Plugging Curse-Gaming.com for Showing Off Your Art
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8baller,
Posted on: 2007-03-23 18:00 in Multi-Media Fan Creations
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Weve been talking more with the folks over at Curse-Gaming.com and the features that their game portal has. Youve probably seen the recent article on the coming Hamidon revamp included in Issue 9. Besides covering a bunch of games, hosting a ton of game downloads and providing user community tools they also allow very easy to use uploading of images. Once uploaded images can be rated by other users and comments left. You can read more about Curse-Gaming here or get involved by setting up a free account here.
Ok, so why you may ask, am I plugging them? Well it has nothing to do with the fact that I think they are a swell bunch of guys. Rather, we can see that the services they offer are pretty nice as a platform for showing off your artwork. While Id love for us to be offering similar services here on the City of Heroes and Villains websites, the legal issues surrounding it make it prohibitive. So, our thinking goes, why not work with an affiliate site like Curse and spread the word of functionality they have to offer.
So, check them out and let me know what you think!
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I find it utterly amazing that we don't have a marketing group to do something with this game. You have the RED NAMES pimpin other companies to do what they should have done a while back.
Oh well...more proof that this game is slowly slipping into the dark abyss of nothingness.
Well done Lighthouse for once again looking stellar in your job.
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DA's a great site. But this is, at least, a step in a good direction, yes?
Maybe they'll do something with DA in the future, but they're doing -something-.
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You have something brown on your nose.
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Weve been talking more with the folks over at Curse-Gaming.com and the features that their game portal has. Youve probably seen the recent article on the coming Hamidon revamp included in Issue 9. Besides covering a bunch of games, hosting a ton of game downloads and providing user community tools they also allow very easy to use uploading of images. Once uploaded images can be rated by other users and comments left. You can read more about Curse-Gaming here or get involved by setting up a free account here.
Ok, so why you may ask, am I plugging them? Well it has nothing to do with the fact that I think they are a swell bunch of guys. Rather, we can see that the services they offer are pretty nice as a platform for showing off your artwork. While Id love for us to be offering similar services here on the City of Heroes and Villains websites, the legal issues surrounding it make it prohibitive. So, our thinking goes, why not work with an affiliate site like Curse and spread the word of functionality they have to offer.
So, check them out and let me know what you think!
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I find it utterly amazing that we don't have a marketing group to do something with this game. You have the RED NAMES pimpin other companies to do what they should have done a while back.
Oh well...more proof that this game is slowly slipping into the dark abyss of nothingness.
Well done Lighthouse for once again looking stellar in your job.
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OK now that was just snarky. As was said before, at least they're trying something.
And yes, curse-gaming IS a gaming/MMO oriented site.
I just think that it's painfully obvious that, having NOT been recognized prior to now, the fan art community has found their own venue and are happy with it.
I'd be happy to set up an account on curse-gaming... but DA is where I go for commissions and to see everyone else's work, as well as get tips, read people's journals, and so forth. So I don't see taking much time to do the same thing with curse-gaming.
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
They are trying nothing. They are giving themselves an out so they don't have to "officially" deal with it.
Snarky or not...I'm glad you folks found a venue already. I disagree with Lighthouse pimping other services because the Marketing Department is defunct and they can't provide the services themselves.
I think it's another dropped ball issue.
Just my opinion.
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DA's a great site. But this is, at least, a step in a good direction, yes?
Maybe they'll do something with DA in the future, but they're doing -something-.
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You have something brown on your nose.
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Okay, that right there...
Absolutely unnecessary and utterly rude.
"A good Defender is the battle hardened Corpsman who will kill a Nazi with a tongue depressor while putting a splint on your leg, then hand you a fresh clip of ammo." ~Jock_Thompson
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DA's a great site. But this is, at least, a step in a good direction, yes?
Maybe they'll do something with DA in the future, but they're doing -something-.
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You have something brown on your nose.
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o.O
What would that be? The realization that NC is actually doing -something- and the bulk of the art community says "It's not enough! You suck!"
Ok, then it's brown. Jerk.
well they are doing something we already did ourselves 
soooo its a case of it being a day late and a dollar short
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well they are doing something we already did ourselves soooo its a case of it being a day late and a dollar short
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But it's more than they did last week. And, if it's well received, the art community might be able to convince them to do more. But, I guess no one can see past the fact that they didn't chose the freat and might DA for this. Who knows, Curse-Gaming sounds like a gaming sight. Maybe *gasp* they're getting free advertising to *gasp* gamers for a *gasp* game!
Good grief. If even the tiniest little bit that they do isn't good enough to even warrent a "Hey, that's nice" why the hell would they ever, ever want to do more?
Ya'll are shooting yourselves in the foot with this. Seriously. This was an oppurtunity that could've been expanded. But no, they didn't pick your site to hell with the whole thing.
Gah. Ever wonder why anyone tries anything? This whole thing reminds me of her.
Athyna, it's not that we don't appreciate the, um, gesture.
But the fan-art community has been the red-headed stepchild of this whole gig for as long as I can recall. And as nifty as this sounds, it IS a day late and a dollar short. It comes off as "Oh yeah, if you want a place to show off your talent, here, Curse has said they'll host it."
We already 'outsourced' ourselves for lack of any sort of recognition or response from NCSoft. And after the slap in the face that Gill Bates got for them NOT putting his CuppaJo tribute in the gallery, a lot of artists are rather leery of anything 'official' anyway.
Unfortunately neither Curse-Gaming nor Lighthouse are familiar with this past history, so this whole conversation probably comes across as a bunch of spoiled brats turning up their noses. However, now that past history has been explained, perhaps they won't be too offended when we tell them DA's working out perfectly ok, and pardon us for not maxing out Curse-Gaming's art area in the first ten minutes after the announcement.
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
I really don't think its about the site they picked...at least its not with me.
I don't really view this as "trying" or shooting oneself in the foot. This is simply marketing partnership with Curse. Let's not make it seem like this is an olive branch, because its not.
Its difficult to look at the EU site (of the same game) and see that theyre more welcoming of their artist than the US site. Artist on this forum want to have a place to post their fan art. To have contests based upon that artwork. To not be treated like a criminal because artwork is based upon a game. Not to be denied a showcase because someone has a business based on their talent.
When a committee is formed with the idea of promoting fan art, then that would be an olive branch. That post reads like marketing deal with Curse. Instead of asking the Art Community what are their ideas, they get a post pim*ing them another site.
They posted a link , alot of us said thats nice but i'll be sticking with DA
and the more you try to browbeat us the less likely we are to embrace this new site , because quite honestly as of this moment this particular site is leaving a bad taste in my mouth .
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Athyna, it's not that we don't appreciate the, um, gesture.
But the fan-art community has been the red-headed stepchild of this whole gig for as long as I can recall. And as nifty as this sounds, it IS a day late and a dollar short. It comes off as "Oh yeah, if you want a place to show off your talent, here, Curse has said they'll host it."
We already 'outsourced' ourselves for lack of any sort of recognition or response from NCSoft. And after the slap in the face that Gill Bates got for them NOT putting his CuppaJo tribute in the gallery, a lot of artists are rather leery of anything 'official' anyway.
Unfortunately neither Curse-Gaming nor Lighthouse are familiar with this past history, so this whole conversation probably comes across as a bunch of spoiled brats turning up their noses. However, now that past history has been explained, perhaps they won't be too offended when we tell them DA's working out perfectly ok, and pardon us for not maxing out Curse-Gaming's art area in the first ten minutes after the announcement.
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It does come off as spoiled. LH isn't Cricket, nor is he Cuppa. It's not fair to hold him responsible for 3 or 4 years worth of being ignored. Gods bless Cricket and Cuppa, they had some good qualities, but they weren't no Bridger. Bottom-line, for me, the difference between what's on the EU main page and the US main page.
No, LH hasn't redesigned the entire website. Heck, that's probably not in his job description. But, he's taken a step to get more involvement from the community and how's he answered? "It's not DA." I can almost hear the smugness coming through some of these posts. And it saddens me. Deeply. Corporations like NC are not *ever* going to bend over backwards for someone. It's just not done. You meet them halfway. Unfortunately, we as players have failed at that. Anything NC had planned for the main page will likely be flushed.
I'm sorry but this is just so damn sad. The thing everyone claims to have wanted and they make an attempt to get involved, that attempt gets shot down.
I can't even log into the <hell no, I ain't saying>... I'm just going to have a glass of wine and go to bed. Blame LH all you want, blame the alignment of Venus. This community doesn't feel very welcoming anymore. And it's not just this little section. It's everywhere. My days are filled with baby stuffs... you guys were my one sane outlet... were... all good things must come to an end...
The way I see it is this is only a crude attempt at embracing the art community. If they really wanted to get more involved, they would have visited the art forums more often and would know how popular dA is with us and work something out there.
I'm refering to the information in the post, not the person who posted it. This isn't about Lighthouse. I'm aware of his limiations in this matter and his history.
The Art Community and NCSoft have a sorted history. The idea that "Hey take your stuff over here" is a gesture of good will, is a bit naive. It might not be malicious but its hardly a step in the right direction.
I wouldn't expect a partnership with Deviant Art, that is a pipe dream. I would expect the same support as the EU forums. That is not asking for too much. There is nothing to be lost from embracing those creative souls who enjoy a company product so much that they use their talents to promote it. And yet, here the artist stand, getting moldy crumbs and are expected to swoon with gratitude.
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Athyna, it's not that we don't appreciate the, um, gesture.
But the fan-art community has been the red-headed stepchild of this whole gig for as long as I can recall. And as nifty as this sounds, it IS a day late and a dollar short. It comes off as "Oh yeah, if you want a place to show off your talent, here, Curse has said they'll host it."
We already 'outsourced' ourselves for lack of any sort of recognition or response from NCSoft. And after the slap in the face that Gill Bates got for them NOT putting his CuppaJo tribute in the gallery, a lot of artists are rather leery of anything 'official' anyway.
Unfortunately neither Curse-Gaming nor Lighthouse are familiar with this past history, so this whole conversation probably comes across as a bunch of spoiled brats turning up their noses. However, now that past history has been explained, perhaps they won't be too offended when we tell them DA's working out perfectly ok, and pardon us for not maxing out Curse-Gaming's art area in the first ten minutes after the announcement.
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It does come off as spoiled. LH isn't Cricket, nor is he Cuppa. It's not fair to hold him responsible for 3 or 4 years worth of being ignored. Gods bless Cricket and Cuppa, they had some good qualities, but they weren't no Bridger. Bottom-line, for me, the difference between what's on the EU main page and the US main page.
No, LH hasn't redesigned the entire website. Heck, that's probably not in his job description. But, he's taken a step to get more involvement from the community and how's he answered? "It's not DA." I can almost hear the smugness coming through some of these posts. And it saddens me. Deeply. Corporations like NC are not *ever* going to bend over backwards for someone. It's just not done. You meet them halfway. Unfortunately, we as players have failed at that. Anything NC had planned for the main page will likely be flushed.
I'm sorry but this is just so damn sad. The thing everyone claims to have wanted and they make an attempt to get involved, that attempt gets shot down.
I can't even log into the <hell no, I ain't saying>... I'm just going to have a glass of wine and go to bed. Blame LH all you want, blame the alignment of Venus. This community doesn't feel very welcoming anymore. And it's not just this little section. It's everywhere. My days are filled with baby stuffs... you guys were my one sane outlet... were... all good things must come to an end...
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That's just it. Lighthouse is just the messenger. He's not to blame. And yes, he's walking into this blind (as is Curse-Gaming.) and for that, hey, I'm sorry.
Shame on NCSoft for not prepping either of the two parties beforehand... or for doing their research into how we feel as a fan-art community about the way we're recieved or represented.
THAT'S the problem... although with DeviantArt's resources there really isn't a problem at all.
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
I'll give it a shot (not as a replacement for DA, cause yes, the community...organization...and everything else rocks there), but because I don't mind posting a few pieces elsewhere. Most likely not everything will be duped there, but a few couldn't hurt.
And to the CG guys, thanks for removing the stick figures.
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p.s. now let's just hope the registration doesn't error out on me again.
p.s.s. OH, and for the record...I DEFINATELY think NCsoft should have their own fan art section on the site like in the past. Like DarkJedi said, ESPECIALLY for this guy (considering the genre).
"Scumball in the side pocket." - 8 Baller
Oh....and nope. Errored out again.
Sounds like fate.
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"Scumball in the side pocket." - 8 Baller
That.... does not bode well for this particular arrangement.
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
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That's just it. Lighthouse is just the messenger. He's not to blame. And yes, he's walking into this blind (as is Curse-Gaming.) and for that, hey, I'm sorry.
Shame on NCSoft for not prepping either of the two parties beforehand... or for doing their research into how we feel as a fan-art community about the way we're recieved or represented.
THAT'S the problem... although with DeviantArt's resources there really isn't a problem at all.
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So, why all the hate? And yes, "It's not DA" comes off as hate. Why not take the opputunity to build it into more? How many posts complaining about it and how many posts using this as a bridge to something more? Maybe, even the coveted and grandest of all, DA?
Yes, that's how it sounds. That nothing on earth compares to the splendor and granduer. Sorry guys. Really. If you wanted to work this into something more, I don't think that could be done now. Really. I've tried to be postitive, I've tried to point out where this is a step, maybe a small step, but big changes don't come overnight guys, they come in steps. And this one, using a little empathy and imagining myself in LH's place, to hell with it. Nothing is good enough. Nothing ever will be good enough. Why bother.
Fight amongst yourselves. I'm going to bed and I'm going to sleep with my husband.
I'm not blaming Lighthouse for anything, I'm just saying that it would've helped if Lighthouse had asked more question about what people want. PM some of the more prolific collectors and artists and get their suggestions on how to improve things. Or, failing that, create more suggestion threads and actually STICKY them so they don't get buried. Honestly, why was the last one not stickied?
Goodbye, I guess.
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hate?
vas ist das mit den 'hate'?
OK. Analogy. We're like a bunch of teenagers trying to jam in someone's garage. And we get told, "Sorry, can't jam in this garage, the neighbors are complaining about the noise."
So we grumble and mumble and mill about, maybe pluck out half-hearted tunes in each other's living rooms on rare occasion...
then one of us finds a recording studio at the local community center, and we all sign up and have a great time... making strides in improving the music, some folks even cutting albums, brancing out to other genres, etc...
"Oh yeah, I know we booted you all out of the garage... but there's this warehouse you can use."
*blink*
That's.... nice..... *looking at each other going "Wha...?"*
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
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That's just it. Lighthouse is just the messenger. He's not to blame. And yes, he's walking into this blind (as is Curse-Gaming.) and for that, hey, I'm sorry.
Shame on NCSoft for not prepping either of the two parties beforehand... or for doing their research into how we feel as a fan-art community about the way we're recieved or represented.
THAT'S the problem... although with DeviantArt's resources there really isn't a problem at all.
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So, why all the hate? And yes, "It's not DA" comes off as hate. Why not take the opputunity to build it into more? How many posts complaining about it and how many posts using this as a bridge to something more? Maybe, even the coveted and grandest of all, DA?
Yes, that's how it sounds. That nothing on earth compares to the splendor and granduer. Sorry guys. Really. If you wanted to work this into something more, I don't think that could be done now. Really. I've tried to be postitive, I've tried to point out where this is a step, maybe a small step, but big changes don't come overnight guys, they come in steps. And this one, using a little empathy and imagining myself in LH's place, to hell with it. Nothing is good enough. Nothing ever will be good enough. Why bother.
Fight amongst yourselves. I'm going to bed and I'm going to sleep with my husband.
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Actually I blame NC for the lack of marketing on this game for the last 3 years. Then I blame the Devs for not putting out more of the good stuff in the last year and a half. Finally I do saddle some blame on the current forume regime simply because I don't like someone begging me to give them a chance and then smacking down the forums because we violated a rule on this or that.
Fine...he is the messenger...but as the Community Relations guy...it is HIS duty to figure out what we are clamoring for. It is HIS duty to put us at ease. It is HIS duty to be our voice to NC and to Cryptic in these matters.
Instead...he tells us what we are going to get. He stirs up more than he places at ease. And he voices what Cryptic and NC want us to hear.
Is he Cuppa or Cricket? No. Is he Bridger? No.
He is a new beast that I think likes hearing himself talk more than listening to the concerns of the community and addressing us on those issues.
I applaude the attempt to fix a PR problem with the fan-art. I just disagree with how it was handled. He posted it and then tried to sell us on how good they are...without attempting to poll the community.
I don't think we're being hateful. Whoever Curse is, they're watching this thread, as is LH, and they have the opportunity to hear the truth, and what we seem to prefer as far as services go.
Basically we'd love a site that not only competes with DA but out does them. Right now, that is NOT Curse. If they want us to endorse, support, be involved in a new site for less than similar purposes, they have to make it worth our while.
As was said before the trouble of posting all our works somewhere new would be a lot of time consuming, little pay off putting work... If I felt Curse had a competitive edge over DA, I might consider it, if I felt it was more than just a screenshot dumpster, then perhaps I'd look into investing my already spread out internet time.
SO they should look at this as a list of the things we really want, what they are and are not providing, and perhaps it'll occur to them why we're not interested in using both places. Not right now...
If it were me running, and I really want the support of this community, I'd try again based on this new knowledge.
Besides how can we hate a site we're not even using...
I don't see why asking for NC Soft to have a real fanart section on their website is asking them to "bend over backwards" for us.
This game is about the community, and www.cityofheroes.com does not take one effort to show off their community, it just links to old news. This is what the art forum is concerned about, and giving us some off-shoot website that newcomers will have to do some serious digging to find is in no way, shape, or form what City of Heroes needs.
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City of Heroes 5,700 results
City of Villains 1,337 results
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1337? really? :P
CoV > CoH apparently :P
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I was surprised by that as well Rowrsie. But when I added CoH, CoV and CoX, City of Heroes still came out on top.