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    If you took Instant Healing and changed it so that it made each hit act like illusory damage -- i.e., for each hit you take, a second or two after the hit you 'instantly healed' part of the damage, then what you'd have would be a defense that would scale the same way that Resistance and Defense did, and could be balanced against them -- 40% Resistance, 40% Defense, and 40% Instant Healing would all, over time, protect a character from 40% of the incoming damage.

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    Can't be done without new tech. Significant new tech. This was one of the ideas I put forward in I3, before I really knew what limitations we have in the system.

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    This is actually untrue. Simply feed the hamsters more.
  2. TheMightyStorm

    Bodyguard

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    So you're saying they'll divy up the Unresistable portion too?
    I duno man, that sounds like more coding than it's worth to me...

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    It takes the entire block of damage and apportions it by the ratios described. For the Mastermind, he then gets his Resistances applied, while the pets get no resistance to the shared damage.

    In the case of unresistable damage, therefore, all damage is apportioned, then resists apply normally -- the unresisted portion is still unresisted, but it is reduced by the Bodyguard.

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    Who owns that damage, and how is it generated. For instance if the damage kills a henchman, will the balance fall on other henchmen or the MM? Do the henchmen receive the damage from an entity owned by the MM, so that when the MM is confused it might not work?

    Info plezz!
  3. right now 'flashback' is implemented by having a friend make a new character and then exemping down.
  4. I've read what it takes to get some of these contacts. None of them are worth the time and effort that I normally would put into exploration.

    Now, you have to keep in mind. I've rifle-butted a Halo jeep through a narrow hallway just to see what would happen. I've actually found all the personalized weapons for the characters in Final Fantasy X. I'm an exploring *fool*. I'm also a badge hound.

    But these 'unlockable' contacts require a number of badges and hoops to jump through that seems *fine tuned* to be *exactly* 1 iota outside my threshold of interest.

    When it comes to contacts, I think we need to suspend the mindless timesink methodology of badges. I get that for a an achievement, 100 paragon protectors makes sense. But if you're trying ot unlock a contact... can't it just be 10? 20? Maybe not just the bosses, but regular mobs in a class?

    Really the point here is that half the time, you'd outlevel these damn contacts in the process of getting the badges you need to take their missions!

    No more wire hangers.
  5. The patch note was incomprehensible to anyone who doesn't pay attention to combat spam (me). Castle admitted it. It's all over now and I can continue my life happily.

    Although the question remains, why has my assault bot stopped meleeing sometimes? It's weird--and I attribute it to the text change. (satire)
  6. well you're actually not allowed to play a storm defender without the 'humour'. Vitreous 'humour'.
  7. The Mighty Storm's Storm Healer guide;
    for the Person who wants to play the Healer AT, using the storm powerset, which itself, has a heal. Making it and you a healer.


    Don't take drugs, and stay out of deep end of the medicine pool.

    Chapter 1: Blue shield, red snow.

    Like the Iceberg, The Mighty Storm defender's vast bulk is concealed beneath the surface. No, I don't mean we're fat. Let me start over. Like the Iceberg, The Mighty Storm defender can carve channels through solid rock, rupture the hulls of great ships, and dispose, once and for all, with Leonardo DeCaprio's career--such that he only gets uninteresting 1 dimensional roles thereafter (opinion). Except that, whereas a glacier, which I suppose is different than an iceberg, takes many millions of years to plow through a mountain, and can only lie in menacing wait for a large cruise liner to ram into it, The Mighty Storm defender can accomplish the leveling of whole planetary collections in a matter of hours, and is quite capable of chasing down the entire Carnivale Cruise fleet, and simultaneously wrecking up to 3000 2nd honeymoons.

    As rivulets of blood squeezed from the veins of undesireables, the evil, the opportunistic, and the present-at-time-of-rampage (small children), collect in streams, and creeks of decaying serum, wending their way gently through the city streets, toppling refrigerator boxes, and flooding dumpsters, where the homeless desperately try to catch a few nightmare-filled hours of shuteye between Tsoo muggings and Outcast shakedowns, before a Clockwork Knight turns their resting place into about 32.4 gears (figure is for typical municipal general waste container, recycling containers can produce 48.1 gears, or 14 sprockets, or 12 oscillators, or 3 knights, or .8 of a duke, or .5 of a duke, 1 knight, and 3 gears, but typically is used for 8 sprockets, .5 of a knight, and 12 gears--Tesla knights require 12% *more* material, whereas assembler dukes require only 90% as much material as a typical duke. For comparison purposes, Babbage is 20 princes, 2 knights, and a gear, or 3 clockwork kings, - the brains + 10 princes, 1 duke, an oscillator, and 3 gears, or 1 psychic babbage; hold the psy), you will often feel moved to favor the city with a hellacious grin, and an even more hellacious laugh, to indicate your nearly psychotic disassociation from reality and society at large.

    But enough of that!

    The Mighty Storm defender is one of the more offensive defender ATs. As I present it here, it will be extremely offensive. No doubt some of you are already offended. This will only get worse as time goes by, so get a drink. I recommend something girly. Like Everclear, maple syrup, and apple cider.

    My playstyle involves either soloing, working with few/couple blasters/defenders, or taking the lead in a team. I am capable of assisting a tank who is a focal point, as *you* will be if you use even an *ounce* of your brain--I swear to god, if you go out there and give us a bad name by screwing up the grouping of the bad guys, I will *follow* you and I will make fun of your costume until you cry. So don't assume you *can't* do anything. You can do anything. If someone asks you if you can tank Tyrant, say yes. A team wipe is an acceptible stepping stone to self-confidence. In fact, I prefer it.

    Chapter 2: Toolbox.

    The Storm powers fall in roughly 3 categorization systms, 1 of which has 3 categories, and 2 of which have 4 categories.

    The first categorization system has to do with complaints/compliments, and breaks down roughly in the following way:

    People don't want you to use it, then see how it works and like it: Freezing rain, Lightning storm.
    People are leary of it, but will not complain as long as you don't screw up: Gale, Hurricane
    People think this is what you do, and will be confused if you don't do it: 02 boost, steamy mist, thunderclap, snow storm
    People won't know what it is half the time, and while they may tolerate it, they will never love it--considered chronically 'team unfriendly', despite its huge value in a team environment: Tornado

    The second categorization system has to do with the typical priority of the powers in the selection process of other Storm defenders. ZealotOnAStick likes Gale more than I portray here, Some people love Steamy mist more than I portray here, but across my experience in game, and listening to attitudes on the boards, this is my approxiamation of peoples' priorities.

    Must haves: O2 boost or gale (forced), freezing rain, snow storm.
    Mighty Storm Defender's delight: Hurricane, Lightning storm
    Cuddily: Tornado, O2 boost (if you took gale), Steamy Mist
    Toys: Gale (if you took O2 Boost), Thunderclap

    The third categorization system is for The Mighty Storm defender, as conceived of in the womb of God's will.

    Requirements: O2 boost, Freezing rain, Snow storm, Tornado, Lightning storm, Hurricane
    Nice to haves: Steamy Mist, Gale
    Only necessary in one specific sub-build--the diso-queen: Thunderclap

    The point and purpose of the powers is roughly as follows.

    O2 boost and steamy mist protect the team more than they protect you. The stealth component of steamy mist (which, conveniently, extends about as far as the perimeter of mist--for teammate coverage--and is good for about the radius of the mist, meaning, as long as something is outside the mist and has a typical vision range, it won't see you. Rikti drones, and snipers, obviously, having longer vision range, and this rule of thumb doesn't hold true for them. Perception adjustments also complicate this). O2 boost is more of a disorient-preventing buff than it is a heal, though I've used it to heal. Steamy mist I tend to leave running for personal stealth, and then I stay a couple steps behind the dumbest teammembers, to help prevent them from causing unintended aggro. Sometimes this works, and sometimes it doesn't, but you've got to try.

    Hurricane, Snow Storm, Tornado, and Freezing rain (and tclap if you're a diso queen--I handle that in a later chapter) are mitigation tools. You use Hurricane to 'touch' mobs, leaving them massively acc debuffed for several seconds (usually long enough to pop over to another group, blast once, and come back, or make a lightning storm, or a freezing rain--you have to be vigilant and mobile to keep the badguys debuffed). Snow storm has -recharge, and also sends the mob you anchor into evasion mode (he wants to separate himself from his teammates--however with the slowing effect, he typically just plods around for alittle bit and gives up--sometimes other factors in the AI make it ignore evasion mode. I don't know what these factors are, and neither does the guy who wrote the AI)--this reduces incoming damage. Tornado is fairly reliable as a skirmisher which uses knockback, disorient, and an ability to produce evasion behavior to prevent mobs from focusing on attacking you. Freezing rain acts as mitigation in that it causes evasion and knockdown. You'll notice that alot of your mitigation comes from evasion behavior (or seems like it). This is similar to the 'old' fear, which just made badguys run away, though it has the benefit of ending faster, and being limited in scope to the things that cause it, rather than a persistent effect that keeps a mob running until it's far far away.

    Hurricane, snow storm, freezing rain, and gale are your mob position tools, which is helpful for a) getting people off cliffs, around corners and such to give yourself a breather b) boxing badguys in for aoe usage c) assisting other playesr by pushing additional badguys into their static effects. Snow storm and freezing rain are part of the process because the 'push' in hurricane has been dramatically reduced. There was a time when an even-level mob couldn't reach you if he tried running into your hurricane. Now this is not the case. Against higher level mobs it's even less noticeable--until they stand still. Snow storm helps slow footspeed, increasing the relative effect of your 'push', and freezing rain causes additional knockback which effectively makes the mob stand still, so you can push them more effectively--it also has a slow component.

    Tornado, Hurricane, Lightning Storm, and Freezing rain are your offensive tools. Tornado, Lstorm, and FR all do damage (or help you do more damage through -def and -rez), so their offensive role is understandable. I place Hurricane here because of the posture you must adopt while using it. Open a slot in your mind where you put the concept of 'walking up to someone and debuffing them with hurricane', and make it a button that you put in an invisible slot on your action bar--it has instant recharge. Now, when it's time to fight, press this button first. Thereafter, be sure that you press this button between pressing other buttons on your action bar, so that your enemy stays debuffed. You should really alternate it. One blast, then hurricane debuff. One lstorm, then hurricane debuff. Freezing rain, hurricane debuff. By maintaining this large acc penalty on your enemies, you can deal with purple bosses, red lieutenants, and their orange minions all at once. There aren't any spoons.

    Chapter 3: Exercise your inner child

    The dream of flight, once beyond mankind's reach, was achieved in this game, but that was before suppression. Now it is the dream of 'hover'.

    In order to get your storm on at maximum meteorologency, you must have mobility. My 'total mobility solution' (TMS), is hover, 3 slotted for speed, flight, 6 slotted, half for speed and half for endurance, teleport foe, to move the snow storm anchor, and teleport, to move the hurricane anchor. This is 2 power pools, 4 powers, and 7 to 11 slots, depending on how much you favor the teleport powers with slotting (I am a fan of 3 slotting teleport for range, for the sake of speeding between Crey's Folley and Founder's Falls). I take Flight because hurricane alone does not suppress it, and it's useful for the initial debuffing, or moving to debuff newly aggroed mobs.

    Then there is the fitness pool. I would never consider playing a storm defender without 3 slotted stamina. I consider it 'no fun'. If you enjoy it... well.. you're *INSANE* and will find a comprable mate to breed true into the next generation so that my *grandchildren* can have the same boring arguments with the decendents of your madness through their wireless cybernetic web-crawling implants. No doubt their Encephalon chips will short-out (fuzzy dark elves in Shadowrun 4tehwin!--also kid stealth legs--and retractable cyber-horns--oh man and those tatoos that could move and glow! That is *hot*). I also select hurdle, rather than swift, since, with hurdle, you have higher lateral speed while jumping than you do while running with swift. By making short bunny-hops, you will achieve a faster ground speed than when using swift. Also, sprint stacks equally well with swift *or* hurdle, so you don't miss out on that synergy (this, btw, is due to the fact that they upgraded sprint in I2 to have a +jump capability, in order to compensate for the slower lateral speed whilst jumping, compared to running speed--knowledge is power, don't do drugs). I take health, rather than both movement powers, because the health regen is helpful, but mostly because it has some sleep resistence.

    Then there is the discretionary pool. You're already weighted down with movement options, so, luckily, we don't need superspeed or something weird here. I used to swear by hasten, for the potential it had to push your recharge as far as it could go, and cause freezing rain overlap as well as additional lstorm and tornado summonings. However, now that ED limits recharge to 3 slots, hasten does not hold the undeniable charm it once did. For one thing, Since I can't fully slot Lstorm for damage, half of it is recharge anyway. And for another, hasten can't be 'perma' which, despite only a short down time, makes it situational. Between these changes and the glowing hands, and the endurance 'crash', I am not sure about it. Of course, EngSoc told prolesector that the recharge on hasten has actually *decreased*, but those who work in the polit bureau... you know what? 1984 is passe. There, I said it.

    Moving right along, all I've said of substance here is that the 4th pool is no longer hasten. Now it can be anything. One of those anythings is the presence pool. Taunt tends to convince AI with mixed melee/ranged posture to close to melee range, which is advantageous for hurricane, and usually means you don't have to chase them as much. Provoke can be a powerful tool to hold interest in your hurricane, and also to draw the enemy across a patch of freezing rain--making them evade (thereby attacking less), slow, fall down, debuff, and generally explode. The fear at the upper end of the pool is also a useful tool for dealing with strays or multiple groups--it helps compensate for the time-intensive process of debuffing with hurricane, and is a nice compliment to any immobilizes you may have. It's not as useful in the disorient-queen build.

    Another anything is the fighting pool, if you really want to invest in tough and weave for extra survivability. There are worse things to do with your time, though you'll have to start sacrificing blasts and storm powers to squeeze them in. Not to mention the slotting.

    The other choice that sometimes occurs is the medicine pool, for the rescuscitate, since that will make you more team friendly, and the self-heal has disorient resistence associated with it (making it sort of an o2 boost self). I've also taken the stealth pool for phaseshift in the past--just for fun, really. Whirlwind is useful in the tornado fiend build, or in general to allow you to continue moving whilst activating powers (indescribably useful for the hurricane debuffing procesS). The lowest hanging fruit, however, is taking hasten (anyway), combat jumping (for added air control while hopping), or simply leave it blank and use the power choices for blasts.

    Chapter 4: Technique

    Technique has already been discussed, largely, so I don't want to repeat myself too much, but I ought to introduce you to the screaming obvious. These are all things which anybody could figure out, but which it sometimes help to hear, so that when you're mind is numbed from hours of dealing with War-wolves, you can say 'oh hey, that's right, I can do *this*'.

    KISS:

    Snow storm on the guy in the back or off to the side, then freezing rain.
    This is the typical opener in a team since it's available early, and doesn't disrupt the typical playstyle of CoH. You pick the guy on the fringes because he's most likely to escape the aoe-death, and continue acting as anchor for a while, and because the Snow storm radius is very large (especially for a toggle) and the *radius* can easily encompass the width of Freezing rain.

    Steamy mist and hurricane on, run into some bad guys (or teleport behind them), circle them once to bunch them up.
    Steamy mist will keep you stealthed so that the badguys don't react to you until you touch them with the debuff. They will then do their alpha (usually debuffed so most of it misses), which makes them stand still for a couple seconds, helping you to gather them up into a tighter knot for whatever happens next.

    Two bosses in a group--summon a tornado near one, and then focus on the other OR ranged badguys stay at range while you deal with their melee friends--summon a tornado to disrupt the ranged badguys without having to chase them yourself
    Tornados are best used as skirmishers. Expecting them to attack just one thing is usually a tenuous proposition. Also they typically don't kill something on their own. This is largely due to their target-switching mentality. Luckily, bosses, who don't disorient as easily as minions, tend to irritate a tornado more, so it will stick with them longer. In this way you can sort of postpone a ruling on the issue of Storm defender V. Jackabraxusasses (That would be a great CoT mage name, wouldn't it?), until you've dealt with your cumberbun (I have no idea).

    In a team, pull, then make a lightning storm to knockback melee enemies who advance on the squishies, then teleport or move with hurricane off behind the badguys, and use hurricane, gale, and another lstorm (if it returns in time) to prevent retreat.
    This is sort of your team-friendly way to use your positioning skills and offensive powers to protect the weak and uphold the murderer. I do this alot especially when teaming with illusion controllers or anything blastery.

    KICS:

    Using hurricane, debuff all the spawns in the hallway, then withdraw around a corner. If outdoors, continue debuff/disruption process until enough mobs are 'following' you, then back off and attack, swooping in and around to continue debuff as necessary. Use Freezing Rain, snow storm, and tornado to keep mobs disrupted and distracted.
    This is how I spend alot of my time. First you have to create an environment in which it is practical to utilize your mobility to keep all your target debuffed. Second, you have to not be afraid of the idea of pulling multiple spawns. You can often deal with 4 even-con or 3+2 spawns at a time, without need of inspirations. Third, you don't necessarily have to 'herd', but if you can get some mobs to catch in a corner, and then revisit 1 or 2 clumps of other mobs with your hurricane to maintain the debuff, that gives you more time to make lstorms and blast.

    Pull using tornado, and immediately fly away--usually out of sight. Use Lstorm and freezing rain, gale and tornado, as they approach to play 'whack a mole' with them until none of them get up and come back.
    Tornado irritates badguys, but it can't be attacked. They know it's your fault, and they don't like you. Let them get annoyed and come after you (this can be annoying if it's a bunch of long-ranged rifle weilding guys). You're drawing them away into an emptied area by flying away, and you're controlling how many deal with you at a time by blowing them away or blasting them. This can be combined wih the style above.

    There's more, obviously, depending on your blast set, and circumstances. Don't restrict yourself to these tactics. Also don't apply them verbatim each time. It's not a set of rules, they're more like guidelines, pirates code, etc etc. The germans say 'un so weiter'. Which I like.

    Chapter lost count: Blasting

    Stupid TMS Axioms that nobody agrees with me on.
    -Never take the 2nd blast.
    -Always get a snipe
    -Never take Aim
    -Take all the aoe you can, even if people don't like the power

    I never take the 2nd blast because it forces better endurance saving habits, and because when you're higher level you shouldn't have time to blast twice. If you do, you can just use an aoe and choke on the wastefulness of it. Just choke.

    I always get a snipe because, combined with steamy mist (or any form of stealth), you can easily peel one mob from a group, as long as you have something to hide behind, and the mob you shot can't retaliate from where he's standing.

    I never take Aim because my personal experience with it suggest to me that it's bugged-that it takes one attack to set the accuracy correctly--wasting time on a very short term buff--or that it wraps accuracy somehow, giving you occasionally miniscule benefits. It's possible that using Aim resets your streak-breaker somehow. Regardless I don't trust it. Many people trust it and love it and think I am insane. If they're right, my joy will know no bounds. Though the devs are now making Aim affect castable effects, I think you'd still find it unworthy. Even if it weren't for my conspiracy theory, you barely have enough time during Aim's duration to make an lstorm, and aiming for a freezing rain is largely pointless. Buildup would allow FR to do reasonable damage, but Aim's damage bonus is not enough on it's own. You're better off using damage inspirations if you intend to make use of FR's damage. One might also infer, by the way, that an inspiration will now cascade to a pet when cast. That is far more significant than Aim. But regardless, I am highly superstitious, and until I see the streak breaker stop acting whacky (I do maintain aim on a corruptor to check on its status occasionally--because I'm that anal retentive), I'll endorse it. I'll even offer some sort of morally questionable service free of charge if you'll take. But until that day, you'll have to dream while you peel a carrot.

    if insps don't cascade, I will be hjorkyed off. Hjorkynk!

    You have good single target damage, and a great aoe debuff in your storm powers. You need to supplement that with the ability to hurt several badguys at a time. Rad and dark are excellent choices. Psy and energy are middling. Electricity is a little short on the aoe, unless you count the nuke. Most people don't. Sonic has decent cones, and archery ends with rain-of-arrows. A rain. Largely a choice of blast set comes down to preference. However experience has shown me that rad and def lead the pack on damage to groups, with sonic just behind them. If anyone can refute this, please do so.

    The hairy fingertips version of each blast set:

    Rad:
    cosmic burst, irradiate, neutron bomb, and the snipe (which sounds like proton torpedoes). Electron haze if you can fit it.

    Dark:
    snipe, tenebrous tentacles, nightfall, life drain. Torrent if you can fit it.

    Psy:
    snipe, psychic scream, TK blast, psy tornado. Will dom if you can fit it.

    Ele:
    snipe, ball lightning, tesla cage, Voltaic sentinel. Thunderous blast if you can fit it.

    Eng:
    snipe, energy torrent, power burst, explosive blast. Nova if you have room.

    Sonic: (personal experience from a corruptor, so consider this more speculative)
    Howl, Shout, Screech, dreadful wail. Shockwave if you can fit it.

    Archery: (pure speculation--never leveled one)
    snipe, fistful of arrows, explosive arrow, Rain of arrows. Flaming arrow if you can fit it.
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    Blazing Arrow 2 Slotted has roguhly same range and with 2 Acc, 2 Damage, 2 Range its better than Ranged Shot and does more damage than a 2 Dam Ranged Shot.

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    Chapter of the Ultramarines: Unsuccessful in dating Sisters of Battle; "It's not you, it's me. I don't have a Betcher's Gland."

    Which is to say... Epic power pools.

    Those who've made it to level 40 know that the game gets great when you have a ton of powers to play with, and, in what is a creepy Twilight Zoneesque kind of 'oh no, not my glasses!' moment, the content gets *less* great. Well never you mind. Console yourself by soloing AVs and then bragging in the Scrapper forum.

    The defender sets break down in the following way. If you can't decide which to get, get power.

    Power is the only 100% guaranteed-to-please epic set available to defenders. This set contains 3 powers which are useful-anytime/anywhere in precisely the same way that vigilance is not.

    Conserve power is right there at the bottom, dangling like a ripe pair of cherries, waiting for you to massage their skins off with your, only slightly, rough tongue--and then allow their juice to run down your chin. If that's graphic, it's only because when The Mighty Storm defender gets conserve power, it starts to get rediculous. Especially in the recharge-focused build that I advocate. Careful only that you don't spend too much time laying down the storm components, and forsake the debuffing. Debuff is *life*.

    Then there's buildup, which I hear blasters say is ok (irony!--also goes well with sniper and rye).

    I will compare the shields separately in a moment.

    Total focus is a toy power for The Mighty Storm defender. It's very powerful, sure, but it's anathema to your entire routine. For starters, you usually shouldn't be in hth for that long, for another its single target, and for third it has a relatively cumbersome activation time which a) does not produce a storm cloud and b) is time that you can never ever ever get back. Ever. Consider the granules of sand cascading gently and singly from the upper portion of a delicate hourglass which is held in the ivory grip of Death himself (paleontologists can tell by Death's pelvis what his gender is). In that light, is it really worth it? Shouldn't that time be spent making rain so that maize might grow from the fertile entrails of your foes? Of course it is.

    Dark!
    Only way to become a D4. Too bad you picked a set that [expletive deleted] [gratuitous hyperbole]'s dark (playful humor).

    I take the dark epic as part of the diso Queen build, and I'd experimented with it on a storm/rad (for the angry cloudlike-look).

    The problem with dark is that you need 3 powers worth of it, since, if you don't take soul drain, what the hell was the point of picking the pool in the first place? Soul drain provides a substantial damage bonus if used in the midst of enemies, which lasts long enough to weild some storm defender powers. Delightfully, with the I7 updates coming soon, where things like rains, storm clouds, and tornados gain the boon of buffs that are on *you*, it may become the de facto method of pumping a Storm defender's damage in the late game. It might have the potential to put freezing rain's damage back in the realm of the useful again. It's just a thought--we'll have to see.

    Regardless, it's a good power, but The Modern Mighty Storm defender approach doesn't rely on the formula of action involving a power like soul drain. I've used it in the past, and it's fun, but it forces you to play like a different kind of defender for a few seconds, since typically you are managing a kind of distributed situation, and not personally attempting to catch all the birds with a single jagged shard of granite, so to speak (nobody speaks this way).

    Dark consumption is fine, it's about as useful as conserve power if it works correctly, and about as useful as a husband on gameday if it doesn't.

    The oppressive gloom aura is panic-inducing (for the user) because of the hitpoint drain, but isn't really that bad. It's more or less a requirement for the diso queen build.

    Dominate is a single target hold. It does what you expect. Recharge reasonable, range is ok.

    Mass hypnosis is, ironically, very useful for The Mighty Storm defender who's getting used to their role (at level 50? Sure, there's still stuff to learn). It allows you to deal with an unintended extra pull while debuffing, or to simple be certain that your intended pull-victim is isolated from his/her comrades. It's feasible to make this sleep recharge fast enough to reapply before it expires, and have enough duration or accuracy to guarantee you get everybody.

    I giggled when I first saw telekinesis, but since then I've tried it on a controller, and come back to try it on a defender, and in both cases, while the *method* is highly useful, it has no synergy with storm, which is *already* endurance intensive, and *already* has ways to push a large group back. In fact, you virtually never wish to just make 'everybody go that way'. I used this for a while to torment herding tanks, but eventually gave up.

    Finally there's electricity.

    now electricity has a crappy immobilize and a hth attack which suffers the same drawbacks as total focus--though you don't have to eat the entire [censored] sandwich to get at it. It allegedly does splash damage 'like shadow maul'--this according to Camma, and she seems fairly trustworthy (suspicious covert glance). The immobilize is -knockback. If you intend to use tornado to kill single targets, I hope you drink heavily, and I suggest you try the electric epic ppool. The final power is endurance recovery similar to the dark power. I review it similarly.

    The Armors:
    Power: smash/lethal
    Dark: smash/lethal/neg eng
    Psy: smash/lethal/psy
    Electric: smash/lethal/energy

    for comparison
    Steamy mist: cold/energy/fire/confuse

    So, power is the crappiest, but is in a great epic pool.
    Dark is great if you intend to fight circle of thorns in your late career. God help you if you do. Otherwise equivalent to power, since the only things that use dark are a couple praetorians, and council vamps.
    Elec can help you max your energy resist which is a substantial portion of the damage you take from the likes of crey, rikti, praes, and damn near anything else. It can be a useful advantage.
    Finally there's psy. Psy is used by all the most irritating enemies, and you don't have any base resists to it. At first, resisting psy sounds great. Except it doesn't resist the secondary effects that often come with it, and you don't have enough resist in just the shield to really deal with the heavy psy attacks that come at you. You're a storm defender, not a scrapper. You don't have the hitpoints to take advantage of just 22.5% damag mitigation. If you beef it up to 45%.. well that's substantial. But that weighed against nigh invulnerability to energy? Hard to say.

    What it means is that, of the sets, Dark is required for a certain specialized build. Power is solid and you probably can't go wrong. Psy sounds good, and might appeal to someone who wants to play at a slower pace, or heavily in team environments.

    The only set that you might take all 4 powers in is dark, but again, try that if you like the flavor, not because you think it's the thing to do.

    Above all, if you're short on powers from the storm set, try to fill those out instead of sacrificing for Epic slots.

    Chapter Superbowl XL: Diso-Queens and Tornado Fiends

    The Diso Queen is a build relying on disorient as much as possible. You take thunderclap, and darkblast so you can get dark pit. Then you also take the epic dark pool for the aoe disorient there. You slot tornado half for recharge and half for disorient, and make the most of the staggering. Specifically, in the late levels, I use steamy mist and Oppressive gloom to air-drop in the middle of potential victimes, thunderclap, dark pit, then I use the epic dark power Soul Drain to enhance my damage, drop freezing rain, and use my aoe blasts (usually the final tier blast blackstar). This overwrought tactic was for my own amusement and I can't say, even after using it for a while, that it was substantially better than simply taking advantage of my storm powers with the disorient as sideline-curiosity of sorts. I considered using psy blast instead at one point, but I never leveled a psy up to the epic pool range in order to fully realize the tactic that way. This build tended to leave hurricane off alot.

    The Tornado fiend is amuse-ment laden. It's not necessarily a good build. The theory is to maximize tornado, [step two missing], and then profit. Hasten and max recharge in tornado. Then take whirlwind with max end redux, and psy-tornado with recharge redux as well. The benefits of this routine were in whirlwind's ability to keep you 'unlocked' so you could move around, and reliance on tornados and psy tornado to educate me in making the most of these pets and aoes. I don't think I would have started utilizing tornado usefully if it hadn't been for the effort in this arbitrary build.

    Chapter 7, as it turns out (I went back and counted): Slotting

    This is short and sweet as I don't see the point in 'if you want this then do this' nonsense. That's for you to decide. I'm recommending a certain slotting. My only equivocation will be a couple alterations for pvp vs pve. Furthermore the below will be ideal slotting for storm powers only. You will need to budget slots out of storm powers and into other powers or visa versa to accomodate your own playstyle and emphasis.

    Gale: 2 acc, 1 recharge
    O2 boost: 1 recharge
    snow storm: 3 slows, 3 end redux
    steamy mist: 3 resistence, 3 end redux
    Freezing rain: 3 recharge redux, 3 end redux (3 recharge, 3 def debuff in pvp)
    Hurricane: 3 acc debuff, 3 end redux (3 acc debuff, 2 knockback, 1 end redux in pvp)
    Thunderclap: 2 disorient, 1 acc (3 recharge and 3 acc in pvp)
    Tornado: 3 recharge, 3 damage (3 recharge, 3 knockback for pvp)
    Lstorm: 3 recharge, 3 damage

    Note, I'm not the end all and be all of pvpers. So don't assume I'm claming specialized expertise. But I've played pvp as a stormy, and I preferred more knockback slotting, since the effects are typically brief, the def debuff for dealing with pff turtling MMs or super-reflex stalkers. The thunderclap is designed for reapplication, since all mezzes are virtually useless while someone has inspirations, but unstoppable without them. Keeping tclap on a quick timer helps to deplete insps and take advantage of vulnerability. It's mainly for toggle-dropping.

    Chapter 8: Admissions of weakness

    I used to think this Powerset was the only game in town. I couldn't play anything else for more than a few hours before getting chills and the shakes (vanilla mint chip). Between ED, Suppression, changes to pushback and AI behavior, Suppression, and the pvp alterations to Hurricane, the global def nerf, and stealth suppression, not to mention suppression, it's a set that has frustrated and saddened me. However, even given all these changes (changes like Suppression), I find few types of heroes worth playing, and my villain career feels like I've lost an old friend (no storm for villains).

    As a storm defender, you are the concept of the tanker that most of us envisioned if/when we were ever attracted to that AT. You are a powerful monster in close combat, who can crash through the enemy's ranks, causing chaos, and mopping up while enemy is off balance. You can take on dozens of enemies, as long as you use your assets to keep them off-balance (Tops with skin: pattern 5). Yet, rather than being a huge green guy without shoes, or some kind of orange candy with a blue diaper, you're an elegant and nimble weilder of nature's wrath. The satisfying collusion between outcome and visual theme make this the best set in the game as far as I'm concerned. I don't *care* if the green-fart rad squad can do more actual debuffing and buffing. I don't *care* that an inv tank can herd Protazoa in a bikini. Fire tanks are for people who like fire.

    ...

    I leave you wiht one final thought.

    the Epic Electric pool has no cone-attack in it. Electricity with the convenience of a cone would be wonderful. But it isn't. It's not.

    Thanks to all those people out there that made this guide possible. Quason for telling me to stop whining when I threatened to quit over suppression. MrQuizzles for contradicting me in this way that seems like a reflex, but is nevertheless charming. Gammaraystorm because apparently he *also* wants the damn customizable powers feature so he can have green storm clouds (man that would be HOT). ZealotOnAStick for being inscrutable. I can't scrute him anyway. Avonlea for saying something nice that one time. Lady Mage for her Avatar. Altaholic monkey for her elusiveness.

    Additional thanks to all the empaths out there who, despite all the prejudice and persecution they suffer from misunderstandings and sexual predators, maintain, not only a sense of humor, but also the good health of a *lot* of stupid players who should be debt capped by now.

    Please place suggestions in a place.




  8. they actually haven't said it would be hard to do. They just said that it's not already set up to do things that way. They consider it low priority. It's not necessarily difficult.

    Regardless, there's two simple fixes.

    1) The 'trainer' isn't a person, it's a computer/communication screen that you use to transmit your records to Paragon/Rogue Isles and receive an update to your security/threat level. Like an ATM for the super-powered. Those 'trainers' are just models. They don't have to be people. They can be similar to the 'radio' contact in CAD. Then the explanation of how it has to be someone with high-level authority in both cities can be ignored.

    2) as someone already said, making the door guards trainers works fine. Nobody is supposed to get in the wrong side anyway.
  9. There should be an arachnos Quartermaster making out with a Freedom Corps agent in a secluded corner; their forbidden love drives them to give influence and infamy to whoever approaches them!

    They should be named romeo and juliet. And their love should be coded to be eternal.
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    Which ones are worth it? The button-mashing damage dealers sure don't know, and I am beginning to become skeptical about their effectiveness. Flash arrow rocks, I know that, but other than that....someone please let me know if poison gas, acid, or disruption arrow is worth it.

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    I recently fixed the Sleep portion of Poison Gas Arrow for all AT's, and fixed the fact that it was single target instead of AoE for Masterminds and Controllers. So, that one may be a bit better than folks are reporting in I7.

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    Ah HA! So it *wasn't* just my fevered imagination.
  11. I've got a few concerns about this whole thread in no particular order.

    -in what sense was a single player game ever a 'role playing game'? If you're going to say that living out a predestined role written by someone else is roleplaying, then books and storytelling are roleplaying for the readers and listeners. I do no think this is the way most people consider the word. Roleplaying is a specific kind of escapism. Not all escapism is roleplaying. Final fantasy is a game in which you do simple learned-response tasks from a kind of localized perspective around a few characters which are on a railroad track to destiny. I don't have a problem with that, per se, it's just that it's not, nor has it ever been, roleplaying. Grand theft Auto 3 is more roleplaying than final fantasy. I would even go so far as to say games like KOTOR which are basically just a binary choice in terms of the eventual outcome, aren't really roleplaying games, since you don't select the role--they're almost like real-life in the sense that you're stuck picking frmo the options you're given, whereas I think of a roleplaying game as being bound up heavily in choice of where and what you are going to be doing. You may not have a choice once you *get* there, but rolling up that spellsword with a pet ostrich was your idea, and it was your idea to play the flute badly in front of that gnoll, and now you're about to be eaten alive, and it was all a result of your idea. You've just learned that you probably couldn't make it as a member of The Crimson Glamour's Ostrich Cavalry--but at least it was your choice to try.

    -'tourism' or any similar concepts meant to separate the 'real' roleplayer from the casual civilian sort of person are elitist and lame. The only thing that separates most people from hardcore roleplayers is social graces. Seriously. Try watching Underworld Evolution on opening night--I think a fat girl dropped a d20 while talking loudly about how a vampire would really drink blood during some quiet on-screen dialogue. Roleplaying (and gaming in general) are fringe activities. They're moving more mainstream, and that just means that a wider assortment of human shortcomings will be on display in the various communities (hooray!) rather than the narrowly defined shortcomings of those who felt outcast in highschool (raises hand).

    -MMOs aren't games. I don't mean that they can't be games. It's just that none of them are. So many concessions are made to equal footing for all players, and management of the huge amount of effort required to run one (both computing wise and content wise) that there's no game left. Even City of Heroes, which I like is probably about the equivalent of pong in terms of gaming. It requires you to know when to move, and there's some reaction time involved, and that's really it. Most elements are discreely coded to interact the same way every time (in the sense that x damage vs x resistence will always produce the same result, regardless of when you hit the button, or what direction you're facing or how close or whatever else). MMO's are essentially just chat programs with interesting shared stories (or not interesting as the case may be). It's a place for socialization primarily, and not gaming per se, that's why they're popular. Socializing is what people do, and an MMO exists really only for that point. Even if you're soloing and only come in tangential contact with other people, it's still equivalent to being on the playground with other kids, so to speak. Which is better than being alone.

    -People have been playing MMOs long before there was a real concept of computerized entertainment. People who had the money would buy stuff and show it to each other, and have parties, and talk about irrelevant stuff. They'd listen to music together and either discuss it or just relax. People go to restaurants. They follow the career of artists and enjoy the experience of just standinga round in a field while somebody rocks on stage.

    These activities are essentially identical to what MMOs provide. Except an MMO does 3 things that normal socialization doesn't do. 1) It provides escapism in the fantastic sense 2) It provides convenience on a level undreamt of even 20 years ago and 3) it provides anonymity and safety in the social environment.

    MMOs will probably get more popular and more sophisticated, and less rigidly defined. Some day the online roleplaying experience will probably be more similar to something like GURPS where you join a network of games that take place in different worlds but with similar controls and rules (so that you can easily translate knowledge about one system to another) and then you'll just go with whichever appeals to aesthetically.

    but ... 'consumed by popular culture'. That's something the unpopular kid says when she doesn't get invited to the slumber party. Popular culture doesn't consume things. You're talking about human nature. All that acceptance by popular culture betokens is refinement. Is the concept refined and distilled enough for the human animal to appreciate it across a broad base of experiences and attitudes?

    Nobody's losing anything. If you want to hang out around a table talking about how half-orcs get made and giggling in your Mountain Dew, you'll always be able to do that.
  12. No power is intended to be effective. If a power does what it appears to do by the description, then it is malfunctioning and needs to be brought in line with the rest of the powers.

    I'm curious as to how Whirlwind stacks up against Repel now, since they're similar powers. Is whirlwind substantially more expensive?
  13. Positron, you're really not in a position to know what you did or why. Please stop polluting this thread with your silly personal theories about why the devs put a character in the game or didn't. Obviously, you have no idea what the devs are thinking. Plus you are not in full posession of the facts.

    I hate it when people post in these threads claiming that they know why something is the way it is when they clearly couldn't *possibly* know one way or the other.

    I'd correct you and tell you the *real* reason that Positron put Jenkins in the game, Positron, but I just don't have that kind of time to spend clearing up your spurious claims.
  14. Mr. Ge... Gec... Geico... Mr. Lizard.

    Mr. Lizard... Does this 'new tech' hold any promise of a world in which transfusion and similar mob-based powers might still *work* if you cast the power in time to see the effect, but the mob dies before the numbers appear? It just seems to me that it would be *awfully* nice if you could somehow apply this new tech so that the various villain-centered effects didn't stop when the villain went body-parts up.

    I realize it's two different things. I suppose that the mob-centered effects are similar to toggles which turn themselves off after 1 'tick' of effect. But could you possibly do a glue-arrow kind of thing where the location of the target becomes the spawn for an invisible pet that does it's thing and then despawns? That would be AWFULLY NICE OF YOU MR. AMPHIBIMAN.
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    Fulcrum Shift is a little nutty, I probably shouldn't have used it as an example.

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    Bad Coder! BAD! No caffeine for you!
  16. Fine. No beards and flat chested isn't plausible?

    How does this grab you. The circle of thorns specialized long ago in diverse magics, but it was found that men had a talent for manipulating minds and the elements, while women had a talent for possessing spirits and summoning demons. Today, when a hero ventures into Orenbega nad confronts a Behemoth, he is confronting a female CoT member.

    This explains the lack of external genitalia on the Behemoths.
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    CoT. Succubi are female, but some of the mages ought to be too.

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    ... when you're using magic for a long time, you grow a beard and lose your bust. Arctic Sun is going to include that tidbit when he redoes the CoT background.
  18. Longbow and other difficult mobs have saved the game for me. Do not nerf them please.

    by difficult, I do not mean CoT. They're just stupid. There's nothing difficult or easy about being held and unable to move or act.

    I like longbow because they're offensively potent, and I have to be awake to fight them sometimes (not usually).
  19. TheMightyStorm

    FYI

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    I thought of something...I bet the reason they are paying attention to Defenders is probably because we complain the least of any AT.


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    Actually, I have been kicking and screaming about defenders for awhile. Add a few polite PMs with pertinent links, some mild begging and it is amazing what you can get a person who really does care about this game to do. The devs don't respond to everything that goes on around here but they take note of things. I expect that some things they expect, these changes don't go in untested they expect some feedback, it is when the feedback is not what they expected that I think they sit-up and take notice. Obviously a clear cut description in detail of what a player thinks is of issue with the game is much easier for them to read, and kudos for Blueeyed taking up the mantle here on the defender forums.

    However, the devs are not omniscient. Something very important may get added to that list and they can very easily miss it. Thus, when issues become important to us it is important to discuss them fully and explore them fully not only for ourselves but just so that a developer wandering by has an opportunity to see just what issue is simmering on the pot currently. It may be something that they had no idea could even be an issue. On the other hand it may be something that they expected and can actually settle fairly quickly.

    While complaining can be seen as a negative, our concerns about the game are a great tool for the developers to create a positive experience for the players who do not read these forums and simply play the game.

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    Most intelligent thing I have ever read here. I mean intelligent intelligent, TMS is in a whole other category with her intelligent comedy.
    You deserve 6 stars and to become the winner of the dev for a day contest.

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    For one thing, I object to this idea that my comedy is intelligent.

    For another, I think we've thoroughly discussed the 'ruhelar' issue and yet the devs still have not responded by adding 'healer' to the swear-filter in game.

    Until they do, I don't buy this whole 'discuss and ye shall receive' routine. I think they ignore all the really good discussions anyway. The ones where very little is accomplished; those are my favorite (irony).
  20. TheMightyStorm

    FYI

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    I grabbed a copy of the "Defender Issues" post a couple weeks ago and am working through it in my spare time. Considering the length of it, I will probably have gotten through it sometime in Janurary.

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    mate with me.
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    Actually, I was talking about Skills, not crafting.

    What's the difference? In the end, crafting yields a usable commodity. In Skills, you might have unlocked a door or opened a safe or whatever....if I could guarantee that clicking on a computer could yield as cool a reward as an Enhancement, well, that'd be something. But the problem is that there are only a few computers in the world (and missions), whereas crafting is rather unlimited. One needs to undergo risk to gather resources (let's use Salvage as an example), but there isn't much risk in clicking on a computer.

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    Are you kidding? Of course there's risk! I risk that the *next* time I have to click on something, it's the time I snap and set out to blow up the server farm so that the game can never tell me to click on something ever again.

    Look, this cute little 'risk reward' thing is so silly. The only 'risk' is to OLD OLD OLD PEOPLE who might *conceivably* be SO limited that they actually can't operate a computer and make it through all the time-burning tasks we normally are required to perform.

    There has not been a SINGLE thing in this game that has presented me 'risk' in the entire time I've played it. Other than in the sense that I 'risked' spending 20 minutes to accomplish something which might take as little as 15.

    Statesman, *you* are a tremendous hippy when it comes to this risk and reward thing. We are not finding food for our family on the serengeti. We are trying to have fun. If you can make something that's fun that doesn't involve risk you've made... OMGOSH! The game that's already here! It's fun and involves no risk!

    I mean seriously. Is Dating fun because of the risk of rejection? Is sex fun because there's a small chance that your lover will lose his erection and you'll spiral into a sense of depression over whether you're not sexy enough or what you did wrong, or whether you just don't emotionally connect? Is raising a child fun because it could DIE?! Is it fun to play with toys because a bully might come over and kick you and steal them?! HUH?>! IS THAT FUN!? YOU CREEPY SADIST!!!!

    anyway. I think crafting is a timesink that's unfair to the people who get into it. But it would be nice if there were some more puzzle-like things in the game. They don't have to be riddles or limerics or something silly like that. They can be like the lock-picking minigames in Theif or Splinter Cell.
  22. TheMightyStorm

    Accuracy

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    Over the 4 day weekend, I left my computer running with Eviscerate on Autoattack. (Both my target and my character were set to not take damage so there was no worry about killing each other.)

    I attacked a total of 38917 times.
    I hit 29275 times.
    I missed 9642 times.

    That is a 75.22% overall to hit chance against an even level critter with no defense powers.

    There is no "Accuracy Wrap Around" -- otherwise Blasters with Targetting Drone + Aim + Build Up would never, ever hit, which is not the case.

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    there's *something* funky going on with accuracy. It may be that a blaster with TD, Aim, and BU has wrapped so far they're back at the cap.

    But when I pop an accuracy insp, it's my experience that the first attack thereafter does not benefit; and aim seems to behave this way as well, especially against even level guys. Against oranges and higher, it's not as noticeable. Though, since they're harder to hit anyway *shrug*.

    I wish they'd relent and allow the accuracy cap to be 100%, but with a diminish-return-on-buffs so that the practical cap on it was in the 98% range.

    in fact if accuracy had diminishing returns on buffs and debuffs, without actual hard caps, it would probably make acc and defense more usable in pvp. Assuming you hit the balance on the numbers right.
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    Unflappable sense of humor required. You will also need a brain, and a bathing suit, in case we go swimming.

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  24. you know, the image this evokes is a thing of absolute beauty.
  25. the explanation, if you need one, is that a miss isn't a 'miss' it's a failure to do damage. For instance the electrical blast set always *hits*--the target gets the particle effect connected to it. But it fails to have a result. It goes back to pen and paper games where 'hitpoint' systems weren't enough for most people since, logically, as you got beat-up, you should be sadder-sack and be doing less damage, an dhave less access to your skills or whatever. So hybrid systems developed with things like being tough working as armor. So the enemies would 'miss' you, but in reality it's that they hit you but you don't care, you beefy man-meat, you. The idea is that the explosion happened by the person didn't get burned in a damaging way. Maybe their suit deflected the badness. Maybe they just happened to be standing in a microscopic high pressure front.

    anything is possible with The Vision