Voided_Soul

What we see here is further proof that something needs to be changed.

No offense to the OP but, psi/em....
Its almost always psi/em or /regen scrappers

There is no originality left in coh pvp, they should have chucked v 2.0 out the door when castle left & tried to hit him in the *** with it instead of the door.

Having a zone or arena full of basically only 2 different toons is almost as bad as DR TS HD.

I've only been on 2 toons since issue 20 because of the grindfest mentality that we have been 'blessed' with.

Friday:multiple mapservers, and disconnects during, and with the forming of baf's & lambda.
Tfs were attempted or formed in co-op zones only, rwz , cimerora, midnighters club, and pocket d.
logged out for the night in fire base zulu to finish progress on day job badge which was at 97.34 progress .

Saturday: logged in on same character to find that charcater in cap at the black market, and progress missing on fire base zulu day job badge which now reads it at 79.26.
ok, no big deal, just take a few days longer for that one now.
Did several runs of baf & lambda until the time for the hamidon raids, again disconnects, mapserves, other people beside myself being randomly dropped from team.
At one instance of the whole team being dropped i too started in cimerora , and ended up in that unknown persons level 41 non cimeroran mission.
Tried to form again, disconnect, loaded back in in the 2nd instance of cimerora, attempted to rejoin the event, ended up on my own map 'steal lore from the circle' mission from operative grillo, which is a mission in nerva. next disconnect ended up on someones council sewer map after disconnecting while trying to reform from midnighters club.

..off to the hamidon raids.. we formed up using the league system in the hive.
One disconnect after mapserve at the end of the first raid at the door to eden, the 53 merits chosen from defeating hami no longer there.
ok, joined in for the second raidat the kill of hamidon disconnected with the reward window popped up, loaded back in , and it was gone.
I did several more baf , and a few lambda for the rest of the night. i disconnectedat the last one upon exit , and did not bother to go to day job spot, instead letting it crash out in midnighter club.

Sunday: loaded same character in, character was in rwz3 this time....
attempted to start more trails than actually got to start due to crashes.
At one point ending up on another level 41's map as they were escorting a hostage out.
At another ending up on someones level 48 rikti tip mission.
And ...another on a level 50's council sewer map.
Attempted the 'slideshow' red side hamidon raid, got through to the end, chose the merits, exited the abyss, attempted to enter the abyss 2, froze up , mapserved & disconnected at the sub in grandville(with super speed & combat jumping on).
Loaded back in with flight on hovering above the spawn point for hamidon in the abyss 1 with no merits from the raid , and additional merits(from3544 to 2696) salvage(regular & incarnate), and recipies missing.

I too have several times gotten the corrupted file notice as others have mentioned in here.

I have also noticed crashes , and drops in framerate of 10 f.p.s or more with powers like barrier from incarnate destiny slot, judgement ion, and the same person with electric control kept crashing on a baf when attempting to cast the gremlin pets.

also, i've run a combined 43 baf & lambda since isuue 20 ( 25 baf, 18 lambda) all but the last time the reward was uncommon, last time was a common. nice rng there.
As i write this virtue has crashed twice in the past 2 hours since getting home from work, makes me not want to even play.

Same as the majority here, that powers worked the same as in PvE.
Take certain viable AT's into PvP now that were useful , and good before, and you can't help feeling that I13 was just done to punish that part of the community =(

Giving an i 12 button, while nice for arena, would leave zones in the shambles of the crap changes that were forced upon us.
While arena is good for tournament stlye play, and the only thing i ever used it for before the changes, to test builds with friends, open zone is what was always more fun for me.

There should be no difference in how a toon performs from PvP vs. PvE.
Every AT has a role & it needs to be changed back to that.
No one should have to learn a different system to compete, having thier toons play the way they do in PvE IS the first step to getting people to stay in the zones with something they are comfortable already playing.

While i never used arena before except only to test builds with friends, like everyone else, its good that we can turn off most of what was forced upon us in I13

As for zone, nothing, its completly ruined & more unbalanced than ever.

There should be no difference between PvP & PvE, every AT has its strengths & weaknesses, and consequently should know the role of the toon they intend to bring into that enviroment.

ZAM: It seems that for the PvP crowd in City of Heroes, development hasn't been exactly at the level of what they've wanted. Are there any future developments coming along for die-hard PvPers?

Nate: We always fix bugs that come up with the current PvP system, and a couple of years ago we made it possible to balance PvP separately from PvE. The challenge is that it is very difficult to balance PvP in a game with over a thousand powers in hundreds of potential combinations, and we have made some changes in the past that didn't end up the way we wanted them to. "Just doing something else" isn't going to make anyone happy, least of all us. The community has given us great PVP feedback over the years and we have had some sound ideas internally, but we also want to find the right solution.

While the article is not meant to inform the current player base of the status of the game, or the PvP system, it seems as though its common knowledge outside of CoH that there is disdain for the current system, especially if an interviewer brought its up as one of his posted questions. This type of round about answer shows to a prespective customer that would be interested in PvP that the system IS indeed broken, and sadly will be until they find "the right solution".

That being said , PvP is not balanced, and to be completely fair, should not be in the aspect that powers should work no different than in PvE. Every AT has its role, has its strengths & weaknesses. Whats its been turned into is who can mash buttons fast enough with whatever Fotm that is broken to the advantage of the attacker.

This is a discussion forum about the article, so if the do have sound ideas, and (really)want to find a solution, why not implement some of those ideas on the test server, with the understanding that it is not permanent, looking for feedback. PvP needs to be treated like beta again to get it to a workable system .

Don't read between lines, don't put a spin on words, just ask when?...that goes for bases too.

As long as your not giving out centrioles like the hami-grinch (26 in a row & counting).

I also wonder.. is this a plot to get the ladies to sit on your lap o.O

but of course there will be folks there, this is virtue after all.

Lets do it again tuesday..assuming people show up.
YES we do hami raids on tuesday red side also...hint hint.

Please specify for your next themed contest, is it purely clown, or carnies?
If its carnies count me in, if its clowns...there's just something so ugly about that ruffled collar, gloves, & even the iron shiek couldn't make curled boots cool again.

AE?, oh yeah, i remeber those buildings, where players could make stories, stories that are no longer worth the supposed 'rewards'. add me to the no thanks list.
A bunch of empty buildings that once had potential, AE is now Aeons Eyesore.

With no nukes, almost all heavies & shivans dead to boot =D.
Excellent team work, leadership, & determination to stay with the plan by all.
~Fortunata Silvermane~

Just for an example, playing a fortunata vs. a psi defender.
I have and play both, defenders get the full 40% resist bonus in pvp,fortunata gets 10%.
Since diminishing returns my fortunata, a defense based toon, now has 72% less defense thanks to DR. With pvp being resistance based now, this severly cripples the fortunata, and favors the defender over it.
Since the bonus defenders now get when soloing, with decreses up to a team of 3, my defender now outdamages the fortunata.
Take into account this is only primary powers, the secondary for the fortunata is virtually nil since DR , the secondary for my defender, which is radiation, still works as intended, to a degree(not counting the effects of heal decay)the debuffs still do thier job.
So now thanks to the laundry list of bad choices the devs have forced upon us, the "support" toon in this case is now much better than what is supposed to be an attack class toon.
I've stated this numerous times, but for someone asking whats wrong with pvp, i'll phrase it as a question: What would you rather play in PvP, something you've played through level after level in PvE, and know its strengths & weaknesses, or the presumably "same" toon, only to get in a PvP zone, and find that thier damage is different, holds don't hold, they have no defense, their movement goes to a snails pace when they attack, are attacked, pop an inspiraition, heal, or even get hit byNPC characters?

Personally, i'd like to play my characters as i've learned to play them in PvE, knowing if i have to use an inspiration, like a break free, or a heal, its going to work like intended.
Every toon should have a role to play in PvP the same as PvE, this is no longer possible because of changes that were made to the system for the veiled reasoning of trying to get new players interested.
Their changes only pushed the old players out, and pushed the "even playing field" further apart.

Unfortunately the O.P. can't make a decision based on a comparison of the pre & post nerfed systems, but you do know the difference between the way your character preforms in PvE & what its like in PvP now.
The question is which would you prefer?

To be perfectly honest, i wouldn't even dicuss this as a bonus to anything PvP, the devs might turn around and say they did this for PvP'rs, as part of the smokescreen of"we did this & that for you" instead of actually doing something.
If anything should be discussed, it should be the complete lack of anything metioned for PvP, or many other neglected areas of the game for the next two issues.

Hands down MM's. i made one when demon summoning came out, got it to 50, and really enjoyed deleting it.(i won't even team with mm's anymore)
Not big on tanks either, the damage...just sucks.
Khelds...dunno they just seem like the mutt class of CoX.
Favorites: Veats, scrappers,controllers.
giving one more shot to doms, but with aggro + no heal, i think i might stick with controllers.

Only if there is a temp power called "reversion" takes your powers, movement, etc. to pre I13 status until you are defeated. as long as we're dreaming...2 minute recharge =D

Does this mean we can use RV for having prayer circles under the statue, holding hands and having a sing-a-long?

There should be no difference between powers for PvE to PvP.
We all level our toons though PvE, we know how to play them stremgths & weaknesses via PvE.
To implement a different system for PvP, and expect new players to come in, and then get wrecked because thier toon doesn't preform like its meant to, and expect that player to return for more is just plain stupid.
Everyone knew how to cope before, breakfrees & greens for those that needed them. If you got beat on the old system, you either need different strategy, team make-up, or dare i say...practice.
Just like in PvE all AT's should have a purpose, or should be able to find a purpose, and with the system they have in place its just not plausible.
They want to fix it? Then they need to START with rolling it back, and build from there.

Too many (( ))'s .
They should re-offer free server transfers, & make a seperate Pocket D only server. That should lighten the load a bit =D

the real question should be.. when are they going to upgrade virtue from a hampster wheel powered server, c'mon we at least deserrve a hampster ball.

Lag, rubberbanding, getting disconnected from mapserver on long loads into missions, wentworths & blackmarket doing that nice click 5 times to post, bid or receive.... yeah didn't see that coming...
but if you send a ticket, its your settings, hardware, or connection =P

One good thing about it being down is now i can at least stop getting the copy & paste responses from the tech department claiming its "my hardware, settings, or connection".
Get to work monkeys!