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Quote:The first blow was by Cole. We never attacked Praetorian Earth until they attacked us. Unless bombing Kings Row and Nerva weren't attacks.Cole didnt stop the Hamidon to become the champion, he stopped Hamidon to save the world. The well saw the strength of his words/persuasion and this convinced the well to make Cole its champion.
It has been proven many times in this thread that the first blow was struck by Primal Earth, Cole knew that if any sort of conflict with Primal Earth was to spill out into the open in Praetoria that the deal he had struck with Hamidon would be off.
Just thought i'ld correct you
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Quote:And if Cole were to win that fight, he just destroyed his own resources. Also I'd think he'd prefer us to win, primal heroes/villains or not, over Hamidon.Just curious, if in the same situation (being overrun and on the verge of defeat), would you allow any of your resources to be turned over to the enemy if it could be helped?
I think it's been established Cole realized the city had been evacuated by Primal Earth (if he would have nuked his own city without that detail is neither here or there)...so purging any potential foothold you can steal from him seems like a **** move, but if you think about those on the opposing team (some of them are power hungry and destructive villains), taking a "if you want to usurp me as the champion and defeat Hamidon, do it yourself. no cheating by using any of my junk" seems reasonable.
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If it's anything like the vanguard pack last year, then we'll be seeing it in the market late summer/early fall. Doubt it'd include the "Tempered Through Fire" badge though.
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Titan Weapon/Energy Aura brute with Ageless Destiny + Hasten. Oh god.
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Wait, people not using inspirations? IO'd and/or 50 I suppose, but I'd like to meet the guy who's gone through an entire Inspirationless playthrough 1-50.
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Quote:No. Cole told everyone he DEFEATED the Hamidon and they'd never have to worry about it again. He never defeated the Hamidon. He came to an agreement with it to become the well's champion. When he started the war with us, the Hamidon cut the deal off and decided to come take his city away soon anyways.What secret? That he turned Praetoria into a blissful utopia to save mankind from the devouring earth? What a fiend!
Also he's totally a hero, leaving all those people out in the ward and brainwashing the citizens in his utopia. What a hero.
I used to find Cole almost sympathetic but as of issue 23 he's lost it. He realized he lost and pulled a "If I can't have it no one can!" trick on us in the Mag trial.
Not sure how people aren't able to connect "Blowing up the entire F-ing city" and "Being a terrible and insane person". -
Meh. Super jump is fine the way it is.
Quote:If the Hulk was flailing his arms around every time he jumped, it would look pretty dumb.
As an alternate animation? Sure, I guess. As the new norm? No thanks. -
Since I don't reccomend fully IOing 'til later, I'd suggest try frankenslotting your toggles with a balance between end SOs and Defense/Resistance SOs.
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Fire/Fire/Fire as far as damage goes. Elec/Elec/Elec for variety and Ice/Ice/Ice for survivability.
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Quote:What do you mean "hero"?Wouldn't be the first hero they have killed off, recently, so I wouldn't put it past them. But here's hoping it's not permanent!
Also some Praetorians it's confirmed we killed:
Malaise
Praetor Tilman
Diabolique
Col. Duray(Well WE didn't...)
Nightstar & Siege
Possibly killed:
Anti-Matter
Tyrant(As of i23 trial)
Shadow Hunter(As of i23 trial)
Swan(I23 trial)
Chimera(I23 trial)
Neuron & Bobcat(Seeing as the message "Bobcat seeks vengeance!" appears across your screen...)
It IS a war, after all. -
He should've been booted to Atlas. Teleporter would be the only way, yeah.
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My characters all seem to turn purple and brown as dopplegangers.
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Doms looking pretty nice. Perhaps Fire/Earth. I have definitely wanted to try Plant/Psi Dom for awhile, though. The toon I have in mind is a villain whos being put on parole and forced to do hero stuff : P.
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Thugs/Dark. Thugs is hands down the best set if not robotics. They also don't grunt and snort like those demons ; ).
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Actually, Cole knew Hamidon was awake all along. He never beat Hamidon in the first place.
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Quote:While I'm glad he didn't get a face heel turn so we can get the climatic final battle with him, I'm almost sad he didn't get some epic moment of redemption and a final battle against Praetorian Hamidon to die as the hero Praetoria needed all along. I guess that's too anime of me, though.Right. As I've said, he was arguably a Hero at some point, but I prefer the term 'necessary evil', considering the state Praetoria is. Drugging and psychic-mind-washing your populace is not Heroic. At all. Even if your intentions are for the survival of all, that's not Heroic. Lawful Evil, maybe, if we need to use a tag.
A Hero once, a Villain once he came into power. A 'Necessary Evil', which quickly turned into 'Temper-Tantrum Child Scorned' when things didn't go his way. His role was played, and his villainy fully exposed. What MAY have once been a Hero, died long ago. -
Probably both. I'll have to come annoy-I mean talk to you sometime.
But yeah.
Tyrant's a lunatic now. He's reached that "Last Resort" stage villains get where all their cunningness fades and they go berserk. Zant in Twilight Princess is a blunt example. -
Whelp after rolling nothing but brutes and a stalker for the past five or six months, I haven't looked back. It's starting to get dull but I love my melee characters too much. Any reccomendations on a...Well, non-melee archetype/powerset? I played a blaster as my main in the past and really liked troller.
Never could make a good corr. -
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Quote:I don't think we need more incentive for hunting giant monsters. They aren't supposed to be farmed.
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So they're just suppossed to be ignored? Give a cool down on the reward table then, similar to Dark Astoria's solo arcs. If you chose "Threads" for one monster, you can't choose it for the next for another 20 hours. -