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I love bringing my Son/Son to MSRs. Not only can you protect from stuns w/your big bubble, you can also cast Clarify on your teammates (not to mention shield them) to protect from sleeps as well. Clarify + Dispersion Field should keep all your teammates very safe, as long as you don't get hit yourself. Unfortunately, you *will* get slept, and prolly quite a bit, so bring BFs. Any time I announce I'm a Son/Son on an MSR, I'm snapped up in a hurry.

What's more awesome than my main? 8 "main" toons at once, that's what. When I19 first launched, everyone was dusting off their namesake toons to alpha slot them, and I got to run the Apex/Tin duo w/pretty much everyone playing their "mains". Even though it was mostly our first time through those, we pwned both TFs, got MoApex and only missed out on MoTin cuz of the mines.

I think +rech doesn't do that much for your build. Sure, slightly faster FR, LS, etc is nice, but you can already get those down pretty fast w/o all the +rech sets, which you'll still have plenty of w/the LotGs and the Coercive set.

I'd switch out to 6 Lockdowns for BoI & Glacier, add a 6th Coercive for AA, 6-slot Blood Mandate for Jack & 'Nado, Thunderstrikes in LS & IB, etc, to get your ranged def capped and AoE def in the 30s. Yes, you'll be playing up close w/AA. You won't however actually be in melee, i.e. 7', much, since AA has a 25' rad. At least try to see how far you can take your ranged/AoE def bonuses in a build and see if you like it better than your rech-oriented build. Just as a reference, my own Ice/Storm has 46.3% ranged, 35.3 AoE def and FR recharges in 18.3 sec. I find an extra 3s of recharge is a very good exchange for softcapped ranged def.

Frostbite should have more proc love. You can stick in 3 dam procs and the Grav Anchor hold proc. Finish w/Acc/End's or a Posi's A/D/E if you have enough global +to hit/acc. If 6 slotting, add a Detonation A/D/E.

Where to find slots: I'd single slot IS, CJ & O2 Boost. Yes, Slick is your signature power growing up, but at 50, I hardly touch it, esp since I spam Frostbite to let Tornado do its thing (plus Frostbite w/the procs do a lot of damage & holds). In fact, even w/just 1 50 rech slotted, it's nearly perma at 33s. I also get away w/4-5 slotting FR for max rech, but either no proc, or only the Achilles. If you choose to switch out, say Frost Breath, for Snow Storm, that's another 3-4 slots you can free up.

Oh, and plan on the Cardiac boost. The end redux from that is a godsend. Until then, your end bar is going to be crying a lot, esp w/AA & SM underslotted for end redux. In fact, I wouldn't even plan on the Coercive set for AA until you get Cardiac, instead maximizing its end redux first (frankenslot for end redux, confuse & procs).

Right, but Hurricane also has a chance to KB, which afaik *is* covered by -KB IOs. That's the thing that puts us on our backs, not the repel aura, right? And the defender version at least is +8.3 KB (@5% chance) so you should need 12 pts of -KB to withstand it.

Yup, Fake Nemmies, Storm powers (Katie TF), Pylons, Carnie MI phantasm summons (w/their decoy both hitting you w/ET), quite a few things. If they hit, anyway, and my def is high enough where it's not usually an issue. Still, adding an extra 4-8 points wouldn't hurt, if you can find the space.

Regarding DDR on WP, the only times I've really had trouble w/my DB/WP (S/L capped) is when I jump in a big spawn of Romans before anyone else, and have to hold serve for an extended period of time. If the rest of the team follows quickly after, I've never had an issue, even though my def is long in the red, because my regen can keep up. And even alone, as long as I have SoW to pop, I'm fine.

I guess if I were looking to solo the ITF, I'd much rather have my DM/SD do it, but for most situations, my /WP does just fine, even w/o DDR. Not to say my defenses aren't taken down, often, but that's why you have layered defenses as WP (or Invul, or SD for that matter).

As for Invul specifically, 75% S/L resists against mostly lethal mobs seems like a pretty good mix, DDR or no. I haven't run my Invul scrapper through the ITF yet, but my Invul tank obviously has zero problems w/it, and maybe as a better corollary, my Stone tank out of Granite has capped S/L/E/N and around 50% DDR and has zero problems (I rarely hit Granite any more). Sure, more HPs for the tank & Rooted for more regen, but I would think an Invul scrapper w/higher S/L resists, and likely higher def #s w/mobs in range or Invinc would be almost comparable against Romans, if not the all the Nicti spawns.

ELA is very meh, much like Fire, until you get your defenses going, then it can become sorta godly. S/L (E/N) capped resist bases sets are amazingly sturdy, even w/no DDR. Hell, just get your S/L def to around 30% and you'll notice a *huge* difference.

Depends on how many mobs are hit. If you're getting close to the cap of 10, ET is very, very effective. KD's nice too, tho Axe has enough of those. My only concern is being out of AAO range to maximize ET's cone.

Tweaking my SD/Axe a bit, I've been thinking that I'd really love to fit in ET for more AoE goodness and the most disposable power seems to be... Cleave. Seems like blasphemy, I know, but consider: I have a full ST chain w/o Cleave, the cone is tiny narrow, and Gash & Swoop both have better DPAs than Cleave anyway. If you can reliably hit 2 mobs w/Cleave, you're better off w/it, but I think it's not worth the time to try to line it up.

So is Cleave skippable? Thoughts?

SM's DPA isn't that much lower than SP, and is certainly more than 50% of Smite, so if you can hit 2 or more mobs, it's pretty much always worth it to include SM. Now, if you're wasting time positioning to hit that 2nd mob, not so much, but hitting 2 w/SM should be very easy. Trying to line up for 3 or more might not be worth your time.

Considering how AoE poor DM is, I'd never give up on SM.

Funny, how many of those I rolled in I0, and deleted soon after...

Invul/SS Tank - Deleted
Fire/Energy Tank - Brought to 50
AR/Dev - Deleted
Fire/Dev - Dev was the shizzle back before ED when you could just 6-slot for damage w/TD. 300% fireballs before BU.
Energy/Energy Blaster - still getting by
Fire/Kin Controller - Fire/Rads were also quite the vogue, even back then. Neither combo has faded much.
Pure Emps - Tried so many Emp/* combos, deleted them all.
FF/Energy - Same for FF/*. Son & Cold were more fun since you also had debuffs to play with.
Darkity Darks of All Flavors - Tried & deleted several attemps at a D3. Finally got one in the 40s, but as a Dark/Ice.
ScrapperPowerSet/Regen - Kat/Regen for me. Those were the days.
Spines/Dark - Still think it's better than Spines/Fire. I mean, sure /Fire does a bit more damage, but Spines/Dark does *enough*, plus has far better survivability.