Tired Angel

I had forgotten about my WS, she won't need respecing as she doesn't use Fitness at the moment anyway. But am loving the fact it will now work in forms as I always find my Dwarf form to be a bit of an edurance hog.

I never knew that. I just went onto Red Tomax to check and at level 15 unyeilding provides:

and at level 50 is provides:

So you are right but still having nearly 8 mags worth of protection at level 15 (which is what I would have been) is still quite high.

http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...eilding_Stance

I just wanted to say that I agree with Claws' overview on the situation in the thread but always wanted to throw in my own experience of a tank being mezzed.

I was on a Posi TF (part 1 I think) with my Invulnerable tank and we were fighting some CoT. We had accidently aggro'd two mobs and I was trying my best to contain them. At one point I had 4 ruin mages on me all spamming their attacks and at one point I actually got held. It was only for a few seconds but it was enough make me double check my toggles were running (which they were). So it is possible for mezzing mobs to easily stack a hold on a melee AT so I think the 10 is just right.

As for the Aegis Mez protection I would never put it in a click power. Although I would never put a power that has limited duration in a click power (including the ones that last 120s), I always put them in toggles or auto powers. I use it in Steamy Mist on my Grav/Storm and stack it with other set bonuses such as the ones from Expedient Reinforcement. Every little helps IMO!

This - although I would take Ice Arrow for stacking holds against bosses.

Disruption Arrow is a nice -15% resistance debuff and doesn't require much (if any) slotting.

From my experience from what I choose to watch I don't find this the case while from your experience you do. And there is nothing wrong with that as there is a good chance we choose to watch/read different things.

For example on a daily basis I watch stuff which is just silly/fun (e.g. Sarah-Jane Adventures, Whites, Family Guy, My Family, 30 Rock, The Inbetweeners), stuff that blends the fun or interesting with real life (Doctor Who, The Bill, House, Glee, Merlin, Lie to Me, Sherlock, Hustle, Justice League, Casualty) and then the extreme realism (Torchwood, Battlestar Galactica, Angel, Being Human). I would also add to the extreme realism the later series of Smallville and Buffy as they got quite dark towards the end. And I find all of these entertaining and watch them for different reasons.

But again this is just purely from my perception of what I choose to watch (and this isn't a comprehensive list of everything I watch at the moment) and doesn't cover everything that is available to watch as well.

I was going to respond to the rest of your post but realised it was going to get into a discussion about one (maybe two) programs which in way will create a tangent away from your original point about the over saturation of extreme "realism" in the media.

I think my argument boils down to what my perception is vs what yours is and there is no way to prove/disprove either. So I sense an agree to disagree moment

Edit - just read what Electric-Knight wrote and find myself agreeing with what is said here:

But again it comes down to opinion again about what works and what doesn't. The examples of the darker stuff I watch above, to me, do handle it well where others may disagree.

I personally think that the characters that are put accross in some of these extreme situations (such as Children of Earch) are quite realistic. You've also got to remember that the point of programs like that is portray the character first and the situation second. When you compare them to media such as Star Wars or Superman the focus is different, these aren't trying to portray the story/situation first and the characters second.

In some ways programs like Torchwood has more in relation with Friends than it would to Star Wars/Superman. It may be a weird analogy but looking at the characters in Friends they are, although slightly exagerated, having realistic reactions to more 'general life' situations (e.g. the Ross/Rachel relationship) while Torchwood has realistic reactions to exagerated circumstances.

Now I am going to stop there as I am getting slightly lost in my own thought process!!

My main toon, Grav/Storm, is actually going to be going the Cardiac route for the Core Paragon. Currently the toon has about 61% global recharge (with the final build having approx 88%) so recharge isn't an issue. However endurance is! Particularly with longer fights where I am spamming Tornado and Lightning Storm along with running Hurricane and Snow Storm.

The Range aspect will come in handy for Propel and Wormhole and the Damage Res buff will work with Steamy Mist and Fire Shield.

I am under the same impression as Bunny in that the bonus from the Alpha slot is applied to powers in the same way as slotting extra normal enhancements, hence why the ED stuff comes into play. So I would assume that the Healing aspect of that particular Alpha Enhancement will affect Healing Flames because it doesn't work the same way as IO bonuses.

I tried an NA trial account not so long ago and found my connection to be no different to the one for my EU account.

And as Liz posted above a lot of EU players actually report that there is less lag from the US than there is from the Germany based servers.

So fingers crossed!

I also thought that this may be the first step towards a server list merge - well we can dream!

I don't 100% agree with this. While my own personal view and build style is build up my defences first not thinking about offensive stuff isn't the way to go. I say this because:

1) Inherents - the splash taunt created by Gauntlet by actually attacking can actually help you manage agro for a team. And now their is Bruising which is a decent 20% resistance debuff for your Tier 1 attack which helps with the damage output of the Tank and anyone else attacking that target.

2) Tanker Role - my definition of a Tanker role is more than just take the Aggro, its to protect the team. And a defeated enemy is an enemy is an enemy that won't be bothering a squishy AT!

3) "Sometimes a good defence is having a good offence" - Not all Tanks are created equal and not everyone does IO builds so need something extra to survive. Also a Tanker is not just a Primary set (I hate threads that try to analyse an AT but just by their Primary), it has a Secondary offensive set which can also provide tools for survival. Whether this be through slows (Ice), to hit debuffs (Dark) or just pure damage (Fire) these all add to a Tankers, and a teams, survival.

So while I agree to build Defence before Offence ignoring Offence is the wrong way to go and is ignoring half the potential of the tank and is just as bad as "Pure Healer" defenders!

Not really - from what I understand the Lost when they finish mutating become Rikti, thats why if you do the Midnighter blue side arc you get Rikti spawning in the missions rather than Lost.

So any high level Lost would actually be Rikti!

Im kind of on the fence about Temp powers in TFs. I quite like them in the Hero Respec Trial and the hero side Khan TF but thats because they aren't overused.

The thing is the diary said he wanted the aspect of coordination and didn't specifically say that would be down to temp powers. Also it made clear they didn't want to go the route of needing x AT to start.

The thing about coordination is that it can come in many different ways. For example there is some team coordination on the cysts mission of the ITF, do you stay and fight the ambushes or do you leg it! Its happened a number of times where a team has split because, of no fault of anyones, it just hasn't been discussed and coordinated. Some people may be used to speed runs where you would leg it and others may be used to killing all the way through. Another example would be the Hero Respec Trial. There needs to be some sort of coordination about people intercepting the multiple waves and protecting the core. Its not one of the hardest trials out there but I have failed it once or twice because we just couldn't organise ourselves properly. And another example would be in the Khan TF blue side, there needs to be some coordination on how the team deals with the released AVs while fighting Reich.

Anyway, my point is that coordination can come in many different ways. I am kind of hoping it won't involve overuse of temp powers but still will require the team to work together smoothly and have the same plan in mind.

Thanks - didn't take my that long to research but it does make you think what you can do with the powers. When I first started playing around with Electric I didn't even think about putting procs in Jolting Chain but really think it could make the power more useful and more spamable. And the good thing about the Explosive Strike proc is that it is available quite early on at level 10.

Another option I didn't list is the Ragnarok purple Knockdown Proc in the Chain Fences. As CF doesn't stop KB it makes it another useful proc to place in there.

You are right - it still does provide an endurance discount like conserve power (but its less strong IIRC) but they also added a heal and a regen bonus to it as well.

I can't add much beyond what has already been said except I picked up on this part on your playstyle.

Electric Control is very weak in terms of damage output so you may find soloing a bit on the slow side for a while. It helps if you have vet reward powers. I don't want to put you off but just I would point it out. I have an Electric/Kinetic 'troller which I half solo'd/half teamed with so it is possible and will improve once your imps are about.

One thing I found helped was taking Air Superiority (for me I took it instead of Hover as I was taking Fly) as it gets a bonus damage from containment.

Another thing you can do is by pairing it with something that will help boost your damage out put. These are in no particular order of effectiveness:
* Cold Domination - Sleet has a -resistance aspect, however you don't get it till late
* Kinetics - You Siphon Power early which helps, plus Fulcrum Shift later on
* Radiation Emission - You get Accelerate Metabolism nice and early which does contain a damage buff, plus the 'holy trinity' of debuffs will make things easier to take down
* Sonic Resonance - You get the -resistance power Sonic Siphon from lvl 1, plus Disruption Field (which you can use on your pet) and Liquify later on (two more -resistance powers)
* Storm Summoning - You get freezing rain earlyish which has a -resistance part, plus you get lightning storm and tornado for extra damage later on.
* Thermal Radiation - You get Melt Armour but not until the very end, along with Forge for +damage for your pets
* Trick Arrow - you get Acid Arrow and Disruption Arrow for -resistance and later on Oil Slick Arrow for extra damage (and as Electric causes energy damage it should be easy to light!)

You can also boost your damage output through the use of damage Procs. I did a list for an SG friend of mine about what Procs could be useful for an Electric Controller and remember with chain powers (e.g. Jolting Chain) the proc has a chance to go off on each person hit.

Electric Fence
* Devastation - Chance to Hold
* Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Lethal Damage

Telsa Cage
* Devastation - Chance to Hold
* Lockdown - Chance to Hold
* Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Psionic Damage
* Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Psionic Damage

Chain Fences
* Gravitational Anchor - Chance to Hold (lvl 50 only)
* Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Lethal Damage
* Positron Blast - Chance of Energy Damage
* Possibly Energy Manipulator - Chance to Stun

Jolting Chain
* Davastation - Chance to Hold
* Explosive Strike - Chance of Smashing Damage

Static Field
*Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Smashing Damage

Synaptic Overload
* Cocophany - Chance of Energy Damage
* Malaise's Illusions - Chance of Psionic Damage