Controller update


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I'm not quite sure what the quote means, myself. Does it mean Pickle is out of patience but if you wait a while it will be back? Isn't that just asking other people to have patience? Or does it mean Pickle can only be patient for brief moments and everyone just has to accept any violence and bile that comes their way, and is an apology for bad behavior? Or is it just an off-hand comment on the AoE nerf and actually has nothing to do with Pickle's temperament?

Either way, I still think Cuppa's comment is one of the best. If you don't want the flames, don't aggro. Or whatever it was. But I expect I've been relegated to the a$$ki$$er camp and therefore my opinion isn't to be valued.


 

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But I expect I've been relegated to the a$$ki$$er camp and therefore my opinion isn't to be valued.

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Your opinion is valued. I need something to flame for being a$$ki$$ing.


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Heh heh, sorry Ras. I'm still in "apologist" mode for my rage-splurge from the end of last month. Politics in America have been slowly driving me further and further away from sanity, with misinformation, empty rhetoric, and bile spread across the country so far and so deep we might never get ourselves out. At least I vented on here instead of blowing up local baptist churches.


 

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Either way, I still think Cuppa's comment is one of the best. If you don't want the flames, don't aggro. Or whatever it was. But I expect I've been relegated to the a$$ki$$er camp and therefore my opinion isn't to be valued.

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There's a world of difference between someone who liked the I5 controller changes and a brown noser. The latter is a sycophantic and wrong, the former is merely wrong.


 

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Uh, thanks for the kind words?


 

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I am actually okay with most of the new changes. There are a few that I don't care for because they are greatly unbalanced with the game as it has become, but there are other changes I am happy about. I'm waiting in anticipation to see how they try to fix some of the new balance issues. For the most part, I am happy with the changes. There are a few that I am not happy with (controller and tanker concerns mostly) as well as a few that baffle me (phase shift comes to mind). Still, there is a lot of stuff in the new patch that I can easily deal with.


 

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Thanks for all of your suggestions in the Dev Corner. I've noted them all down for analysis.

There's no immediate deadline for changes Archetype wide, though individual power sets might need attention sooner. I just wanted to say that nothing at the moment is set in stone.

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Translation (from DevSpeak to English):

I read a small amount of the whining you all posted in the Dev Corner, and have elected to completely ignore all legitimate issues.

Although we're not rolling back the changes to controllers completely, it's come to my attention that some powersets combined with Containment damage are too much fun to play. Therefore, please expect a huge nerf to the containment damage and/or the fun powers.


(Statesman - just kidding okay? Don't nerf me)


 

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Whats the deal with resurrection? All you forum legends like to mess with the boards or what?


 

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There's no immediate deadline for changes Archetype wide, though individual power sets might need attention sooner. I just wanted to say that nothing at the moment is set in stone.

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And, six months later, welcome to the Blastroller. Funny, how things change.

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I just came back today, after a 6 month hiatus.

What changes have been made to controllers, espcially MC?

I left after being tired of being frustrated.
So can MCs solo yet? I've got a level 43 that's been sitting idle for some time that I'd LIKE to be able to use.


 

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Oh boy you missed a doozy. Ok controllers have been given an innate ability called containment. Once a target is held, immob, disoriented etc, any damage we do the the mob will be doubled. In exchange for this damage boost, all mass holds had their duration cut by half and their recharge time upped by 25% I believe it was. You cannot have multiple pets anymore except for fire imps which are 3 now. They perma until killed or or released using a nifty a nifty little command. Did I miss anything guys?


 

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Oh boy you missed a doozy. Ok controllers have been given an innate ability called containment. Once a target is held, immob, disoriented etc, any damage we do the the mob will be doubled. In exchange for this damage boost, all mass holds had their duration cut by half and their recharge time upped by 25% I believe it was. You cannot have multiple pets anymore except for fire imps which are 3 now. They perma until killed or or released using a nifty a nifty little command. Did I miss anything guys?

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Duration cut 40%, recharge DOUBLED.

But the short answer is that, yes, your MC can solo now.

Quite well, in fact.

If you respec into the fire pool, you will do significant amounts of damage. Significant enough that it will likely be nerfed, mind you, but for now, it's quite nice.


 

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Oh boy you missed a doozy. Ok controllers have been given an innate ability called containment. Once a target is held, immob, disoriented etc, any damage we do the the mob will be doubled. In exchange for this damage boost, all mass holds had their duration cut by half and their recharge time upped by 25% I believe it was. You cannot have multiple pets anymore except for fire imps which are 3 now. They perma until killed or or released using a nifty a nifty little command. Did I miss anything guys?

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Yes that 80% of the trollers loathe States now.


Thanks, NC Soft, for closing my favorite game ever without warning and with plenty of life still left in it, and thus relieving me of the burden of EVER wanting to buy, try or even hear about another game from your company. Will my decision make a dent, or persuade them in anyway, shape or form? Nope, obviously not. Don't care. NC Soft is dead to me. ~ PsyFox

 

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If you respec into the fire pool, you will do significant amounts of damage. Significant enough that it will likely be nerfed, mind you, but for now, it's quite nice.

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i havent found it to overpowering.. but i'm not sure anymore what the devs use for determing changes anymore... they used data mining and we all scratch our heads at the results...they play the game...and we scratch our heads at results... thye read the boards..hmm maybe... one thing is for sure if they make a change all of a sudden theres a cry of "u guys rox" and "stop the whining" posts --- when the boards where previously quite.... im leaning towards either a coin toss or the old reliable toss a dart at the board..... but then again im cinical these days the RL is kickin my tail


 

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As a Mind Controller, I'd like to say that I'm quite happy with I5. Also, my 43 Tank is fine with it too. I did respec out Phase Shift though as I found it quite useless only lasting 30 seconds. Of course it was only good for creating a pretty light show as I could safely buzz Hami while phased. I kid. It came in handy in the abandoned sewers too.


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Yes that 80% of the trollers loathe States now.



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Most of the trollers I heard post already loathed him. :-)

Well, as a MC, it looks like a got a decent boost, even with the AoE hold nerfing. I went online and was surprised by the double damage (didn't understand what was making it happen). I have enough AoE holds so that I was able to keep the enemy reasonably well locked down, and now I can actually killed them off and not fall asleep.

I can see how other trollers would be mad, though, with the pet nerf. I'll have to get my fire troller up to level 32 to see how she plays.


 

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Nah, the pet nerf isn't the problem, at least for me. I'm ok with the pet nerf. I just think there's got to be some way of producing the same effect that they did without increasing recharge times on everything.

That seems to be their solution to everything balance wise, which in turn increases the pressure for people to take hasten, which in turn causes more powers to be rebalanced with hasten in mind, and the circle begins again


 

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Thanks again Statesman for destroying Fire Controllers.

Recharge times and how long effects last has to be one of your best nerfs yet.

Nice having 3 Imps when I had 9+ before. I can't even fight minions now without being slaughtered. My holds don't even last long enough to kill anything.


 

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Thanks again Statesman for destroying Fire Controllers.

Recharge times and how long effects last has to be one of your best nerfs yet.

Nice having 3 Imps when I had 9+ before. I can't even fight minions now without being slaughtered. My holds don't even last long enough to kill anything.

[/ QUOTE ] What lvl minions? If there not purple then you may to rethink your build and/or playstyle.


 

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Thanks again Statesman for destroying Fire Controllers.

Recharge times and how long effects last has to be one of your best nerfs yet.

Nice having 3 Imps when I had 9+ before. I can't even fight minions now without being slaughtered. My holds don't even last long enough to kill anything.

[/ QUOTE ] What lvl minions? If there not purple then you may to rethink your build and/or playstyle.

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Not my experience either with my Fire troller. He's stronger than ever and I have been soloing pre pets without a problem. Now that I have pets my troller is taking down things faster than ever.


 

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02/11/05 07:25 PM

its 7 months past the orginal post...why are we still letting this live??


 

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02/11/05 07:25 PM

its 7 months past the orginal post...why are we still letting this live??

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Redname posts nevery die. They just fade away...

...and occasionally get necro-rezzed.