Kheldian Issue January 2009 post issue 13

I'm a Lv50 TriFormPB and in the Umbra Illuminati, an Infinity All Kheldian SG, we still see Lv50 TriFormPB's. At least on a weekly basis.

Might be a US/EU thing, plus Kheldians are so rare it is hard to judge properly.

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Something I don't think I saw mentioned in here:

Now that black dwarf mire is on a 20 second recharge, the fact that it doesn't have a taunt effect has become really annoying. White dwarf flare gets a taunt, but not black dwarf mire. It makes it really hard to actually hold aggro on more than 6 targets at once (5 from taunt, 1 from hitting him). It didn't make much sense to give it a taunt when it took 2 minutes to come back, but it's beyond me why it didn't get one now that it's effectively the black dwarf's AoE attack. I'm getting tired of jumping into a group, taunting, and then having 2/3rds of them peel off as soon as anyone tosses an AoE.

Quite frankly, I'm too damned tired of the complaints to follow this entire thread, but here's my two cents.

Complaining about "no mez protection" for a kheldian is rather unfair. Blasters don't have Mez protection without sets, nor do Defenders or Controllers. Yes, you're a HEAT, but really you're asking for something other sets don't get and do quite well without, when devoted to their 'job', so to speak.

that being said, however, brings up my complaint about Kheldians in general. Compared to the VEAT's, they have a much rougher feel. A widow or soldier can 'evolve' into a unique role as they develop, giving them a feel I think Kheldians lack. As said somewhere above in the thread, Warshades have a unique feel based on their abilities. Peacebringers, however, are -- Dwarf and nova-wise, at least - - 'shiny' versions of the Warshade. Human form wise. WS are distinctly different even from other hero AT's. PB's however, are reminiscent of an Energy/energy blaster without half the powers, and given mediocre shields in compensation.

I think the problem with PB's isn't a need for mez protection in human form. It's a need for a distinctive role. I have a lvl 50 full human PB which I like, and am disappointed by simultaneously. He can solo missions and team well, but - - as said before -- the heavy KB gets in the way on teams. However, he also doesn't round out in any one area -- mid-lines at best. I don't have 3 VIABLE blasts to make a ranged attack chain, don't have 3 melee attacks to make a melee attack chain, and I don't have sufficient defense or resistance to be viable as a 'tanker'. My heal is on par with O2 boost, with half the range, and the 'pet' power is not even close to equal to the WS pet.

What human PB's need, IMO, isn't mez protection. It's identity. It needs something it can do that is unique to itself Perhaps a pet that's not a bomb, but a mini Amy Johnson. Perhaps it's a control power such as Blind, or an additional melee attack. But we need to think about the flavor of the AT, and give it something that makes it stand out as different.

And as a parting shot. How about Ancillary Access for Kheldians? VEATS get it. but Khelds don't and that's not fair.

No, human-form needs a basic amount of Mezz Protection. Their human inheirent is built around mezz protection, but it's uselessly small.

I *hate* having to take Dwarf form. It went totally against my human-form concept on one of my characters. Mutually exclusive powers are 'not fun'.

Still here, even after all this time!

So, basically negating all Mez throughout the game?

Having actually got a Warshade up to level 34 now, I can safely say; they dont need Mez protection in human form. A friend of mine has gone human form too, and he copes perfectly without it. I went triform, and never looked back.

What DOES need changing is the shapeshifting. It takes way too long to animate. At least it doesnt root. Other than that, they are pretty much WAI.

And holy Necro-post, Batman!

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.