SteelRat

I'll have the goat then.

What? I grew up on a farm. Herbivores is all I know.

I've gotta be honest, I stopped reading that thread once it derailed into a discussion about religion.


To be fair, I think Codewalker was the only one that actually answered him. Everyone else attempted to deflect the questions with "humourous" or belittling replies, or with (like, I think you did) "They don't".

I do accept that just because you take an active role in what goes on over at Titan, you're not immediately a governing member, nor are you directly responsible or answerable to every activity by every member, if someone asks (albeit it ad nauseum) what they feel to be a legitimate and direct question, why does it take 3 pages of hyperbole and insults for them to get a direct answer?

Good luck with that.. I don't think that the CoH devs were any more or less guilty of undelivered promises than any other dev team I've ever seen, although I realise that's a largely subjective opinion.

Probably better just to play a game you like and base it on what there IS rather than what you're told as a player by the people that make it want you to believe there might be? Some may call me a pessimist; I just prefer to think I've got realistic expectations.

Business as usual then?

Although you state this is something that is glaringly obvious the tone of some posts seems to indicate (at least to me) that some are trying to suggest that it's transcended beyond that and in some way has elevated to special status. It hasn't. It is what it is and that doesn't change how ever misty eyed and sentimental your approach to it



I'm sorry, but I really take exception to that remark. Why do you feel pity for me because I didn't jump in to the social bandwagon that tends to come along with online games? I can count the number of people that I didn't find either a self opinionated idiot, or a loud mouthed cretinous idiot on one hand by enlarge. I still enjoyed the game and still made friends though. Those people I enjoy playing other games with as well. And that's my point - if the CoH community is made up of swell guys n gals, then surely you keep in touch and play other games with them don't you?

If not, you have my condolences. Nothing sucks more than fair weather friends.

I do get that.. but most games and past times share that to some degree or another. CoH isn't a special case in that regard. It's worth mentioning too, that the CoH community isn't always all fluff and daisies either. It's fine if you're in that little clique that agrees with everything, but if you're not, you might as well not exist unless you say something contrary to the popular norm.



Just like every other past time. CoH is no different. Additionally if you think there is no clique in CoH, and that we're all one big happy family, you are really sorely mistaken.



I stand by my original point. Communities are made by two things: A common interest, and most importantly the people who share it. Both things will be there should elements of the CoH community transfer to other games. In that case, therefore, the only reason that the sense of community will not exist within the CoH players that play those other games is simply because they weren't all that wonderful in the first place.

I'm not entirely sure why you think that just because I don't agree with a lot of the rhetoric in this post I shouldn't remain civil, so whilst your thanks are appreciated, they're really not required.

It might be easy and simpleminded, but as Occams Razor states, "the simplest answer to even given problem is usually the correct one."

Once you and Captain Electric have wiped the backs of your hands, perhaps you both should remember this when you criticise people for having the audacity to have a view point that contradicts your own.

I may not agree with peoples viewpoints or I may question the basis on which they reach them, but I'm damn sure I'm not going to try and prevent people from a) having them and b) expressing them on a public forum.

Couple of points of fact here: firstly CoH has been in steady decline for a number of years. There was no plateau of core players that kept it steady. However much this might surprise people businesses tend not to close down a healthy revenue stream without a really good reason. They didn't do it just to spite us.

Secondly I would imagine that when NCSoft took the decision to close the game down, the backlash of the players was probably in some respect actually taken in to consideration. Granted, perhaps not on the scale that SaveCoH has evolved into, but I can't believe for a moment that it's taken them by surprise. There was on this basis, probably a contingency to deal with such a thing.

Thirdly, 20,000 people signed the CoH petition. 2,000,000 copies of GW2 were bought within a very short time of its release. That right there is people voting with their wallet. If you think a few cross words on twitter or Facebook are going to sway the tide of the gaming majority then I'd strongly suggest visiting your optician and swapping out those rose tinted specs for a more standard variety.