I honestly could give to ****s about whether or not EA is balanced with or without IOs in mind. My brute runs with IOs. Those IOs are now going to be better (capped smashing defense is gonna become capped smashing/lethal defense - score). My brute is happy. You all and your 'sets shouldn't be balanced by blah blah blah' hooplah can go pee in someone else's Cheerios.
Who the hell doesn't run with IOs anyway? Is there some CoX equivilant of the Amish running around?
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only 3 of the 30 or so toons that i play on a regular basis have IOs. let alone enough to get set bonuses. and only 1 of those have all the IOs that I want on them.
I would say that a majority of the population play with out IOs of any kind. and of those that do have IOs only 1 maybe 2 of their toons have IOs with sets.
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I made a 2nd build on my 50 EM/EA that I was going to slot with just SO's before I relized that all his money is tied up with Bids on the Live servers. So I went and played some Maltas with out any slotting of any kind.
lets just say that i had to pause alot cause I had no end after each spawn. good news is I didn't face plant >.>
When I get a chance I'll be slotting ED with 2 end 2 heal 2 recharge and see how he does after that.
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I honestly could give to ****s about whether or not EA is balanced with or without IOs in mind. My brute runs with IOs. Those IOs are now going to be better (capped smashing defense is gonna become capped smashing/lethal defense - score). My brute is happy. You all and your 'sets shouldn't be balanced by blah blah blah' hooplah can go pee in someone else's Cheerios.
Who the hell doesn't run with IOs anyway? Is there some CoX equivilant of the Amish running around?
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Actually, MOST of my toons do not have IO's of any kind. Only a couple of my most faves do. Most of my SG mates and in-game pals are the same way. No need to down millions upon billions of infamy on every toon. So what do you want? A friggen cookie? You just made yourself look like an [censored], congrats 
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Who the hell doesn't run with IOs anyway? Is there some CoX equivilant of the Amish running around?
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It depends on how IO is used. If it is optimizing set bonus, then not everyone will do it. In particular, optimizing set bonus may involve rare recipes and even purple sets. In addition, it involves planning and good knowledge of the game mechanics. However, having a couple unique recipes or rare sets is within the reach of most people.
Franken-slotting a toon with IO set recipes should be ok for all players. Basically, you just pick a recipe that is cheap and don't care about set bonus. The budget can be as low as a few mil. Such kind of slotting can enhance a power in multiple ways that require less slots than using SO. In my opinion, there isn't much reason not to use IO this way, as it is cheap, effective and great QoL improvement. For those who don't use IO at all, it's actually not a big deal, that's their choice.
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It depends on how IO is used. If it is optimizing set bonus, then not everyone will do it. In particular, optimizing set bonus may involve rare recipes and even purple sets. In addition, it involves planning and good knowledge of the game mechanics. However, having a couple unique recipes or rare sets is within the reach of most people.
Franken-slotting a toon with IO set recipes should be ok for all players. Basically, you just pick a recipe that is cheap and don't care about set bonus. The budget can be as low as a few mil. Such kind of slotting can enhance a power in multiple ways that require less slots than using SO. In my opinion, there isn't much reason not to use IO this way, as it is cheap, effective and great QoL improvement. For those who don't use IO at all, it's actually not a big deal, that's their choice.
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Maybe this leads to the big misconception about IOs - that if you aren't getting the super rare uniques or sets you aren't using them. A lot of other responses to IOs basically are 'we aren't all rich like you, you big cheater' or 'IOs scare and confuse Gronk'. This attitude leads to the downright insane point of view that it is somehow possible to insert IOs in to the game while completely ignoring them in regards to balance.
Every toon I've made or used since inventions came out have been taking advantage or IOs. I don't farm, I don't play the market, and I sure the hell don't have billions of influence/infamy. Each toon is pretty much self contained as far as resources go, so anything that runs over 5mil to get the recipe for never finds its way on any of my people. Yet...I still find massive use for IOs.
Some toons frankenslot(I don't know about the rest of you, but I like getting the benefits of 6 slotting a power by using only 5 slots), some go for affordable set bonuses (like Thunerstrike, Red Fortune, and Kinetic Combat), and some just like to save up for procs (I have an all proc and SO rad/storm corruptor I'm working on).
Seriously, I'm all for you not bothering to use them since this game provides for any and all manner of builds (also, there is nothing IOs provide that one or two good buffers won't match or exceed), but its downright silly to petition for the devs and those of us who DO use them to pretend like they don't exist.
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Seriously, I'm all for you not bothering to use them since this game provides for any and all manner of builds (also, there is nothing IOs provide that one or two good buffers won't match or exceed), but its downright silly to petition for the devs and those of us who DO use them to pretend like they don't exist.
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The problem with that statement, Count, is that the devs have explicitly said that they will not balance content around the level of performance that can be achieved with IOs.
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And that is their misfortune.
There should be some really high-level content that is EXPLICITLY balanced around IO's. Not reworking old content, but a new zone (The moon?) where 'heroic' is pretty much equal 'invincible', and the difficulty goes up from there. Zones that make TF encounters look like fighting hellions. Something for the hard-core players to make their builds in the hope of being able to survive.
Rewards that won't unbalance the game? That is a major issue, yes. but even a slightly minor adjustment such as a 15% higher chance of a purple dropping would be enough to make people play there. Call it 'elite content' or something.
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That's why I said 'was'. Prior to IO's, SR's had big problems with defense debuffers, same as any other defense sets.
Or did you assume that I was somehow linking IO's to the buff that sr's defense debuff resistance got? The only link they have is timing.
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Did you even read what you wrote about SR?
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SR without IO's was BRUTAL when you would run up against enemies with any -defense. The cascade would lay you low even if you didn't run out of end.
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perhaps I should have said 'Prior to IO's being introduced and the SR buffs' but I was thinking about the time frame, not the IO's.
I hope everyone knows /EA got fixed...
It's called Elusivity
I thought elusivity only applied in PvP?
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I thought elusivity only applied in PvP?
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Thats what I was talking about...
Oh wait, people actually use /EA in PvE??
Who would do that? Seriously, it's like a Death Senten... That would explain this thread...
Nice troll attempt.
If I was trolling, I would've actually put effort into it..
As you can see, my first 50 was an EM/EA Stalker...
I got the 5th Debt Badge by 37...
Typed Defense Sucks, Nuff Said
EDIT - Fixed cuz I'm bad
The 'flat earth society' still exists too, nuff said.
Don't really get it...
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Positional Defense Sucks, Nuff Said
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EA is damage type based not positional...
the Fix SR thread is that way *points*
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I hope everyone knows /EA got fixed...
It's called Elusivity
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And its still not all that hot in pvp without MAJOR IO slotting bub.
Try again.
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Positional Defense Sucks, Nuff Said
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EA is damage type based not positional...
the Fix SR thread is that way *points*
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I actually meant Typed Defense*, my bad
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I hope everyone knows /EA got fixed...
It's called Elusivity
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And its still not all that hot in pvp without MAJOR IO slotting bub.
Try again.
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But it's BETTER, correct? Isn't that the point of Fixing? To make things BETTER?
The reasons that /EA is better now in PvP is also due to the fact of DR affecting ToHit so horridly that there's not enough ToHit to get through /EA so easily as there was before
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And that is their misfortune.
There should be some really high-level content that is EXPLICITLY balanced around IO's. Not reworking old content, but a new zone (The moon?) where 'heroic' is pretty much equal 'invincible', and the difficulty goes up from there. Zones that make TF encounters look like fighting hellions. Something for the hard-core players to make their builds in the hope of being able to survive.
Rewards that won't unbalance the game? That is a major issue, yes. but even a slightly minor adjustment such as a 15% higher chance of a purple dropping would be enough to make people play there. Call it 'elite content' or something.
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Actually, that would be kinda cool. Also, since like I said, buffers trump IOs, a decently designed super team with just SOs could also participate in a zone like that no problem. Really, only the people who wanted to take on that zone's solo content would need IOs (and certain builds probably wouldn't even need that).
I don't know what this has to do with fixing Energy Aura...but I pretty much consider /EA fixed so I suppose going off topic at this point is no big deal.
Here's another suggestion; not sure if it has been suggested before, make conserve power actually save power.
What I mean is that it siphons off an enhanceable amount of the gained endurance every second. This endurance is stored and is released to the character at a later time (max duration or when the toggle is turned off <yep it becomes a toggle now>
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The release of endurance to the character happens in two steps. First, a burst of 25% the stored amount. Second, the remaining 75% over the next 30s.
What this does: 1. Major Tier 9 drop mitigation. 2. Storing down time excess endurance between mobs and using the endurance to fight the mobs. 3. Maximizes ED use (can be used to store more if the CP toggle is on).
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I was bored last night so I went after a Rikti Pylon with my SS/EA Brute. About 15-20 minutes later the pylon was down.
I had to use aidself here and there when I did get hit and the Rage crash slowed down my DPS as well but all in all it was pretty easy. The build cost about 650 million infamy
Did you kite over some greys for drain fuel?
The most compelling thing I can think of doing with my SS/EA is that //mako blast brute that Auroxis posted a couple of pages back
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Frost, of late, I've agreed with some of your posts, but this is not amongst them.
I've played brutes with every one of these sets in I6 and I7 except SR. (I played an SR scrapper, as SR brutes didnt exist)
Accro is not that large an end drain. Dark regeneration? potentially yes. Accro? no.
-def for SR might once have made some sense, but in recent times, SR is so utterly immune to -defence that it's not even worth talking about.
Both EA and shields can be extrordinarily powerful with enough IO sets. [edit: maybe stronger than they should be] They're both weaker than average without them. That's the way it is.
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Agreed on all.