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That's Tornado from the Kinetics set?

I'll tackle the other half of this complaint: of course it'll be a tiny boost in power. People already solo AVs on every archetype. Lots of people blitz through maxed difficulty missions while watching Hulu. At that point ANY increase in power is going to be small -- when you're vaporizing every challenge, what's an "increase," shaving a few seconds off the experience? Diminishing returns applies.

This is pretty much a fact of mathematics, honestly. You can't possibly shave two hours off a Task Force you already do in 20 minutes.

It could be argued that increases in power will decrease your subjective experience of power. Right now only a few expensive builds solo AVs. Increasing power across the board might mean that every build will be able to mop the floor with AVs.

And when everyone is super-super, no one will be.

My favorite is Energy Torrent>Throw Spines>hop in and Spine Burst>Ripper.

Try it with Build-Up Sauce™!

Hrm. Theoretically one could slot the Achilles heel -res proc into CAK now...although one should probably be careful not to hurt the overall enhancement values on the attack.

Pardon me for asking (genuine question, not snark): what does WP need recharge for?

What I take from that is that it's an even better implementation than I had realized. Top-end DPS builds see no improvement? Well, my understanding is that the plan wasn't to improve top-end DPS builds and make Tankers into damage kings. People doing less efficient attack chains find it wonderful? Sure; aren't they the people the change was instituted to help?

Yes, of course -- my point is that we have examples of some Brutes whining about their AT, some Tankers whining about theirs, and some Scrappers whining about theirs. yet all three ATs are doing very well. Tanker flaws are as imaginary as Scrapper flaws.

The oft-quoted estimate is that smashing and lethal damage make up roughly 70% of incoming damage. What may not be obvious is that Invulnerability trivializes that damage (coupled with Tough, for 90% resistance to S/L). Taking only 10% of most incoming damage is huge indeed.

And not to have a tank who reflexively complains about knockback even when it doesn't hurt him.

I've had someone (a Scrapper actually) complain that defeating one enemy with Crane Kick (and sending the body flying) was "splitting up the herd and ruining his AoEs."

I wanted to say, "Dude, I'm a Scrapper too...and it's only one guy...and he's dead."

Eh, doesn't that apply to the Blasters, Defenders, Controllers, and other ATs too?

Are you aware that the Brute forum has two active threads about how Brutes are now cruelly nerfed, and the Scrapper forum has been host to numerous nervous "are we being replaced in Going Rogue?" threads?

Actually there's a term of long standing among gamers to describe people who expect this kind of power.

My Shield/Axe Tanker got an Apocalypse purple recipe last night, and 41 kills later, an Armageddon purple dropped. Question: does this mean it's the end of the world?

At farming, you mean? Brute wins at boring old farming and Tanker wins at adventuring with a team?

No, no, no, you're doing it wrong. The correct answer to Umbral's showing you that Stalkers are missing a defense power Brutes get and that the numbers balance if you account for that is, "Oh, of course. Never mind."

Any attempt at arguing further is just an attempt to pump up your preferred AT. In this case, Brutes don't need anyone cheerleading for them; they're doing fine.

Yeah, I wonder if the folks who are defending Stupidly Powerful Shield Charge mostly soloed. Multiple Shield Charges rolling together could literally annihilate crowds so fast as to render much of the rest of the game moot.

One of my shielders leveled into it a few weeks ago and was doing 600-700 or more damage UNSLOTTED. Yes, with build-Up and a small red or two, but was clearing rooms full of yellow bad guys with a power that had nothing at all slotted in it, and the rest of the team was reduced to following me around laughing.

That's patently absurd.

Before dual pistols came out, I had an Archery Blaster who kept a revolver temp power. Occasionally, when a foe survived a couple of arrows, I'd pull it out and emote something like "ALL RIGHT, DAMMIT!" and use the revolver.