SonicRemedy

I know what you mean, I have been working on my Elec/Ice/Ice Dom and hes just insanely fun to play. If have haven't tried the ice pool all I have to say is Electric Cages>Sleet>Ice Storm So much fun to see'em still bounce with the electric cages on em :X '

As for the TFs, I will not spoil them for you but expect some big surprises!

The cardiac boost, and all boosts for that matter, apply an enhancement value to all powers that can be slotted with that particular enhancement. Essentially it is like slotting all of your powers with say, End Reduction. Here's a lowdown on what you can expect at Tier 2:

Char:
Current - 6.43
With Tier 2 Alpha - 5.149

Stone Spears:
Current - 5.2
With Tier 2 Alpha - 3.91

Fire Cages:
Current - 15.6
With Tier 2 Alpha - 9.39

Stone Mallet:
Current - 8.528
With Tier 2 Alpha - 4.893

Combat Jumping:
Current - 0.065
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.037

Hot Feet:
Current - 0.564
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.502

Hasten:
Current - NA
With Tier 2 Alpha - NA

Flashfire:
Current - 11.72
With Tier 2 Alpha - 9.390


Boxing:
Current - 3.128
With Tier 2 Alpha - 2.536


Power Boost:
Current - 7.8
With Tier 2 Alpha - 5.865

Cinders:
Current - 15.6
With Tier 2 Alpha - 11.729

Tough:
Current - 0.325
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.244

Heavy Mallet:
Current - 6.77
With Tier 2 Alpha - 5.767

Super Speed:
Current - 0.455
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.342

Weave:
Current - 0.257
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.204

Seismic Smash:
Current - 11.46
With Tier 2 Alpha - 9.583

Maneuvers:
Current - 0.255
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.210

Fire Imps:
Current - 21.45
With Tier 2 Alpha - 16.861

Mud Pots:
Current - .4
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.372

Fissure:
Current - 11.41
With Tier 2 Alpha - 9.137

Sleet:
Current - 14.87
With Tier 2 Alpha - 12.264

Frozen Armor:
Current - .257
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.204

Hoarfrost:
Current - 18.2
With Tier 2 Alpha - 13.684

Hibernate:
Current - .325
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.244

Sprint:
Current - .293
With Tier 2 Alpha - 0.220

So as you can see it brings down your stuff quite a bit. Oh, and just to let you know your end drain goes from:

2.41s
to
1.993s

with and End Gain of 3.22s your new end gain would be 1.227s instead of 0.806s.

So, that's how the Second Tier of the cardiac slot would effect you.

I would like to add my notes on the Spiritual Slot and its effects on Perma Hasten and Domination.
Spiritual Boost and Your Dom W/H Hasten

So, I was sitting here playing with doms and seeing what atrocity I could come up with and I looked at Earth/Psy. First though was lot of AoE controls + Drain Psyche + soft capped S/L = droolz. Not to mention throwing on Perma-Doma nd Perma-Hasten for extra win.

Now, my question is do we have alot of Earth/Psys here that can chime in on this. I don't know how well the damage would be but it does appear it would be very survivable. What are your opinions?

Not a /Elec, I went Ice. I took it and slotted it with 4 pieces of basalisk gaze, if I had more I would have added a Endoplasam. Also, if you going for smash/lethal cap remember that buildup is a nice for a two piece of Rectafided Reticle for a 1.875 Smash/Lethal defense boost.

If no one has mentioned it Doms get APPs now. All I can say is Ice Mastery.... Ice Mastery Everywhere.... oh and welcome back

So, I got to thinking, how much exactly does alpha slot effect hasten and the required levels of recharge needed for it to be perma, and by proxy, permadom as well. So I began to crunch numbers just to see. So, I began to run the numbers to see exactly how much global recharge was now needed to keep hasten perma and its effects on domination. For the calculations I went with hasten 3 slotted with recharge IO's at level 50. The states for hasten below assume that its running for a 70% global bonus.

No Bonuses at all except slotting IO's
Hasten
Pre ED - 127.20%
Post ED - 99.08%
Base Recharge - 450s
Current Recharge - 167.24s (without global bonuses)

Domination
Base Recharge - 200
Current Recharge - 117.65s (without global bonuses)

Now, the goal of this experiment will be to get hasten down to 119.99 or lower with a solid percentage of global recharge.

Tier 1
Spiritual Boost -
33% Recharge Bonus, 5.5% Unaffected by ED, 27.5% Affected by ED.
Global Recharge Needed - 97
Hasten Value - 119.77s
Domination Recharge - 74.91s

Tier 2
Spiritual Radial & Core Boost -
33% Recharge Bonus, 11% Unaffected by ED, 22% Effected by ED
Global Recharge Needed - 92
Hasten Value - 119.88s
Domination Recharge - 76.34s

Tier 3
Spiritual Partial Core Revamp, Total Radial Revamp, & Partial Radial Revamp -
33% Recharge Bonus, 16.5% Unaffected by ED, 16.5% Effected by ED
Global Recharge Needed - 87
Hasten Value - 119.98s
Domination Recharge - 77.82s

Spiritual Total core Revamp -
45% Recharge Bonus, 22.5% Unaffected by ED, 22.5% Effected by ED
Global Recharge Needed - 81
Hasten Value - 119.98s
Domination Recharge - 79.68s

Tier 4
Spiritual Radial Paragon -
33% Recharge, 22% Unaffected by ED, 11% Effected by ED
Global Recharge Needed - 83
Hasten Value - 119.77s
Domination Recharge - 79.05s

Spiritual Core Paragon -
45% Recharge, 30% Unaffected by ED, 15% Effected by ED
Global Recharge Needed - 74
Hasten Value - 119.89s
Domination Recharge - 81.97s

Now, again I would like to note that these values are with Hasten active. As for domination it was calculated without the Incarnate boost but it was calculated with hasten. If you were to take hasten out of the equation you would have to make up 70% in global bonuses. If someone wants to check my math then please do as it is late. My hopes was to help those going for the Spiritual Boost path to be able to calculate how much recharge they would actually need for a baseline since we can't double stack hasten without zoning.

So as you can see it still keeps domination perma but for those of you like me who like your blue bar to fill up faster and some oh spit time for when you forget to activate it it may be a little more prudent to add some more global recharge.

Also, if you wish to check the numbers yourself look below:
Note: Here is the formula I used for those who want to know but didn't and for those who did know can ignore this -

Well the good thing about the alpha slot is that when all is said and done you can basically get a bonus 30% Global Recharge and 15% Enhancement value to your powers. So looking at it that way you could loose 30% global recharge and still maintain the same values. It looks like you have done so and gone if favor of the Kinetic Combats

At first I was a bit worried about your accuracy but then I remembered that your a SS and that went out the window XD

I think that the biggest thing that you would have to worry about is your End Drain. I mean, your at a gain of 3.1 (3.98 with a full Consume) and at a loss of 1.93. Now, with Consume your end may not be as bad. However with the normal recharge rate of 85.35 it seems like a long time between End refreshes. So the only pick I really see is working on the end usage. And even thats not terrible.

Now, on the plus side with the final Alpha Slot if you go the 45% Recharge/33% Healing/33% Stun then you can get Healing Flames down to a 14.64 second recharge and 54.68% Healing bonus and Consume down to 70.5 recharge. Assuming any of my math is correct though XD

See I thought I was thinking about it too much. I had noticed others were using some formula when checking there attack chain. I thought it was more then the arcana time formulas XD Oh well, no harm no foul. Thanks for the help

Edit : Oops, looked at my title. Its a little misleading. Sorry about that. XD It should have been "Calculating Recharge Times for Attack Chain"

Ok, I was looking into Arcanatime and looking at examples of calculating recharge needed for DPS and I esentially want to know if I have it figured out.

So, lets look at Dark Melee

Looking at the attacks
Shadow Punch - 1.056 Animation - 3 Second Base Recharge
Smite - 1.188 Animation - 6 Second Base Recharge
Siphon Life - 2.112 Animation - 10 Second Base Recharge
Midnight Grasp - 2.244 Animation - 15 Second Base Recharge

An attack chain of :
Shadow Punch > Smite > Siphon Life > Midnight Grasp

would require recharge reduction of each power by:
54% > 111% > 223% > 344%

Now, if this is correct is the formula:
(base recharge of attack) / (cast times of other attacks) -1 = recharge buff

Does that mean that the percents calculated above already have 100% recharge enhancement through IOs/SOs and that's the global recharge needed or is it that attack chain respectively or does that mean that's the total needed through enhancements and global recharge?

Also, just as an add on questions:

I know that the formula for recharge reduction is:
Base Attribute / ( 1 + Total enhancement amount )

However, how does global recharge effect that? Is it:
Base Attribute / ( 1 + Total enhancement amount + Global Recharge)

or is it something more?

Appreciate the help you masters of DPS you

Well, I have been playing this brute for a bit now, up to 44 But now I am at a bit of a standstill. After looking through multiple threads and discussions I am trying to decide whether or not to keep the Sweeping Strike and Attack Vitals or take one or the other. With little to no recharge bonuses I have been able to keep a constant attack chain with the only thing but the thought of putting in three more powers and 15 more slots sounds good too. Now, my thoughts on the two are that the Attack Vitals chain seems like nice dps with the bonus of a great cone tick where as the sweep combo seems to be more aoe centered with the bonus of 2 knockdowns for added damage mitigation. Now, I know that each have there advantage like the Attack Vitals almost seems like it would be more suited against AVs and high hp targets where as the Sweep combo seems better for taking out groups of enemies enmass.

So, whats your milage? How the attack chain on yours?

You do make a good point about the widow. I forgot about there ability to poison which does go with the concept. Still considering the scrapper though because of the higher DDR. Although I do have the widow with perma mind link easily as well was over soft cap defenses so it does have some DDR as well. The only difference in the attack chain for the widow though is lunge. Thanks for the advice, I think I may play both up to 20ish 30ish and see which I enjoy more. Now i just have to go back into mids and make sure I can soft cap by 30 ~ 35. Sure that wont be too hard.

So, sitting at my computer one night I reminisced of my old RO days and the Assassins I've played and I got to thinking... how very close a Claws/SR scrapper was to it. Hard to hit, fast attacks, and even critting. Now, there are a few questions I have about /SR before I venture forth into scrapdom:

1. Attack Chain: Trying to stay in theme I wanted the fastest attack chain I could so I took Swipe, Strike, Slash. I realize this give me nothing in the way of AoEs but I was curious. If my recharge times were .65, 1.224, and 1.836 seconds respectively would this work as one continuous attack chain?

2. I have managed to make a build that soft-caps all positional defenses at 36. Now, how truly beastly do you feel. I have a few toons with S/L soft capped and they have some excellent survivability. Just wanted to hear for experienced players on the issue (Note I will have shadow meld and elude to help fight cascade effects)

3. I seem to have a end drain of 1.97 and a gain of only 3.17, is this deal-able?

4. For those who have played it, how was the ride? I know my mileage may vary but I'm still interested to hear your stories.

So feel free to answer, I always appreciate the advice.

Well one thing to consider is since you have the fury gauge there to help you with damage and setting up a steady attack chain usually is more important then setting up a damage bonus in my book you could go for the spiritual slot. Not only is it effecting your recharge but your healing bonus as well. So you'll regen better and your stuff will come back even faster. Its nice that 2/3s of the bonus wont be effected by ED when we get the final level of the alpha slot. So essentially you can get a 30% bonus to recharge and 22% bonus to healing. I ran some numbers and on the brute I'm helping with it gave him a good extra 6-8 points of regen and sped up his attach chain some. Now, not to mention the Nerve can give you more accuracy, taunt and defense bonus so that you can play with your slots more on the build as you need to. Can't wait for the patch today, just hope it really is I19 this time XD

Edit: I look at my previous post now and cant help but realize Im repeating myself but I can't force my self to delete the post XD So skip by some of the info in here as needed.

I would suggest taking out the Luck of the Gambler: Defense in combat jumping and replacing it with Kismet: Accuracy +6%. That little Kismet helps you to hit more reliably when your aim is down considering how infrequently the build up proc goes off in it as well. Secondly, unless its for concept I don't think you really need SS and SJ. Now, I would suggest dropping SS and taking Fearsome Stare. You could stick a Lyosome or Endoplasm in there to help it hit. Either way you get a nice group to-hit debuff and if they are afraid of you there not attacking you till you hit them. Other then that I like your power choices and slotting decisions. Now, the fearsome stare in this build may not be absolutely need but it is nice when you exemplar. However the Kismet would work wonders. If your not sold on the kismet at least use the -KB proc in Blessing of the Zephyr.

Don't forget to take phase shift so that when all the mobs think they see you they really just see everyone else. That or you could chill out in hibernate/PFF and just sit back and laugh like a madman

I may have to eat humble pie here. After playing with the build so more and going for sl defense specifically I was able to soft cap the S/L and still retain some good regen. Albiet, lowered amounts but still nice.

Overall to compare the builds

Now see the way I'm helping a friend of mine with his brute we went middle of the road with defense but a good level of regen.

His final numbers came out to be 33% for all typed def except psionic which sadly sits at 29.7% be hes healing 79.74hp a sec with one enemy in range and 128.14 hp a sec when hes has 10 or more. Not to mention he only has a end use of 1.21% and an end recover of 4.48% with 3 separate procs that have a chance of giving him back 10% end. Then I tossed in the pvp heal proc for flavor. Now this build in terms of INF is expensive but with the hero/villain merits system its much more manageable.

Now the S/L cap defense is not a bad idea but I felt like I was giving too much up on the brute to get it. Now if you get close to say 30% or 35% and pop a small purple you should still be at cap when you need it. Not to mention will power has nice T9 power with a minimal crash. Sure it doesn't make you a complete god like the others but you aren't left nearly helpless either like in the case of invul.

See, whats so nice about this build is that he still has room left to make use of both shields from sonics and forcefields and not to mention it will do well on its own when its done. The only purples was one full set of apocalypse but split into two groups for the hp regen bonuses. But this is just one mans take on willpower, for better or worse

Now, I am by no means a scrapper, however I do love to tweak builds and mess with numbers. So let me pose these questions below:

1. On average, how much regen/recovery is adequate for a /Regen scrapper?
2. Based on the answer to question 1 what if someone was able to reach said regen amount as well as 45% S/L def, how awesome would that be? Is it worth Dull Pain being 18.47s shy of perma?

Now bear in mind this question does not take into account the matter of purples but it does use a few pvp IO (obviously the gladiators defense proc)

So, opinions?

((Edit: Also, for informational purposes I am using a Electric/Regeneration as my target combo.))

On a latter note if you care not for the bouncy awesomeness of ice then you can always go for Mace Mastery and take Poisonous Ray, Scorpion Shield, and Disruptor Blast with this build and nothing will change.

I'm personally a big fan of Ice because I love rain powers. Not to mention you get one that does nice damage and one that makes em bounce. For you, toss in some confusion to keep em in the rain or, for me, elecs bounceable cages. As for a build you can not only get soft capped s/l but you can get permadom with a nice set up. Heres a build, some of the pieces are a bit pricy but if your patient and remember to do your tip missions then you shouldn't have to buy any. Not the fasted make me uber build but I think its one you will like when its done. Especially with Confuse on a 2.12 second timer and domination doubling the mag. Did I mention I love confuse XD Also, I have made some modifications to my mids to try and simulate the incarnate slot (cause I just can't wait) so Im sorry if the build doesn't import for ya.

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Mind Fire 1: Level 50 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Mind Control
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Assault
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Mesmerize -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 1: Flares -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 2: Dominate -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(9), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(42), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42), HO:Endo(43)
Level 4: Incinerate -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 6: Confuse -- CoPers-Conf/Rchg(A), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(34), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(36), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(37), CoPers-Conf%(37)
Level 8: Mass Hypnosis -- FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(17), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(17), FtnHyp-Acc/Rchg(31), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(34)
Level 10: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(11), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 16: Embrace of Fire -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Total Domination -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31)
Level 20: Combustion -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(21), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Oblit-%Dam(25)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Kick -- FrcFbk-Rechg%(A)
Level 26: Terrify -- N'mare-EndRdx/Fear(A), N'mare-Acc/EndRdx(27), N'mare-Acc/Fear/Rchg(27), N'mare-Acc/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(29)
Level 30: Consume -- Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(A), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(31)
Level 32: Mass Confusion -- Mlais-Acc/Rchg(A), Mlais-EndRdx/Conf(33), Mlais-Acc/EndRdx(33), Mlais-Conf/Rng(33), Mlais-Acc/Conf/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def(36), RedFtn-EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(42), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(46), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Blaze -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(39), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Sleet -- LdyGrey-Rchg/EndRdx(A)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def(45), RedFtn-EndRdx(45), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(45), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(46), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Ice Storm -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Domination
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Incarnate Spiritual -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), EndMod-I(5), EndMod-I(7)

First of all I want to thank all of you for the advice. I have found that options 2 and 3 were as lack luster as predicted. As for options one and two I found both pro and cons to each.

Option 1: Power Boost
After putting some thought into it and using it a bit more practically I am starting to warm up to it.
Pros:
Power Boosted Aid Self
Power Boosted Sleet
Power Boosted Sapping

Cons:
Having to remember to use it. (Somewhat alleviated with a key bind)

Option 2: Travel Power
Having lived without it this long makes me appreciate it so much more. Even now I am seeing what powers I can drop to keep both. However, if I had to choose I think in the end I will stick with Power Boost. Although I do miss my SS and CJ together. So much win there.