about all those times you got a drop you could use on some other character, but instead decided to sell on the market (for whatever reason). That earned you some inf you eventually used on that character right? So ultimately, even if you got a drop you couldn't use, you converted it into inf you could. There are no useless drops.
Someone needs to make one of those cut-n-paste replies to this "mail items to myself" redundancy.
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Someone needs to make one of those cut-n-paste replies to this "mail items to myself" redundancy.
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I was just thinking the same thing. All I got that applies here is this.
Pardon me if I quote Pax:
In an effort to convey a simple and direct response consisting primarily of the sentiment expressed in the word no, and in the honest belief that such a term is not intrinsically rude or insulting, while nonetheless avoiding the sting of moderation due to the policies outlined by Ex Libris while concurrently avoiding further elaboration upon the aforementioned simple response, the author has shamelessly endeavored to construct a post of artificially ludicrous length yet, he sincerely hopes, undeniably civil and even apologetic tone.
Sadly, the author has been placed in the unfortunate position of crafting a meandering and nearly devoid-of-meaning message due to the misperception, by some, that responding to topics in certain allegedly-more-important sections of these forums with an unadorned no constitutes, in some unfathomable to the author form, a direct and inexcusable attack on the originator of that topic, and indeed, upon the processes of conversation and discussion themselves. From whence this mystical power to stop all discourse arises, the author is sadly ignorant, for it seems to hold no such power in his experience and observation; indeed, it seems innately to promt a renewal of that discourse, in the form of another single and unadorned word: "why?"
In the meantime, the author wishes to renew his apologies for wasting so much of his readers' time in this probably all too vain and futile effort, with the observation that should you the reader have continued perusing these words to this point, it seems an inescapable conclusion that some modicum of entertainment value has been derived from them. Perhaps, if this is indeed the case, it would be advisable for the reader to seek a more fulfilling and engaging form of entertainment - for which, the author would humbly beg the privilege of recommending that the reader actually log onto the City of Heroes/Villains(TM) game servers for an hour or more; such an activity would certainly provide a more enriching and pleasing diversion for him or her (should the reader so elect, they may insert the gender-designative term of their preference here, as the author does not wish to give offense on any grounds aside from the unnaturally drawn-out length of this post).
*sigh*
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Someone needs to make one of those cut-n-paste replies to this "mail items to myself" redundancy.
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I wrote this article for the Scoop, that count?
This is the sixth in a series of point-counterpoint articles, which will review commonly requested player suggestions, and review the pros and cons of those suggestions.
This weeks subject Inf transfers
POINT:
There are certain advantages to increasing the ease with which players can transfer inf and items between characters on their accounts. The biggest is probably that players that want to do transfers would be able to avoid the complication of finding someone to help them, and the ensuing risk associated with such transactions. It would also mean that the Consignment House would not be used for such transfers, and the possibility of having those transactions intercepted by others is avoided. Since players already go through the process even with such complications, removing those complications seems like a positive change. With the addition of inventions, many players will find that the salvage they need for a recipe on character X exists in storage on character Y. Being able to trade between these two characters avoids the need to use the Consignment House, which does not provide a sure way to get a recipe or salvage from one character to another. If you view all your characters as a collective time investment, then what one character does should not be limited to just that character. Popular suggestions are the ability to send items via an e-mail system, or using the CH to send items, or a bank which contains the total inf earned by account, from which any character on the account may draw for use in purchases.
COUNTERPOINT:
But there are also certain disadvantages associated with increasing the ease with which players can transfer inf and items between characters on their accounts. There would be an unavoidable amount of time spent on coding such a change. In addition, the ability to circumvent the CH may not be intended by the devs. Indeed, a warning when the CH first launched suggested players should not try to use the CH for transfers. Allowing players to utilize the items they obtain on any character may significantly reduce the use of the CH, which may also not be desirable. Most importantly, transferring items to other characters on your account might allow those characters to outperform characters of an equal level but who have not received transfers. If that happens, it would become more difficult to generate content for players that is both challenging for assisted characters, while still beatable for those characters that have not been assisted. Game changes have already been done to limit the ability of characters that were outperforming dev expectations.
The use of the Consignment House for the trading of items between all characters on a side helps build community, while helping to insure all players have access to all items they may wish to obtain. Instead of trading directly between characters, consider using the CH as intended, where in character X puts an item on the CH for anyone who wants it to be able to bid on, while character Y can put a bid in on said item. In this way, all players can access these items, not just those who have other characters on their account.
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Change email to mail system so I can mail my other toons:
Influence/infamy
Salvage
Enhancements
Thanks,
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/signed. Actually, hell yes to your idea. Me having to jump through less hoops to transfer influence and etc. from one of my characters to another does not hurt anybody in anyway, so I see no good reason not to allow it(and one sure as hell hasn't been given in this thread). This feature should have been added last year.
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Well, then I take it if I had a solution that was even easier, AND had a broader base of access, you would be in favor of it right?
So then free enhancements???
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Maybe because if the stuff is free there's no need to "Mail" it to another character on your account.
The character can just pick up what it needs at the free enhancement welfare office and slot it.
I don't think Bowfling was suggesting free IO sets and stuff like that(though I could be wrong), I think he is talking about TO, DO, and SOs. While I have no data to back this up, I don't think the normal enhancements are what people are wanting to mail to their alts.
Actually, Munki, it was a matter of Sarcasm.
'Hey! Let's go to a -further- extreme for comedic effect!'
That you failed to grasp it makes it far more comedic.
Mailing System for items and influence: Please No.
-Rachel-
Looks like I lose this one 
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I don't think Bowfling was suggesting free IO sets and stuff like that(though I could be wrong), I think he is talking about TO, DO, and SOs. While I have no data to back this up, I don't think the normal enhancements are what people are wanting to mail to their alts.
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Nope, I am talking about all enhancements. There is no reason to differentiate set ones from regular ones.
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Actually, Munki, it was a matter of Sarcasm.
'Hey! Let's go to a -further- extreme for comedic effect!'
That you failed to grasp it makes it far more comedic.
Mailing System for items and influence: Please No.
-Rachel-
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Not comedic, but for debating purposes really.
If it is simply easier to select from a drop down menu whatever enhancement you like, rather then have to trade one from one character to another. It can be said that, on this limited basis, my option is clearly better, as everyone can benefit rather then only some(those that have something they wish to transfer), and less effort is required to initiate the action(pick item and plug in vs. pick item, select transfer, send item, load other character, get item, plug in).
I fully suspect that plenty of people would disagree that this is a better option overall, and it is that discussion that merits consideration. Although I will confess that as others have pointed out, this subject has come up so often, that I have had this discussion before, just maybe not with the poster(s) in this thread.
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Most importantly, transferring items to other characters on your account might allow those characters to outperform characters of an equal level but who have not received transfers. If that happens, it would become more difficult to generate content for players that is both challenging for assisted characters, while still beatable for those characters that have not been assisted. Game changes have already been done to limit the ability of characters that were outperforming dev expectations.
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If the above is really the "most important" reason not to implement the change, then I would say the argument against the change is very weak. As mentioned, players already have the ability to move items from one character to another character. It's just inconvenient, moreso for some than others. Players with more in-game "friends" have an easier time than the lone wolf type player when it comes to these types of transfers.
Anyway, I'm all for the ability to quickly and easily move inf/salvage/recipes/enhancements from one character to another on the same account. Whether it's via email or an "Account Bank" or whatever doesn't matter.
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I also think this is a far cry from making enhancements free...
Change email to mail system so I can mail my other toons:
Influence/infamy
Salvage
Enhancements
Thanks,
Good Luck and Good Hunting,
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