Consolidated Power and Weapon Customization Thread
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Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2007-09-08 16:38 in Suggestions and Ideas
Please take my post out. Link to the thread if you wish, where the entire discussion (including the fact that my idea was nixed officially) exists in full. Just having my idea there like it's still a viable option is yet another distortion of the facts.
Also if you are going to have Positron's answer about Power Customization from the Warcry interview, you need to include the clarification he made in the forums a day or two after, which was even more explicit.
"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
Done and Done..God Bless
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Rikiti return its cool and all but I for one fell the time and energy spent on that whole thing coulda been better spent on PC. I for one woulda appreciated it more.
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Well on this one I disagree...i think that the return of the rikti and having them invading atlas park was a great idea...something i wanted way back when. More rikti and interaction with them. Shoot I havent gotten my graphics card yet from ebay so Im still sitting here in the boards posting until it comes so i can play again. 
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Also if you are going to have Positron's answer about Power Customization from the Warcry interview, you need to include the clarification he made in the forums a day or two after, which was even more explicit.
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Ok well I included that...however as you can see the dev's responses have changed and varied since 2004
Again People I ask of you to stop with the multiple threads and pick one place to come up with great ideas on how Power Customization could work for everyone and not eat into other content or issues.
If i see any posts in here that are of a flame war nature..I will report you to the dev's and refer to the post
This thread is for honorable and logical discussions only..sure have a bit of fun but dont jump down someones throat in here.
That Defeats the purpose of this request! 
Happy Birthday!! Perfect_Pain 
Was the post where BaB said (in effect) that there was no idea that someone who wasn't familiar with their code could come up with that the Devs hadn't already...was that from his PM? cuz I notice that it's missing from your list there.
Furio--Lvl 50+3 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster, Virtue
Megadeth--Lvl 50+3 Necro/DM/Soul MM, Virtue
Veriandros--Lvl 50+3 Crab Soldier, Virtue
"So come and get me! I'll be waiting for ye, with a whiff of the old brimstone. I'm a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end!" Demoman, TF2
That was from another thread which is turning into a farce of a thread now...
I will go back and post a link to bab's post ...thanks for reminding me!
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Baffels me beyond belief, how they can not see PC would add an element to the game that shoulda been there long ago.
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They have always wanted to have PC ever since the 1st issue...they even tried toying with it before COV came out and had some pleasing results but decided it was going to take alot of time.
I think now the time factor is not as time consuming as it once was, given the things they have learned since 2004.
This thread is meant to help the DEV's by the way. Not as a bickering post or a gimmie gimmie post. I wanted people that had some knowledge of code and or art to come in here and make a good post. I am not a coder. But I am a writer and a voice artist. I also am good at rallying the troops as it were and offering encouragment. Thats why I'm here!
Ok, I'm going to be blunt. Your name isn't red, you don't get to decide what's an official thread. You don't need to tell people here, there, and everywhere to post only in your special Snowflake thread. Just bite your lip and wait until Monday for the Moderators to deal with it, because all you are doing is contributing to the mess. You're making repeated redundant and offtopic posts in multiple threads. Adding another thread of your own on top of all the other threads just exacerbates the existing problem.
If you have such a hard time with forum regulars who try to tell people their post about power customization is redundant, you can't justify doing the EXACT same thing when someone chooses not to do it in YOUR SPECIAL THREAD.
You say it's for the good of the forum and the community? You folks don't accept that argument when someone like me uses it to point out that multiple threads are redundant, so why should you get to use it?
Simple truth is, you need to just flat out stop posting about it until Monday at the soonest. Let the mods prune the deadwood. Let the community reps decide if there should be an official thread. Turn your back on the forums and take a breath, because you're acting exactly like the people you like to condemn for disagreeing about Power Customization.
"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
Lemur Lad, I have respect for you so I am also going to be blunt.
There have been numerous Pm's to to me to start a new thread and make it official. If you would look closely you will see I said this thread is almost official (awaiting devs response)
Perfect Pain has already asked that all the garbage threads be deleted and that we should have 1 solid and logical thread.
You need to get off my back and go bother someone else for a while please. But your right about one thing, I should wait until monday and let the dev's sort it out. In the meanwhile I am hoping someone will post something in here that will help the dev's
i asked for no bickering or flamewars...and i was asked to make this thread. So I made it.
Problem with that,(as BaB said in the post i was talking about) unless someone actually already works for cryptic, and knows their code inside and out, their suggestions are worth about the same as a Jeter rookie card thats been in a blender.
Furio--Lvl 50+3 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster, Virtue
Megadeth--Lvl 50+3 Necro/DM/Soul MM, Virtue
Veriandros--Lvl 50+3 Crab Soldier, Virtue
"So come and get me! I'll be waiting for ye, with a whiff of the old brimstone. I'm a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end!" Demoman, TF2
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Problem with that,(as BaB said in the post i was talking about) unless someone actually already works for cryptic, and knows their code inside and out, their suggestions are worth about the same as a Jeter rookie card thats been in a blender.
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Thats true to an extent..the other purpose of this thread was to gather all dev responses....i mean ALL OF THEM...so people can have a clear idea of whats going on.
Im sure people are tired of having to explain the status of pc or if there is a status of PC
Thats The other purpose of this thread 
Given that, i think it'd have much better chance of sticky-dom if it were just "consolidated dev posts re: PC" and just drop the player ideas altogether.
Furio--Lvl 50+3 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster, Virtue
Megadeth--Lvl 50+3 Necro/DM/Soul MM, Virtue
Veriandros--Lvl 50+3 Crab Soldier, Virtue
"So come and get me! I'll be waiting for ye, with a whiff of the old brimstone. I'm a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end!" Demoman, TF2
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Given that, i think it'd have much better chance of sticky-dom if it were just "consolidated dev posts re: PC" and just drop the player ideas altogether.
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Too bad there is no subtitle option like on eBay then you could describe more
Here's my suggestion for how to do this, mostly in terms of the User Interface:
Use the costume editor.
Create new "costume slots" for each powerset, so that if you pick the "Katana" set, you get the "Katana" costume slot. With that slot, you can choose:
[u]Weapon or Power appearance[u]
The particular shape and pattern of your power might be changable - IOW, what does YOUR katana look like? Or maybe your Energy Blast has squares instead of circles ... maybe your energy blast is a thin line of energy, with a spiral/copil of anothr energy around it. Stuff like that.
[u]Colors[u]
Even if you stick with the default Energy Blast, say, maybe yours is green and white, instead of blue and white? Or maybe your Katana has a dark blue blade, instead of the default "bright silvery steel" look.
[u]Aura[u]
Not really an option here, but - for those with Weapons, maybe that weapon could become a new, selectible Aura location. Want a fiery Katana? Get to level 30 and make the right Aura choices!
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On the coding side, this means a whole new function has to be programmed in - to make the use of a power return not the default animation, but instead, return the specific CHOSEN animation, in the right colors. The download would be large, as it'd have to include all-new graphics for EVERY power, at least once. And all-new graphics for EVERY weapon, at least, say, three or four times (what point a choice, if you haven't got multiple things to choose FROM?).
But during play, it's a tiny bump of extra data, transmitted at the same time you get their Costume data ... because the new animations aretreated AS costume data.
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Oh, and because I've done it to everyone else with a PowCust idea ... fair's fair: I should smack myself with a Spank 'em, cowboy!
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That was from another thread which is turning into a farce of a thread now...
I will go back and post a link to bab's post ...thanks for reminding me!
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Really don't think you should be mixing quotes from devs with theories from the players on how to implement this system and call it an 'official thread'.
I'm all for collecting all of the various official responses on this subject in one place and making it a sticky thread, if that will help cut down on the number of new posts on this every week or so. But let's keep the official thread limited to official information.
Formerly "Back Alley Brawler"
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Here's my suggestion for how to do this, mostly in terms of the User Interface:
Use the costume editor.
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Well that does seem to solve one part of the problem,which is how much server lag adding PC would create...at least from what your saying here
But the art and coding time would end up being the same on this...is that correct?
Ok I will call it the Consolidated Power and Weapon Customization Thread until the devs feel it should be otherwise...hopefully it will still become a sticky in any case.
Do what they do in the developers corner and other sections, and re-name it to the Consolidated, or UnOfficial power and weapon custimization thread. I agree this needs to be consolidated, but because you are not a developer, moderator or administrator you can't make anything official.
Murphys Military Law
#23. Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy other people to shoot at.
#46. If you can't remember, the Claymore is pointed towards you.
#54. Killing for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Do what they do in the developers corner and other sections, and re-name it to the Consolidated, or UnOfficial power and weapon custimization thread. I agree this needs to be consolidated, but because you are not a developer, moderator or administrator you can't make anything official.
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Sounds good I re-named it to :
Consolidated Power and Weapon Customization Thread
yay now i can use a grin!!!!!!!!!
Murphys Military Law
#23. Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy other people to shoot at.
#46. If you can't remember, the Claymore is pointed towards you.
#54. Killing for peace is like screwing for virginity.
well now that its consolidated...im on the look out for anything that needs to be consolidated
thanks for all the good posts so far
Something that happened that was never planned on happening 06/05/2003
http://www.gamesfirst.com/previews/t...tyofheroes.htm
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Interestingly enough there will be no player vs. player conflict in City of Heroes. I was told that the real point of the game is for players to band together on a more positive note, to become real "protectors." At this point if you were hoping to become a super villain then youll just have to settle for saying mean things to your in-game neighbors. At first I was a bit disappointed to hear this bit of news, but when you think about it the game will provide a load of villains (including your personal nemesis) for you to tackle and the level of customization City of Heroes offers elbows that disappointment right out of the picture.
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Funny how the world turns isn't it?
Sounds to me... the devs already have a clue as to how to go about it. How else can they claim is difficult and monumental in task and all that?!?
Seems to me (as I said before) its just a matter of them doing it, and stop with the excuses for not.
Baffels me beyond belief, how they can not see PC would add an element to the game that shoulda been there long ago.
Stronger opinion<--disclaimer* I don't think it would take a NASA Monkey to figure out that PC would be an element to the game that would far outweigh an new zone, PVP, recipie, etc./content. Yes people want these things...hell I still await the out in space zone long ago talked about and the underwater zone, but really wait more months for that or PC.
hmmm give me PC please, that way when its being worked on I can get all excited and when it arrives I will have oddles and oddles of fun with my characters customizing them and fleshing them out for months while I await the new...zone or content.
Last note and not meant to be a slam but really I-10 "Invasion". Rikiti return its cool and all but I for one fell the time and energy spent on that whole thing coulda been better spent on PC. I for one woulda appreciated it more.
"Does that mean the game is "no fun"? Nope...In other words: meh, it beats hell out of doing the dishes. But it's no where near as fun as it was."-ScionofSatan