Discussion: Protector, Forums & Community
Well, bah, maybe when you update the forums then.
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Don't act like other Protectorites are the enemy that should be reserved for me alone.
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Leave it to good ol' GA to unite people for a just cause!
Maybe on top of a title system there could be implemented a method for the OP to moderate their own thread. I'm not too savy on the whole operation of forums and such but this might help alleviate threadjacking and also let the OP get better, more relevent results.
Also, I agree with GA. Let's remember that we are a community and work together.
I personally applaude Ex Libris for bringing this up and asking us as "grownups" to solve the problem ourselves.
For as long as I have been here (almost 2 years) forum threads have been being jacked. It used to be the "old timers" that did it, now it is a different group.
To be honest it is worse now than in the past, but I also think our "active" server population is up more now than in the past.
I am bad about continuing a threadjack and I can admit it. I have initiated my fair share of threadjacks myself.
My posting and reading time are limited. I manage to read the forums a couple of times on a non busy day. On busy days I only manage to read them once at home.
I can certainly see that it seems all threads seem fair game anymore. I could go with a bit less threadjacking and a lot more tolerance from everyone.
Myself, I have tried to avoid threadjacking in obviously serious threads since Ex Libris posted her "Have fun here" thread.
So far I can see everyone's opinions. I came to Protector for the fun and light-hearted folks that hang out here. It's my way to unwind and have fun at the end of a stressful day of helping idiots find their way out of a wet paper bag.
If you're having a bad day, go watch a movie, TV, or go somewhere else. Please don't come into the game or onto the forum and take it out on others. Also, just because someone comes in from another server or is new here there is no need to be negative toward them and rip them a new one.
Hey, this is Protector. We rocked Hami both sides! That took cooperation and a lot of hard work. Let's find that middle ground.
Thanks for taking the time to listen to my opinion.
Tech Support Rule #1 - They will lie to you. Usually intentionally.
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Back on topic:
Protector is sweetness and light compared to other server forums I frequent. We respect each other, and enjoy our time together. We, in my opinion, police ourselves just fine.
Finally...I like pie.
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qtlob (quoted for the love of bunnies)
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Protector forum in general, as Vega pointed out, is far more friendly than some of the others. Frankly effort could be spent fixing things and places far more broken.
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That is true Wolfen, but I'd rather keep the parts that work from breaking(us), than try to fix the ones that are already broken(them).
*Disclaimer: The "us" and "them" tags are meant for clarification purposes only, this was not a direct comment on our community being superior to others, even though it's true. *
There is no doubt the Protector forum crowd is one of the better communities. ( I don't frequent them all, so no I won't be egocentric enough to insist we are the best.)
Whats sad is some of the other servers who have a really great player base - and home of some of the CoH 'greats' and writers, has a total lack of teaming and help community - very little posting of activities - and people who attempt to start new SGs, move to the server etc are constantly beat on to the point where
the best players and new players simply give up.
Intervention rarely occurs, as do flagging posts for modding.
Yet in our forum, which looks like Mother Teresa in comparison, we have red name intervention.
Sorry, but to me that merits attention far more than our 'problem' where people like to flag posts and PM - usually when its someone not in their 'camp'
Common sense. We lack it. If you disagree, you haven't been here long.
I'll admit. Yeah I'm not a "perfect" poster. I know I have more than my share of lapses. But comeon folks. it's not hard to make an inside joke with your friends AND be on topic at the same time. But when your only reply is to your friend who posted 13 seconds after you did, and then you two go into a discussion that could just be handled in PMs or in game, it's ridiculous!
Love your server first. That's all I'm asking.
Self Proclaimed KING of Radiation
My Post count is > Dave Winfield
The Smoking Lounge. Saturdays @ Midnight on The Switch
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what's ironic is most of the people who complain, and likely PM about TJ - do it on occasion as well. In fact one of the more verbal ones made a point to laugh at a request a whiles back to stop, with a snide insulting remark.
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Wolfen, as I said awhile back, we ALL threadjack. No one is here claiming that they don't. God knows I do it, too.
But the mere fact that people are getting this upset demonstrates that there is a problem. A thread that I dearly loved, and was important to me, however pathetic that may be.. it was important to me, is now locked. Why? Because despite multiple requests to please leave that one thread alone, the thread jacking continued, until the OP was saddened by it enough to ask that the thread be locked. Now, the next time the forum is purged, that thread will be lost. And, yes, I find that sad.
So, yes.. in the same way I, as a social drinker, can be angry at someone who drinks till they can't stand then drives home without being a hypocrit; and the same I, who occasionally lose my temper and yell at my son, can be angry at someone who relentlessly verbally, emotionally, and mentally abuses their child without being a hypocrit; I, as an occassional thread jacker, can be upset that a group of people drive every thread in this forum into gibberish, without being a hypocrit.
I thread jack, I enjoy it as much as the next person. If I were asked to stop joking around in someone else's thread, I would.. instantly. I would not get angry, defensive, or make veiled insults at them for asking. I would apologize, and move on. And that's what I'd ask of everyone here.
it's because Protector is so dead that they have to come on the forums to have any form of entertainment.
heh, a first poster! sheesh what it takes to get lurkers out of the closet
*sigh*
And here is the "real" problem. Folks that want to stir the pot without adding any sort of real value to a thread. I'll never understand folks that just want to start trouble.
Tech Support Rule #1 - They will lie to you. Usually intentionally.
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Maybe a title system is in order...
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This brings to mind an idea I had earlier. Would it be possible to implement some sort of "typing" option for posts? Such as being able to choose between: On Topic, Off Topic, and Both, and then make the different kinds easily distinguishable?
That way we could have "Johnny A" reading through a thread, and let's say he doesn't mind completely off-topic posts and enjoys reading them, so he'll just ignore the differentials and read through normally. Then comes along "Katie B" that finds a thread about a planned event, but doesn't want to sift through "off-topic" posts, she can just look at the area of the post that's around the subject line, and see whether it's one of the three options, and if it's Off-Topic, she can skip it and move on.
I'd like to know if this would be possible, it would probably help.
*Editted to include a response to Sooner's post above mine*
You forgot to include me! I own the middle ground, or atleast rent it..
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yeah by the way i don't think this will work because these 'Protectorites' seem so dumb they can't actually comprehend what they're typing to even know they are threadjacking.
Is this a thread about threads? Or a discussion about discussions?
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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[*]Using quick reply causes your post to be tagged to the post directly above you, creating a chain of posts, sometimes when you remove a post it will take out a portion of the chain. The best solution is to hit the reply button instead of quick reply, especially directly after a threadjacking. Many innocent and constructive posts get removed for this reason alone.
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Personally, * I * didn't know this Ex, and this helped my understanding a lot. Thank you.
Smokey, not to be mean or anything, but.. WHy are you posting here, if all you're doing is insulting a group of people that are trying to sort out an issue?
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Smokey, not to be mean or anything, but.. WHy are you posting here, if all you're doing is insulting a group of people that are trying to sort out an issue?
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it will never be resolved. "QFT"
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[*]Using quick reply causes your post to be tagged to the post directly above you, creating a chain of posts, sometimes when you remove a post it will take out a portion of the chain. The best solution is to hit the reply button instead of quick reply, especially directly after a threadjacking. Many innocent and constructive posts get removed for this reason alone.
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Personally, * I * didn't know this Ex, and this helped my understanding a lot. Thank you.
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I never use the Quick Reply option because of the chance for misunderstanding.
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
LoL...
Ok Is it just me or is this thread trying to get jacked?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
I have sat down and I have read through alot of this.
There have been quite a few statements that begin to give hope to mend things.
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LoL...
Ok Is it just me or is this thread trying to get jacked?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
I have sat down and I have read through alot of this.
There have been quite a few statements that begin to give hope to mend things.
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well it's no surprise here..
first word that comes to mind when i hear Protector is: incoherent. i'm not sure what's so hard about staying on topic to these people, but obviously it's a challenge. some of you even admit to threadjacking, but yet still continue to do so which is beyond me.. and the rest just do it because like i said earlier.. they aren't able to comprehend what they're actually doing. but yeah, i think manam has the best idea here, but i doubt it will work being put into gear with 'Protectorites'.
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and btw it goes on heartily in (at least several) of the other server forums as well. What's different here? People in the other server forums don't PM Ex Libris.
(edit - which re-reading the thread in more detail - she pretty much verified. We have a 'problem' b/c the drama lovers here make it so. Plain and simple.)
way
too
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drama
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a
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Having thought for quite a while this afternoon on whether I wanted to chime in on this topic or not, Ive decided that I will for what its worth.
I agree with all the posters before me that the Protector Forum peeps are some of the nicest folks around. We have a good community of folks here and were pretty diverse.
I quoted the quote above because it made me go HUH? when I read it. Ex Libris started this thread so that we could have a (hopefully) civilized discussion on the matter.
I sent a PM to Ex Libris yesterday asking that the thread I started up 4 months ago be locked. I posted in said thread that I had made the PM and why. In the eyes of the above quote this makes me a Drama Lover
? I saw that a fun thread I started has long since outlived its usefulness and seemed to be headed into a flame fest so I ask that it be closed. End of story. I didnt make a case about threadjackers or ask for moderation or anything. I simply asked that my thread be locked.
Have I ever clicked the notify moderator button? Sure, a few times for posts mostly outside the Protector forums that were really inappropriate. Have I ever threadjacked myself? Not that I can ever recall. I dont post very often, but I suppose that its possible that I might have at some point.
There have been some really great suggestions so far. I think the idea of a Sticky on the thread for check this out stuff would be great. Currently we have a thread for threadjacking and the Stalker Report that is its own special hybrid. If folks dont feel like reading them, they never have to.
I pop in and out of the Protector Forums thoughout the day. The threadjacking seems to wax and wane kinda like the tide. There are a lot of threads that I dont read and have missed a post here and skimming past the threadjacks.
There has been a lot of talk of tolerance and I think that there could always be more tolerance in the world and on the forums. Pointing fingers, calling names, saying people hate you or you hate other people doesnt help anything, it only causes more hurt feelings and doesnt help solve anything.
One thing that we need to keep in mind as were trying to work through this issue and come up with solutions is that things need to be clear and easy to follow. Lots of new folks come and go, some may never post, others may post a lot. It would be a sad thing if one had to read a manual on proper posting procedures for the protector forums.
Protector is a special little server with it's own style and flair. I'd hate to see it get lost in too much structure. But at the same time, folks need to respect one another and try to color between the lines when possible.
*tosses cupcakes around the forum for everyone*
*thinks about the forumites and tosses some milk bones out for the canine crowd*
-Beka
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LoL...
Ok Is it just me or is this thread trying to get jacked?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
I have sat down and I have read through alot of this.
There have been quite a few statements that begin to give hope to mend things.
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I can thread jack it to sport some humor around.....but then I would fuel a fight and it would lead here and lead there yada yada yada.
SmokeyBonez, you got alot of balls to try and pick a fight with a whole server but a very dumb thing to do. Trust me, thats not a very wise thing to do even if there is a monitor between us all. Of course I cannot nor am in no position to threaten you but giving you advise to ease back on what your doing would be the best thing you would ever do.
Like they say, kids say the darnest things
I honestly think this is a joke account...
If I can ask.. we are trying to accomplish something here.
This individual is trying to troll.
Please, everyone, just ignore him. He's hoping for a response, so please don't give him one.
Let's just keep trying to work this out, ok?
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If I can ask.. we are trying to accomplish something here.
This individual is trying to troll.
Please, everyone, just ignore him. He's hoping for a response, so please don't give him one.
Let's just keep trying to work this out, ok?
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LOL, too late.....already gave the little smuck a response
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This is an ingeneral question not placed at anyone in particular. Please take note of this...
What exactly is your definition of threadjacking.
Who decides if it is actually a threadjack or not?
Who is anyone to decide which thread is important or not?
Is it not a problem when blantant remarks towards others are made?
I think it is a matter of compromise not conforming to the others wishes...
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what's ironic is most of the people who complain, and likely PM about TJ - do it on occasion as well. In fact one of the more verbal ones made a point to laugh at a request a whiles back to stop, with a snide insulting remark.
Protector forum in general, as Vega pointed out, is far more friendly than some of the others. Frankly effort could be spent fixing things and places far more broken.