Official Thread for Brutes: Electric Shields

Moot_Point · 06-01-2006 08:48 AM

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what does AS stand for in this post?

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aid self

PorkchopXpress · 06-01-2006 09:25 AM

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what does AS stand for in this post?

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aid self

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From the context it looks to be referring to Assassin's Strike. As in multiple ones will bring you down. Well, no [censored] - that was a revelation.

I think the poster is pretty focused on either Warburg or Arena.

Birdbird · 06-01-2006 09:27 AM

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Wrong that's what I tested it to be. I ran into St. Martial with my lvl 40 Brute (1360 hp) with no badies around. I used Power Surge watched it crash and noted my 136 hp. (10%)

I don't trust the power descriptions, this was a controlled experiment by me. So unless I had a health tick kick in and raise me to 136 hp (after I set my info to appear ASAP) then I saw Power Surges crash to drop me to 10% of my health.

Just like I measured the end drain resistance in Static Shield to be 80%.

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I ran it and crashed multiple times with no one around me and I had a sliver of health, not 10%

PorkchopXpress · 06-01-2006 09:38 AM

My noticeable (as in when I freaked) crashes were a sliver also. Being a Perma-Unstop user from the way old days I am pretty used to dealing with crashes - especially the 10% hit point/no end variety. This was NOT 10% of my hit points left.

I'm thinking that we are looking at a bug here where it randomly drops to different levels.

Great, we may have just caused this to stay on Test for another week.

Birdbird · 06-01-2006 09:47 AM

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Great, we may have just caused this to stay on Test for another week.

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Wait, you mean they are still reading these?

Moot_Point · 06-01-2006 01:23 PM

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Great, we may have just caused this to stay on Test for another week.

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Wait, you mean they are still reading these?

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rotfl.... some days it does seem like no one is watching...

Speqter · 06-01-2006 01:37 PM

That sounds like a bug and you should start recording your total hp vs. hp after crash so it can get fixed. It should be a repeatable value.

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Has anyone verified there is toxic resistance in Power Surge (I don't trust the descriptions).

ArchLight · 06-01-2006 01:41 PM

I was running Power Surge and ran to prepare for the crash had toggled Rest and died fromt he crash. Think the HP buff happened but because i was resting and vulneable it did more damage.

No i did not have any debuffs on me no one attacked me. The EMP went pop an I died.

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PorkchopXpress · 06-01-2006 01:48 PM

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I was running Power Surge and ran to prepare for the crash had toggled Rest and died fromt he crash. Think the HP buff happened but because i was resting and vulneable it did more damage.

No i did not have any debuffs on me no one attacked me. The EMP went pop an I died.

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I'm gonna go waaaaay out on a limb here and guess that in this instance the drop was a lot lower than 10% of your hit points. Ouch - but on the good side this is a great way for the badge hunters to grab the undying badge.

Now that Arch has "officially" discovered this bug we can blame HIM for holding back I7 from the live servers.

Birdbird · 06-01-2006 03:55 PM

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That sounds like a bug and you should start recording your total hp vs. hp after crash so it can get fixed. It should be a repeatable value.

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Has anyone verified there is toxic resistance in Power Surge (I don't trust the descriptions).

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See now things like this is why the level bump SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO 40.

geombear · 06-01-2006 05:50 PM

whats the undying badge? for killing yourself? lol this is only the second method i've heard of to suicide (the other being energy transfer)

xxMURxx · 06-01-2006 08:43 PM

Nice to see you being yourself man, good show. Yeah, you probably wouldn't have seen any of the mobs that now placate and "AS" in a fashion...you, in the new zone. Now, quit being a [censored].

Fushicho · 06-01-2006 08:45 PM

[Broadcast]Electric mag: lvl 3 elec brute looking for mission team
[Broadcast]Halufo: Electric brute? You copied my idea!!
[Broadcast]Electric mag: lol
[Broadcast]Kill-awatt: no, you copied my idea!
[Broadcast]Stupid Test Brute: No, you copied mine!
[Broadcast]Yosef: you all copied meeeeeeeeeee
[Broadcast]Killawhat: Hey, I was here first!
[Broadcast]Circuitbreaker: I was the first elec brute.
[Broadcast]Bionic Man: well almost every 1 copied every 1 else so shut up and test em

Brickster · 06-01-2006 09:45 PM

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Nice to see you being yourself man, good show. Yeah, you probably wouldn't have seen any of the mobs that now placate and "AS" in a fashion...you, in the new zone. Now, quit being a [censored].

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If you're refering to the mobs in Grandville that use AS-style moves then fine, but I doubt that they can "AS for close to full amount through PS" and if they can then why didn't you bug it? As far as I know NPC mobs shouldn't have unresitable crits.

And please stop the childish name-calling. It helps nothing.

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ProcessedMeatMan · 06-01-2006 09:47 PM

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whats the undying badge? for killing yourself? lol this is only the second method i've heard of to suicide (the other being energy transfer)

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Absorb Pain has this ability as well.

geombear · 06-01-2006 09:50 PM

stalkers dont have unresistable crits either (in PvE), unfortunently

PorkchopXpress · 06-02-2006 07:50 AM

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Nice to see you being yourself man, good show. Yeah, you probably wouldn't have seen any of the mobs that now placate and "AS" in a fashion...you, in the new zone. Now, quit being a [censored].

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The wink means we were laughing WITH you, not AT you (well for the most part ).

And I apologize if it offends, but I still don't understand your reasoning. I've been throughout all of Grandville now but the top most levels of the Tower with my Corruptor who is much more Fragile than any /Elec Brute and I have been AS killed ONE time. What/where/who do you plan on fighting in PvE that is gonna MULTIPLE AS you through Power Surge? You plan on herding up outdoor spawns? Indoor instanced missions or mayhem missions? And if you knew the bosses could do it, why would you? It would be akin to herding up Sappers.

And being as how these mobs don't show up until Grandville, why in the world would that keep you from taking Power Surge UNTIL you reached the mobs that you fear will kill you through it (ie at 41)? Seems to me it would make more sense to use it in the levels leading up to these mobs than not use it around them if you are so concerned about that one small aspect.

Sure the drop will always bug people and keep them from taking it - same as Unstoppable - but I just don't understand the reasoning as put forth.

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Rejolt · 07-07-2006 03:54 PM

at level 48 with the 10 and 5 percent HP boost accolades my elec/elec has over 1700 hp. Surge going down left me with 270 or so hit points. That wouldn't be bad if I wasn't fully detoggled.

The only time have no inherent smashing/lethal resists really gets ya.

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