Fitness becoming inherent in i19...
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AresSupreme,
Posted on: 2010-09-05 13:07 in Everything about PvP
off the top of my head, blasters can get phase, veats now have an easier time getting double leadership, tanks and broots can get perception and earth mastery.
easier game becomes easier.
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
My stone brute can finally get teleport 
(not really related to pvp, but thats pretty much all I got).
Weave and tough
Drop Hiber on my arena characters, because I'll be able to have Leadership and phase without giving anything up. Grab Tactics on my VEATs. Free 35% (base + one level 50 endmod IO) recovery bonus for my characters without Stamina, like my Stalkers.
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Defenders with tactics + Phase
Blasters with phase + tactics + Res shield
Corrupters with probably just more power picks for better bonuses
Emps with again probably more power picks for better bonuses
Stalkers with tactics + Stealth + movement
Will make building things a good bit easier though you'll still have the slot crunch going on I'm sure.
how will this effect pvp?
it won't there won't be anyone left.
man the devs just keep digging a hole for themselves huh lol..
just go back to i12 and start over..
either way not having to choose stamina will be good.. all my toons will either have fighting, med, or stealth.. + leaping, speed, and if needs be leadership..
Freedom:
Iron-Blade 50kat/invul Iron Ascension 50trifpb Cinder Reborn 50fire/kin Zaha'doom 50triws Cindered Stones 50fire/ston ColdFusion 35 ice/rad Iron Ash 50 Fir/WP
Iron Wind km/regen Iron Static elec/reg Psy Entity 50 psy/dev Iron-Assassin 50 nin/nin
this game is simply becoming too easy...it would probably be best the devs think again about applying this, or at least add some restrictions...when/if this goes live as its planned i will:
1)stop pvping entirely,
2)stripp all my pvp toons and buy GR
3)PvE with my super pimped out toons for a month or so
4)sell my account....
this game is easy enough in pve as it is, and retarded enough in pvp... please devs, stop being stupid and adding new things and actually consider ideas smart people like mac give you...and fix UI's as well, basically the only thing in this game i consider challenging is the Cathedral of Pain, everything else is basically just a big bag of HP...at this rate i give this game 2 more years at most left
no one will ever get kills anymore...
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Really? Fitness becoming an inherent power is going to prevent you from ever getting kills in PvP?|
Originally Posted by Neeto
no one will ever get kills anymore...
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What?
I realize that I'm not exactly an authority on PvP in CoH/V, but can someone explain to me how this is going to keep people from getting kills? Or is this just another example of PvPers QQing about everything?
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Originally Posted by Peregrine_Falcon
Or is this just another example of PvPers QQing about everything?
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you'll see a lot more phase shift, and that will be the most noticeable thing. Other than that, not a big deal. Besides if everyone has phase it kinda cancels out the point of phase.
Also could someone tell me why xanatos is in this http://www.cityofheroes.com/global/u...bk_issue12.jpg
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Oddly enough, most of the "QQing" from PvPers comes about mechanics imbalances and bugs, not the typical "OMG THIS BADGE IS BROKEN" or "I WANT ANIMATED TAILS" or "MY CAPE ISN'T WAVING RIGHT" crap you get from the PvE crowd.|
Originally Posted by Peregrine_Falcon
Or is this just another example of PvPers QQing about everything?
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
Besides if everyone has phase it kinda cancels out the point of phase.
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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this also makes it alot easier for veats to get second leadership for stalker griefing, or if they didn't already have it, chances are they probably dropped something like sj/ss to get it, either way you'll see an overall increase in performance of stalker hunters.|
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
This.
you'll see a lot more phase shift, and that will be the most noticeable thing. Other than that, not a big deal. Besides if everyone has phase it kinda cancels out the point of phase. Also could someone tell me why xanatos is in this http://www.cityofheroes.com/global/u...bk_issue12.jpg |
the "never get kills" comment was a bit over the top, but it does making building pvp toons exponentially easier in an already easy game/system.
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
This change will benefit my staminaless Stalker. All of my other characters can now take Concealment and Leadership.
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That comic is like 3-4 years old.|
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
Also could someone tell me why xanatos is in this http://www.cityofheroes.com/global/u...bk_issue12.jpg
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See my location as for why i'm in it.
the more i think about this.. the more this idea looks horrible..
The only at i would say that deserve this change is kheldians.. other than that if any other at gets this, it will through off any lil balance the devs think they have in pvp.
Why kheldians need this is because they are already way behind in the pvp curve + no epic powers and the lack of dev love.. this would go miles to be able to pick up other pool powers and not have to worry about fitness for kheldians..
But i would rather the devs reconsider and place the i12 stats back in - the toggle dropping and the crasy 30 sec mezzes.. other than that we are good to go..
Freedom:
Iron-Blade 50kat/invul Iron Ascension 50trifpb Cinder Reborn 50fire/kin Zaha'doom 50triws Cindered Stones 50fire/ston ColdFusion 35 ice/rad Iron Ash 50 Fir/WP
Iron Wind km/regen Iron Static elec/reg Psy Entity 50 psy/dev Iron-Assassin 50 nin/nin
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yeah ive been on my regen lately in RV but if you were truly a member of my fan club ud know ive been playing a fender and blaster for a few months straight now.|
Originally Posted by macskull
Oddly enough, most of the "QQing" from PvPers comes about mechanics imbalances and bugs, not the typical "OMG THIS BADGE IS BROKEN" or "I WANT ANIMATED TAILS" or "MY CAPE ISN'T WAVING RIGHT" crap you get from the PvE crowd.
Assuming you use phase to try and finish off other phased players, which in a zone or team arena situation is a really stupid thing to do 99% of the time. When someone burns phase to try and kill a phased player (generally doesn't happen because the phased person is usually well away anyways) they become a big target. I'm aware that playing a regin in zones clouds your judgment and hampers critical thinking skills, but now you're just being silly. |
point is, no use crying over spilled milk. Not gonna make any huge difference to pvp. This isn't the second coming of i13
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If true, you need to fix your PvP component.
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
That comic is like 3-4 years old.
See my location as for why i'm in it. |
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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Xanatos was king of the MRP in Virtue back in the day.|
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
Also could someone tell me why xanatos is in this http://www.cityofheroes.com/global/u...bk_issue12.jpg
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http://www.creyindustries.com/viewhero.php?id=51
Cpt. Shwan.
Virtue, AR/Dev Blaster, lvl 50+3, 3300+ Hours logged.
Created 8/20/2004 - Proud Captain of Hero Dawn!
To be perfectly honest, i wouldn't even dicuss this as a bonus to anything PvP, the devs might turn around and say they did this for PvP'rs, as part of the smokescreen of"we did this & that for you" instead of actually doing something.
If anything should be discussed, it should be the complete lack of anything metioned for PvP, or many other neglected areas of the game for the next two issues.
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I actually found this website yesterday lol
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Originally Posted by CptShwan
Xanatos was king of the MRP in Virtue back in the day.
http://www.creyindustries.com/viewhero.php?id=51 |
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neglect of certain game areas isn't important right now|
Originally Posted by Voided_Soul
To be perfectly honest, i wouldn't even dicuss this as a bonus to anything PvP, the devs might turn around and say they did this for PvP'rs, as part of the smokescreen of"we did this & that for you" instead of actually doing something.
If anything should be discussed, it should be the complete lack of anything metioned for PvP, or many other neglected areas of the game for the next two issues. |
theres a possibility that i20 is animated faces
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Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
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HAHAHA! I can picture kiddies in broadcast saying that. Omg I haven't laughed that hard in a while
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Originally Posted by macskull
Oddly enough, most of the "QQing" from PvPers comes about mechanics imbalances and bugs, not the typical "OMG THIS BADGE IS BROKEN" or "I WANT ANIMATED TAILS" or "MY CAPE ISN'T WAVING RIGHT" crap you get from the PvE crowd.
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I don't think he really cared what you were being bad on. |
Originally Posted by AresSupreme
yeah ive been on my regen lately in RV but if you were truly a member of my fan club ud know ive been playing a fender and blaster for a few months straight now.
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How will this affect your PvP builds? If you run staminaless currently, the benefits will be obvious, but if you already have the fitness pool, what will you replace it with?
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