Discussion: Massively.com on Issue 13 Powersets
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Posted on: 2008-10-17 18:54 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
Its good to know my vote for shields went to good use.
Heh, they wanted to break out the whips and chains for Pain Domination... awesome =P
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We proceeded to design out the set based on the theme of "Controlling, giving and taking away pain." It would have been very easy to cross the ESRB Teen rating with such a thing, so we were very careful to ensure that nothing crossed the line, despite the thematic temptations.
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Empasis mine.
Ah. And suddenly the reason why we haven't seen whips 'n chains for Dominators comes out.
I have to wonder if the conversation went something like:
"Now how, exactly, do we manage this without it seeming like we're encouraging players to make BDSM-themed characters?"
My guess is that if we ever do see whip melee, it'll likely be accompanied by lots of archaeology or vampire-slayer imagery.
However, that still leaves lots of room open for possible whip assault, whip manipulation, and whip melee powersets. I suspect that chain control, rope control, or other bondage-themed powersets are right out.
Maybe it's just me, but when Pinhead rips people apart with his chains, it doesn't strike me as the least bit sexual. Despite the obvious influence of the Cenobites being BDSM.
Wonder Woman, poster child of bondage, is straight out of the Comics Code era.
Strange that in a game where you can shoot people and set them on fire, among various other things, simply tying them up would be so verboten.
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Maybe it's just me, but when Pinhead rips people apart with his chains, it doesn't strike me as the least bit sexual. Despite the obvious influence of the Cenobites being BDSM.
Wonder Woman, poster child of bondage, is straight out of the Comics Code era.
Strange that in a game where you can shoot people and set them on fire, among various other things, simply tying them up would be so verboten.
*goes off to play his Doms*
P.S. Spiderman is all about tying people up. Man, that bug loves doing that!
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Anything remotely sexual is verboten, always has been.
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Well, furries are already well accommodated. I don't see how whips and chains weapon set could hurt.
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We proceeded to design out the set based on the theme of "Controlling, giving and taking away pain." It would have been very easy to cross the ESRB Teen rating with such a thing, so we were very careful to ensure that nothing crossed the line, despite the thematic temptations.
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This makes no sense in light of a game that is all about killing bad guys or creating mayhem robbing banks and such as a bad guy. You can call it "arresting" all you want, its KILLING and thats all their is to it...
The truth is they don't want to have to deal with other compaines that already have chain wielders etc....ESRB my butt.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
I'm thinking you could put chains whips and a few other things in the same weapon category. I just don't know what weapon set would be called.
any ideas?
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Anything remotely sexual is verboten, always has been.
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Tell that to Dominatrix and her gimp suited minions.
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whip mastery could include chains as a customization option (Ghost rider is a example of chain whipping)
Only problem with that is the same problem we have with custom skins on other weapons...the sound effects don't change. So that chain whip makes a not-so-right sound. I would hope that any future weapon sets get the sound effects linked to the skin chosen.
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P.S. Spiderman is all about tying people up. Man, that bug loves doing that!
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Plus other stuff.
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Ah. And suddenly the reason why we haven't seen whips 'n chains for Dominators comes out.
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The reason has been known for a long time.
It has to do with the fact that the animation engine wouldn't be able to handle the animations necessary nicely at all.
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Please use this thread to discuss the below announcement.
Senior Designer Floyd Castle Grubb talks with Massively.com about the coming new powersets included in Issue 13: Power and Responsibility Shields and Pain Domination. This follows on the release of a new video and screenshots of these new powersets. Heres an excerpt from the article:
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Can you explain the basic process for getting new powers like these into the game?
Our basic process is we come up with an idea for how we want the powerset to progress, then spec out individual powers as far as what we want them to do. We send that to the animation department, and they make things look cool, while we fiddle with numbers establishing an initial balance point. Once we have the final visual FX, we do another balance pass, and then send it off for testing.
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Click here to read the full article on Massively.com.
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