Wassabi
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Looks good.
Id slot some recharge into acid mortar and another end redux in the upgrades... you'll appreciate that the first time you have to resummon in combat...
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Nope... it's just especially painful for DP/Kin...
I generally stick with the regular ammo, the KB does more for mitigation than any other effects solo... while teaming with another DP/Kin however, we'd swap between cryo and chem for stacking of either slows of damage neutering (which both stack well with siphon power/speed respectively) to great effect.
I picked up hasten in my early teens, just to get up the attacks faster... and one should never underestimate suppressive fire... slotting or otherwise.
It's a pain, but it will be worth it... Just remember... Im a Kin... kins bloom late! -
Id also move Charged Armor to 41.
Resist's are factored in prior to BG splitting damage (and then bot resists get applied, or so I believe, I am sure I will be corrected if I am mistaken)... making resist armor that much more powerful on a MM... and watching your survivability jump.. atleast for a tank-mind. -
I honestly never needed stamina on my Bots/Traps... And that is with Tanker-minding... pools (speed, presence, medicine, leadership, Mu).
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I tank-mind with mine anything that moves, without tough/weave, and even manage to toss in self heals from medicine pool during fights with relative ease... and that's just with FFG and Prot bots (slotted for def).
It's really not needed... by any strech of the imagination.
If you were trying to to a Def based MM, sure, but then I'd be a Thugs/Traps with leadership, cj, Scorp and weave....... 49.2 before enforcer buffs....
I suddenly understand all the thugs/traps...
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Not really.
I went speed, leadership, medicine, presence, mu personally.
My prot bots are slotted for def, so bubbles, FFG, aura IOs, their def is right up there.
I however, live off of bodyguard mode and Mu sheild... never needed anything more. -
Quote:Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
Good job. I should stop drinking before looking at builds.
That does that mean I shouldn't be making them while being baked?
Cuz I don't think I could do as good a job if I was sober looking at the creator... -
I should note: that Zepher's set in SB will be a severe deterant to keep people for asking for YOUR SB as the run speed increase will make them feel like they are on crack as compared to unenhanced.
This could be a good thing OR a bad thing depending on HOW you think about it... >;-> -
Coming from a scrapper, you will feel right at home in the thick of it then to get the most out of /kin ( your own FS love)... as well as an almost, if not slotted right, full bar of endurance every application.
I tend to build around a fast recharge build, it makes a /kin an out right powerhouse in attack chains but as well as spamming yourself full on health and end at your own whim.
My "starter" build (no purp or pvp) went as such...
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Quote:THIS!Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Illusion will get you backup singers...
...and an outstanding stage manager...
...and a couple of roadies.
Wha...?
<.<
>.>
(I was just going to make a post about this, except substitute dancers/for singers)
Heck, a Thugs MM with the right secondary would be Kylie with street rat backup dancers pet /dance em
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Your slotting seems to revolve around /end recovery... which for a kin is a big waste... and to a point, so are the power picks leading up to Stamina... I can see the need before lvl 35, but after, for me, it's wasting power picks that could more effectively up other areas of my build be it defense, travel, leadership, etc. Of course there are two sides to the debate of stamina on a kin... After, 5 years... I never found a need, never took it on a kin, never will, (and my first char was a grav/kin... and yes, it sucked until I hit 35, but never had an issue since - 35 just becomes the goal/challenge).
I usually will highly recommend hasten for most builds, and a kin would be no different, one power speeds up everything else... that's the one that gets my little green circle of repeat.
Find another slot for suppressive fire, get the recharge bonus, it's silly not to.
IR takes blessing of the zeph... find another slot if your working on ranged def and make it happen.
The hami in sprint confuses meh. -
I took DP/Kin... Kin has great synrgy with the debuffs of DP... Siphon speed and Cryo, Siphon Power and Chem.... With two DP/Kin teamed, the mobs are pretty much cake, choose how you want to deal with them, either slow them or damage debuff and have much fun.
It's hard to toss the KB of regular rounds out the window sometimes though... Just fun watching them all get knocked around. -
To disagree slightly...
Petrifying Gaze, while not as spectacular as Soulstorm, is half the recharge, shorter cast, and if ever so slightly cheaper in endurance.
Although Widow seems to fit what most people see as theme, I generally take Mu for Energy over Negative resist, cone immob and a wonderful party toy in Thunder Strike.
Besides, ever seen a volcano erupting? Lava and Red Lightning everywhere! Google Iceland's volcano for pics.
And something about how Electric Shackles animates on the target seems slightly sadistic, the hold is even worse, electric chains holding the sacrifice!!!
But widow's hold is sexy.... -
Quote:And that's why I greatly... GREATLY stress group TP for Ninjas as it's done wonders for my ninja/storm; the challenge to controlling them becomes painless and mindless; like said ninjas.Originally Posted by Negate
Ninja is a nice combo as well but very risky. I've been told no one deals ST dmg like Ninjas though...controlling them sometimes can be a "challenge" to put it mildly.
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lvl pact your own chars? same account? New trick?
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I have a ninja/storm... I took everyones knowledge about how unruly the ninjas are prior to making it to heart and decided upon team TP to make the micro managing of said ninjas, easier to deal with... and it has, to the point that I rarely have to hit a macro to command them, just TP the group into the next group, you get full BG, they take down everything because they are in melee already... drop a few storm debuffs and Im good to go... and a Team TP into a large group with hurricane going might sound like a horrible idea, but it has it's uses.... I won't use that tactic OFTEN, but occasionally.... when I am in the mood to watch mobs and minions scatter in all directions... and floor a boss acc at the same time....
I highly recommend ninja/storm, out of all my MMs, it's the most fun to play and the least boring while allowing for maximum mayhem. -
Quote:Yes, I have macro's for all of those that also substitute the names of said person as long as they are targeted.Originally Posted by TrueMetal
Do you thank the blaster or scrapper every time he kills an enemy? Do you thenk the empath/thermal/paindom everytime he heals you? Do you thank the tank everytime he takes the alpha? Do you thank the debuffers everytime they neutralize a spawn?
Of course, as such, I also require that I am thanked for all single/group holds, immobilizes, and the occasional creative wormhole, as well as making sure I thank myself for all buffs and heals/end that I give myself.
I made a seperate channel for all said thank you's and welcomes so that people who are that needy can be properly thanked without interupting the flow of steamrolling. -
9 seconds...
It goes a lot further on Ship Raids.
Point made.
You may be on your way.
Of course with ship raids, you could argue there will be multiple /kins so the max will have been met... of course, if you been to a ship raid, massive mobs, for 16 players generally...
Lets take odds that two of them are kins, the spread of mobs is still so far reaching that not every player will get hit by every application, so being able to cast it twice as fast as a 23 second kin, well, your just adding gravy to a raid.
Yep, I know all about the game, and esp all about kins, first char, first 50, I also know that playstyles don't always mix, like yours and mine, I however won't bash you over the head with my superiority nor a newbs in order to enforce that "My point is the right way to think!"
I've seen your builds, and I've seen mine. There is a fundamental difference in how we play and utilize characters.
Heck, at one point I believe you told me you didn't like my using brawl to 4 slot a kinetic crash set for defense and then I saw you do it in a build of your own. Your hypocracy is noted. We don't need to converse anymore. -
I miss the days of the "Stun Proc" IO working on players after slotting it into SB.
"Sure, you want SB in the middle of a battle, ABSOLUTELY!"
"Opps, I guess you won the proc lottery on that one. It will wear off in a few seconds."
I SB those who need SB on teams, I don't answer to people who beg or constantly send me messages or have it on a macro everytime it wears off, I am not going to SB your butt when we are standing at the entrance or when there is 1 minion left and we will be heading to the next mission.
I have, at one point, respec'd it out of my build, people in this game rely on it TOOO MUCH as a crutch, if you can't get the job done without SB, maybe you are in over your head or should rethink YOUR slotting, but as for me, Im too busy tossing out FS, holding down groups, tossing out heals to be worried that for 10 seconds YOU didnt have SB on you.
At this point in time however, I do have the power, it is slotted for end rec, and I still refuse to SB people who constantly ask, you get 1 warning and then you're cut off... unless your a stone tank. Other than that, SB is used randomly on people in fights who are running low on END and I am capable of seeing who those people are without prodding, that being said, doesnt mean they are always in range and I refuse to be some sort of SB delivery boy.
I'll admit it, my mind is shot lately, and I can't remember what exactly it was I was going to do after the next thing on my mind, I just make it up as I go. -
And thus, you manage to let the cat out of the bag for those of us who figured this out on our own.
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Stacking possibly? Why would you not factor that into the equation? If FS didn't have a cap on targets hit, sure, who'd need recharge, but it does, thus the faster I can fire off FS on as many groups as possible, the closer I am to the damage cap as well as maintaining it with ease.
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Very first mastermind...
I always recommend thugs/pain. Easy enough that you won't find yourself discouraged when it generally becomes tedious and painful for most other combinations. -
Quote:Tell me you did not just say that about FS and recharge....Originally Posted by plainguy
Kin powers are pretty fast recharge so having Fulcrum Shift at 9 seconds or 23 seconds does not make a difference when it last 45 seconds.
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Do tell, what other awesome kin stuff might you be doing that would interfere? And I say this in jest mostly. While transference isnt just youre friend, it's a groups friend, other than the heal and FS when up, the occassional ID.... most your time is spent outside the kin pool!
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Ive never taken stamina with any /kin... that being said, I could see taking it until 35 and respecing out, after transference, Stamina is a ffa action, just hit the tap and fill up the cup. On a build with hasten and 2 50 recharge IOs, your looking at 10 second recharge, my current DP/kin can pop it every 7.27 without any siphon speeds stacked, drops to 6.35 with 3 stacked... minimal.. but the point being, 3 power picks to achieve what you could do with 1 power, and heck, miss every once in a while, its not that big a deal, you couldnt have blown all your END in 6 seconds.
I suppose it's nice to have that little bit of backup, but at a point its like wearing a parachute to go hang gliding.