Funny... all this logical thought about CoH and Statesman cant reply to any of it because it's correct.
Community = Logic
Statesman's Vision = Insanity
The do tend to 1) scatter and 2 ) stay at range.
Makes it fun for melee only types.
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The do tend to 1) scatter and 2 ) stay at range.
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Now all they need to do is apply that logic to all primarily ranged mobs in the game. A man with a rocket launcher should not run in and punch you at first oppertunity. He should stand back and shoot rockets at you.
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Funny... all this logical thought about CoH and Statesman cant reply to any of it because it's correct.
Community = Logic
Statesman's Vision = Insanity
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So let me get this straight.
If I said "Hey guys! I6 is going to raise the level cap to 100 and you get there 1 experience point at a time from level 53 Storm Elementals!" and no dev called me on it, it would automatically become true?
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Obviously you didnt get the point.... You must have been to busy kissing Statesmans [censored] to see it.
The community as a whole brings a sense of logic into the game. Things that we want that make sense. Statesman brings in things that do not make sense to us, the player. Things he says should make the game more fun, which ruin it.
Therefore:
Statesman = You will have more fun
Reality = It's NOT more fun
Thereby proving that at the VERY least Statesman is wrong about making the game more enjoyable. But maybe not that the community is more logical. Though if you look at 80% of the posts on the boards I dont think you would find to many people who are against bringing back perma-unstopable, perma-mog, and our old pets back. Not to mention rolling-back the ridiculous changes to my poor regen and my fire tank.
Issue 3 was truly a city of heroes.... Issue 5 is more a city of zeroes....
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Obviously you didnt get the point.... You must have been to busy kissing Statesmans [censored] to see it.
The community as a whole brings a sense of logic into the game. Things that we want that make sense. Statesman brings in things that do not make sense to us, the player. Things he says should make the game more fun, which ruin it.
Therefore:
Statesman = You will have more fun
Reality = It's NOT more fun
Thereby proving that at the VERY least Statesman is wrong about making the game more enjoyable. But maybe not that the community is more logical. Though if you look at 80% of the posts on the boards I dont think you would find to many people who are against bringing back perma-unstopable, perma-mog, and our old pets back. Not to mention rolling-back the ridiculous changes to my poor regen and my fire tank.
Issue 3 was truly a city of heroes.... Issue 5 is more a city of zeroes....
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Obviously, I must post more often to bring my percentage up.
I played my INV tank from late July on to present, and I would *never* want Perma-Unstoppable back--ruined the game.
The game's a lot better, in my opinion, since I5, especially where teams are concerned.
I am also convinced that when CoV hits live, everyone will understand I5 a lot better.
Mr. Lithuania
Jessica to Nathan in bed: "I'm not really bad, Isaac just drew me that way."
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Obviously you didnt get the point.... You must have been to busy kissing Statesmans [censored] to see it.
The community as a whole brings a sense of logic into the game. Things that we want that make sense. Statesman brings in things that do not make sense to us, the player. Things he says should make the game more fun, which ruin it.
Therefore:
Statesman = You will have more fun
Reality = It's NOT more fun
Thereby proving that at the VERY least Statesman is wrong about making the game more enjoyable. But maybe not that the community is more logical. Though if you look at 80% of the posts on the boards I dont think you would find to many people who are against bringing back perma-unstopable, perma-mog, and our old pets back. Not to mention rolling-back the ridiculous changes to my poor regen and my fire tank.
Issue 3 was truly a city of heroes.... Issue 5 is more a city of zeroes....
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Obviously, I must post more often to bring my percentage up.
I played my INV tank from late July on to present, and I would *never* want Perma-Unstoppable back--ruined the game.
The game's a lot better, in my opinion, since I5, especially where teams are concerned.
I am also convinced that when CoV hits live, everyone will understand I5 a lot better.
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I don't think everyone(all) is right.
1) Some (many?) understand most(all?) of the I5 changes already.
2) If they do not currently, CoV will only bring enlightenment if they:
a) get CoV
and
b) do PvP
and the enlightenment will only be to those changes related to PvP.
I do not believe that all the I5 changes were for CoV related PvP any more than I believe none of them were primarily because of it. (That is in a world without CoV some I5 changes would not have happened and some would have anyway.)
Hope I didn't mangle that too badly. I am sleepy.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Obviously you didnt get the point.... You must have been to busy kissing Statesmans [censored] to see it.
The community as a whole brings a sense of logic into the game. Things that we want that make sense. Statesman brings in things that do not make sense to us, the player. Things he says should make the game more fun, which ruin it.
Therefore:
Statesman = You will have more fun
Reality = It's NOT more fun
Thereby proving that at the VERY least Statesman is wrong about making the game more enjoyable. But maybe not that the community is more logical. Though if you look at 80% of the posts on the boards I dont think you would find to many people who are against bringing back perma-unstopable, perma-mog, and our old pets back. Not to mention rolling-back the ridiculous changes to my poor regen and my fire tank.
Issue 3 was truly a city of heroes.... Issue 5 is more a city of zeroes....
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Obviously, I must post more often to bring my percentage up.
I played my INV tank from late July on to present, and I would *never* want Perma-Unstoppable back--ruined the game.
The game's a lot better, in my opinion, since I5, especially where teams are concerned.
I am also convinced that when CoV hits live, everyone will understand I5 a lot better.
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I don't think everyone(all) is right.
1) Some (many?) understand most(all?) of the I5 changes already.
2) If they do not currently, CoV will only bring enlightenment if they:
a) get CoV
and
b) do PvP
and the enlightenment will only be to those changes related to PvP.
I do not believe that all the I5 changes were for CoV related PvP any more than I believe none of them were primarily because of it. (That is in a world without CoV some I5 changes would not have happened and some would have anyway.)
Hope I didn't mangle that too badly. I am sleepy.
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I was not referring to PvP.
And, I *meant* everyone, since even if folks don't have CoV, if they read the boards, or talk to folks in game, they'll eventually get the knowledge of the other game.
Mr. Lithuania
Jessica to Nathan in bed: "I'm not really bad, Isaac just drew me that way."
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The do tend to 1) scatter and 2 ) stay at range.
Makes it fun for melee only types.
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Now all they need to do is apply that logic to all primarily ranged mobs in the game. A man with a rocket launcher should not run in and punch you at first oppertunity. He should stand back and shoot rockets at you.
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I have actually noticed it creeping in a little (or am I goin mad(der)).
Give it time, AI changes are happening and more will happen.
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Obviously you didnt get the point.... You must have been to busy kissing Statesmans [censored] to see it.
The community as a whole brings a sense of logic into the game. Things that we want that make sense. Statesman brings in things that do not make sense to us, the player. Things he says should make the game more fun, which ruin it.
Therefore:
Statesman = You will have more fun
Reality = It's NOT more fun
Thereby proving that at the VERY least Statesman is wrong about making the game more enjoyable. But maybe not that the community is more logical. Though if you look at 80% of the posts on the boards I dont think you would find to many people who are against bringing back perma-unstopable, perma-mog, and our old pets back. Not to mention rolling-back the ridiculous changes to my poor regen and my fire tank.
Issue 3 was truly a city of heroes.... Issue 5 is more a city of zeroes....
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Obviously, I must post more often to bring my percentage up.
I played my INV tank from late July on to present, and I would *never* want Perma-Unstoppable back--ruined the game.
The game's a lot better, in my opinion, since I5, especially where teams are concerned.
I am also convinced that when CoV hits live, everyone will understand I5 a lot better.
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I don't think everyone(all) is right.
1) Some (many?) understand most(all?) of the I5 changes already.
2) If they do not currently, CoV will only bring enlightenment if they:
a) get CoV
and
b) do PvP
and the enlightenment will only be to those changes related to PvP.
I do not believe that all the I5 changes were for CoV related PvP any more than I believe none of them were primarily because of it. (That is in a world without CoV some I5 changes would not have happened and some would have anyway.)
Hope I didn't mangle that too badly. I am sleepy.
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I was not referring to PvP.
And, I *meant* everyone, since even if folks don't have CoV, if they read the boards, or talk to folks in game, they'll eventually get the knowledge of the other game.
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sorry, my bad. But I still don't see how it is possible everyone will get a better understanding of I5. Perhaps it is the "always/never/everyone/noone statements tend to be the false ones" they hammered into my skull in school.
Maybe I overread or underread. I can see almost everyone would get the motive for most of I5. But really, what did Croatoa have to do with CoV? See what I mean? 
Not looking for a fight.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Ok, you're right about Croatoa. I tend to even forget that the zone was added with all the hoo-rah over the rest of I5. Point taken.
Mr. Lithuania
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Ok, you're right about Croatoa. I tend to even forget that the zone was added with all the hoo-rah over the rest of I5. Point taken.
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I love Croatoa. You (not just you, Tom, but all) must go there if you have not. Even if exemplared. (Bummer for those too low to see Croatoa and Striga.)
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total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
.Greetings!
.One quick observation I'd like to make here, in reading through this (and many other) threads where 'fun' is discussed.
.It always seems that the point is made of how small a percentage of the playerbase are forum posters. This is generally used to suggest that the opinions of the forum posters, especially with regards to things such as fun and playability, are invalid.
.Let me suggest in response that the Dev Team is a far, far, smaller percentage of the playerbase than the forum posters. I am far more willing to believe a forum opinion of what is fun or challenging that I am the Dev Team - the forum is a vastly larger section of the playerbase.
.Just an observation.
.Good luck and Good Hunting!
"Strength of numbers is the delight of the timid. The valiant in spirit glory in fighting alone."
- Mahatma Gandhi
Still CoHzy after all these years...
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.One quick observation I'd like to make here, in reading through this (and many other) threads where 'fun' is discussed.
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Last time I had looked at the posted subscriber numbes, an individual poster in the forum accounted for 0.0005% of the actual playerbase.
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Last time I had looked at the posted subscriber numbes, an individual poster in the forum accounted for 0.0005% of the actual playerbase.
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.Greetings!
.An interesting statistic, and one I have no reason whatsoever to question.
.From this, we can see that any single individual is a vanishingly small portion of the playerbase of the game.
.Of course, there is (as far as I know) no real way to tell if an attitude or feeling shared through the posters is shared in the same proportions as theough the entire playerbase. Save, of course, that the playerbase is likely to be more positive towards the game than those on the boards - after all, at least some of the folks on the boards are here only because they wish to complain about something or other.
.How much more positive, is, I think, hard to judge.
.My main point, in any case, is that different people have different concepts of fun, and I wanted to suggest that the smaller group you draw your opinions on what might be 'fun' is, the farther off you are likely to be. Not assuredly to be, merely probably. Asking 100 people is more likely to give you an accurate result than asking 10, and asking 1000 is more likely accurate than 100, etc.
.And that if you get contradictory results, trying to come up with (or not get away from) a solution that allows both sides to achive 'fun' is likely to be more satisfactory than a solution that pleases only one.
.Good luck and Good Hunting!
"Strength of numbers is the delight of the timid. The valiant in spirit glory in fighting alone."
- Mahatma Gandhi
Still CoHzy after all these years...
IN THAT CASE WHY THE SUPPRESSION WITH TRAVEL..ITS EMBRASSING MY TANK CAN NOT JUMP BACK UP TO THE CAT WALK TO SAVE A SQUISHIEE FROM A LUI BECAUSE MY AURA HAS TAUNTED A MINION WHO FOLLOWED ME DOWN.
SUPPRESSION WAS TO STOP THE JOUSTING IN PVP...PLAIN AND SIMPLE...CANT WE HAVE SUPER POWERS THAT WORK WITH SUPER TRAVEL. PLEASE FIX THE PVE SUPPRESSION...LEAVE PVP AS U SEE FIT.
TY
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IN THAT CASE WHY THE SUPPRESSION WITH TRAVEL..ITS EMBRASSING MY TANK CAN NOT JUMP BACK UP TO THE CAT WALK TO SAVE A SQUISHIEE FROM A LUI BECAUSE MY AURA HAS TAUNTED A MINION WHO FOLLOWED ME DOWN.
SUPPRESSION WAS TO STOP THE JOUSTING IN PVP...PLAIN AND SIMPLE...CANT WE HAVE SUPER POWERS THAT WORK WITH SUPER TRAVEL. PLEASE FIX THE PVE SUPPRESSION...LEAVE PVP AS U SEE FIT.
TY
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The capslock suppression is broken, could someone please bug it?
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IN THAT CASE WHY THE SUPPRESSION WITH TRAVEL..ITS EMBRASSING MY TANK CAN NOT JUMP BACK UP TO THE CAT WALK TO SAVE A SQUISHIEE FROM A LUI BECAUSE MY AURA HAS TAUNTED A MINION WHO FOLLOWED ME DOWN.
SUPPRESSION WAS TO STOP THE JOUSTING IN PVP...PLAIN AND SIMPLE...CANT WE HAVE SUPER POWERS THAT WORK WITH SUPER TRAVEL. PLEASE FIX THE PVE SUPPRESSION...LEAVE PVP AS U SEE FIT.
TY
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The capslock suppression is broken, could someone please bug it?
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It was unnecessary anyway. Taunt aura suppression was removed in issue 5. Only attacks suppress now.
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The changes in I5 had very little to do with PvP and a lot to do with boring PvE. It's that simple. No conspiracy there - I think I've stated this several times.
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I was having fun.....
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Try Fighting the Cabal - very different AI there.
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You talking about those flying things my blaster blew out of the sky over Croatoa?
Usually all the AI looks the same to my blaster:
Target, burning target, down burning target, fading defeated burning target.
They mocked my usual pattern. They were brougt in line with the other AI.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.