One shotting has got to end
By
Acanous_Quietus,
Posted on: 2005-12-07 01:38 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
One solution is to give everyone who has a chance of being one or 2 shotted plus perception powers and a likelihood to dodge AS....
Or to increase blaster controller or defender health.Whatever takes the toggles off in pvp is just stupid though,if that's the so called "stealth nerf"
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* They do 90% of Blaster Damage / 80% of Scrapper Damage. They do more damage than any other AT besides Blasters and Scrappers with their attacks.
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I thought they did the same damage as tanks, and less than brutes?
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* Stalkers' Primaries are primarily drawn from Scrappers' Primaries. Their powers have the same BIs as their Scrapper counterparts.
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Except their damage is 20% less, right?
That's like saying corruptors have the same BI's as blasters.
[... and don't scrappers have increase odds of crits or something?]
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* Stalkers' Secondaries are drawn primarily from Scrappers' Secondaries, and operate at exactly the same rates.
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That's deceptive, since the stalkers are operating with less hit points. The odds of two hits penetrating defenses are much better than the odds of three hits penetrating defenses.
Also, the regeneration set is percentage-based off of hitpoints, is it not? That makes the entire set proportionately less effective, even if the "rates" are the same.
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I didn't even think one-shotting was possible in COV.
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Then you might find this post interesting. They even put it on "film".
Controllers, Defenders, Masterminds and Stalkers all have low enough HP to be one-shotted by a Stalker's AS when the Stalker is damage capped. Some can be one-shotted with just AS + BU.
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I didn't even think one-shotting was possible in COV.
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Then you might find this post interesting. They even put it on "film".
Controllers, Defenders, Masterminds and Stalkers all have low enough HP to be one-shotted by a Stalker's AS when the Stalker is damage capped. Some can be one-shotted with just AS + BU.
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Controllers, Defenders and MMs can be one-shotted with AS+BU.
A solution to the problem could be:Upping the lvl that pvp zones play at.
That way everyone can afford to have the +perception powers...
Personally, I think if a Mob is not purple to you, he shouldn't be able to oneshot you ever. 90% maybe... But not enough that you can't pick yourself up and run for your life.
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I don't get the extreme danger in popping 4 reds and queing 2 buttons for a kill then superjumping or teleporting out of danger into a hidden state or phase shifting out of danger to rehide.
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If the target in question has the Leadership Pool active they'll have you dead before you can line up the AS. And many defenders and controllers take the Leadership powers.
Taking out that lone, oblivious hero is really super easy. You're correct on that. Taking out a smart hero who stays with his or her group is very difficult and extremely frustrating at times.
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If this has already been mentioned feel free to ignore me, but i didn't have the patience to read all 66 pages of posts.
Not every toon has the ability to block an AS like repellers/caners do.
I have a Dark Melee/Regen scrapper lvl 35. How does he stop stalkers? And don't even dare you mention taking tactics. I'm still sore over the whole perma-hasten nerf about people being "unfairly forced" to pick hasten for their builds just to be viable character options. I will NOT be "unfairly forced" to pick tactics just to combat the sneakiest of the sneaky backstabbin bastids known as stalkers *Stalkers, in all honestly, i salute you, you're a great concept, and i admire you a lot, i just hate being assassinated hehe* The good part about my build is i've yet to be one hit killed. I'm "just" tough enough to get my tuckus outta harms way popping IH and DP on the way. when half my life or more disappears, i'm outtie.
You force me to pick something so i can see stalkers coming, and i'm [censored] from now until the game goes defunct about permahasten getting nerfed.
I think the IR goggles are great. Also, I run around in the water. Stalkers can do a lot of sneaky things, but they can't change the laws of physics, and a physical body moving through water at any speed above negligible produces a wake. I see a wake coming at me at full speed, or suddenly appearing next to me, i don't ask questions, i pop the two aoe's i have, and if i don't unmask them, i'm gone. That's my solution. Run. If i can see them tho, AND target them, i fight, but i'm not waiting for 3 feet of steel to be piercing my spine to start crying foul.
What about in the middle of a fight? This is why i think stalkers at THE number one BEST support AT out there. Brutes, MM's, whateva are having a knockdown dragout brawl in the middle of a zone? They should be at risk to getting a blade in the back at the most inopportune moment. It's war. War is hell. People die. So will you. Nuff said.
DO NOT tell me my "option" is to be forced to pick a power i have no room for to stand a chance. All you ppl that got hasten nerfed boil my blood. Devs, mods, included. How anyone could read the description of that power and NOT pick it, defies every fiber of logic and reason in my being. That being said, i know it's a dead horse, don't think i'm starting a crusade, but i resent the very notion of the only viable option being FORCED to pick a power i DIDN'T need to solve a problem. That was your argument, it worked for you, we'll dust it off and re-use it and none shall cry foul.
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Scrappers have higher base damage then blasters, better defenses then stalkers and the ability to critical hit. As you said [ QUOTE ]
Where's the sacrifice?
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Yet I don't see you making threads on how "broken" they are in PVP and PVE. Math is a great thing but in the wrong hands it's also a neat magician trick people use to make others agree or prove a point when one never existed in the first place. The only thing I will agree on is that one shotting has got to go and the devs are already addressing that but the rest of your argument leaves much to be desired