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Originally Posted by MriBruce

Just for the sake of completeness...

In World of Warcraft, as of the current patch (5.0.4), Demonology-specced warlocks can get a lot of pet action going. Unfortunately you only have real control over one, as usual; it's just that you can bring in some additional ones and have others triggered by procs, and it's possible to have quite the crowd in big fights.

I'm enjoying it, though it's no true substitute for the glory that is the mastermind.

Originally Posted by The Grim Heaper

I find Star Trek Online to be fairly enjoyable... Well, space missions are enjoyable. Ground missions are often a chore and something I suffer through to get back to the space missions...

Originally Posted by Lobster

Funny, I've tried both of those, looking for a mastermind fix (although I admit I played DAOC from launch, before masterminds...I just didn't know that I was looking for masterminds then . With a graphics overhaul, Bonedancers would be pretty fun, but I can't look at the dated graphics anymore.

Conan had a terribly ugly UI. There were some neat things about their necromancers and the mass pets... I forget with my issues with them were, but I stopped playing out of boredom around level 20 or so.

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I had an "all summons" user in CO when it launched. It was really, really weak compared to most other options. Pets just sucked (some, like the turrets, were OK AFAIR).

I tried to recreate that with the free-to-play experience and couldn't. I couldn't even figure out how to buy exactly what I needed to unlock my old character. Then again, I wasn't willing to invest that much into figuring it out - CoH's costume creator spoiled me with the simple dollar signs on the individual missing pieces, last I checked (it's been a while) CO did not have something similar for finding the powersets you need to pay for to properly unlock old alts.


D2 had some of the original mastermind types with Necromancers able to get very large pet counts and Druids having a handful as well. Both were incredibly fun to play. Still are if you can deal with 800x600. Hell, you can play it offline! You could even play it with my mod (which has EVEN MOAR PETS), if you were so inclined.

D3 has the Witchdoctor, which is OK. Mine is currently 60+1 and finally playable in inferno (pet centric builds were pretty terrible in Inferno (the final difficulty level) pre 1.04 - aka a couple weeks ago).

GW2 has a necromancer, and it looks like they can have 5 pet skills on the bar, one of which summons 2 pets.

In GW1 you could mix classes, so of course I made a necro/ranger for max necro pets + ranger pet. That was kind of fun, but eventually the playstyle and difficulty curve of the game just bored me out.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger

I want everyone to please temper their expectations with the word "discussions". Please, don't take this to mean more than it does, at this point in time.

Originally Posted by Valdous

If Paragon managed to spin off and become an independent studio, I would buy everything on the Paragon Market. EVERYTHING. Even stuff I will never use.

Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man

I found it a while back. I think I've had a total of 4 people on there at some point, but taken all but one back out. I was tempted--sometimes daily--to put GG in there, but I never did.

(In the interest of disclosure, Venture was the first one I put on ignore, then took him back out that same day... I just started avoiding his MA review threads as a whole instead.)

Originally Posted by Winterminal

Actually, Alpha Wolf was very good to put it the way he did. He simply said they were trying to negotiate. I think the goal was to keep us in "the know" as to what is going on, and to let us know that they, too, are working to find a solution.

Originally Posted by Pogothulu

Ok, I have a question..My character I just amed up there to try it out, Knight Hood, is lvl 4 and has yet to be to a trainer. I am currently resting in the Rennaisance Center in Millenium City...where is my trainer?? I play a melee guy with a samurai sword.

Originally Posted by Doctor_Gemini

I have a lifetime sub to CO bought during beta that I've still not gotten its value in playtime from yet. Tried playing CO over my weekend (I tried to play CoH but it was just too depressing) and found that it's even worse than it used to be. You can pretty much mow down small groups of bad guys, but then you hit the Super Villain in the mission arc and get stomped into the ground. Actually, he does more than stomp you into the ground but I can't say it in a family friendly forum. At least that's what it feels like when you realize there is no possibility whatsoever of winning the fight.

Maybe CoH spoiled me, since in all my years here I only ever once ran into something that one of my characters could not solo even with Shivans and chiclets. I guess maybe I'll finally watch some of the DVDs I keep buying and haven't watched yet.

Originally Posted by Thunder Knight

Um, I'm getting out of the way of the satellite cannon, and blocking when a symbol appears (which still knocks off about 1/4 to 1/3 of my health), and then dying immediately when I mistime a block and get held or knocked back (because he's still hitting me while I'm trying to escape the hold or standing up) Meanwhile, I have to hit him with my strongest attack charged to max to take off even a tiny sliver of health, and if I stop to charge I get nailed, so I just have to whittle him down with my weak attack.

Eventually, the only way I could beat him was to fight him until I was down to about 1/4 health (knocking off a few pixels of his health bar), run far enough away that the game would consider me out of combat so I could heal, then run back and knock off a few more pixels of health, repeat until I finally won. Took at least a half-hour.

At one point I got fed up and tried to leave to find someone to team with, but it wouldn't let me out of the mission, so I just had to grit my teeth, said "This is going to suck", and went back to whittling him down a pixel at a time. And it did, indeed, suck.

If that's what the tutorial boss — a boss supposedly designed for brand-new players who know nothing about the game — is like, I hate to think what the real bosses are like.

All the while I had to listen to that terrible voice-acting. (It was cheesy, but it was cheesy in a way that was trying to be cheesy, and that grates on my nerves. The whole game feels like a parody of comic books rather than an homage to them like CoH does)

Originally Posted by Tocharon

from what I hear Secret World would be a strong contender, but discovered the hard way my poor 1 1/2 yr old med range lap top can't handle it after downloading the three day trial( although the next time I get a new one, i'll try it again)

So I am still shoping for a new home

-what burned me on CO and DCOU was how both games were developed for console, and seemed to make some sacrifices of PC functionality doing so, but of the two, DCOU is better done( but still not CoX)

Things I'm looking for
-Instanced missions, CoX has a great mix and variety here, I hate go hunt 20 x in zone y missions

-PUG friendly

-good variety of possible builds

-Not much if any sacrifices made for console functionality

Originally Posted by DeathSentry

Plus as I tried both as well, CO content is HORRIBLY limited!! When I tried it, they only had a few zones and I kept doing the same thing over and over again to grind just to get somewhere.

Originally Posted by CaboWabo

I agree with Rough, I just tried both Champions and DCOL and neither had the feel nor the character creation/ability that you have with COH. I have always loved that your look is not tied to what you find or build. Unless it's been on purpose I don't remember anyone looking exactly like anyone else.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

"I feel in my heart" is reasoning equally as bad as the one you're trying to combat. I'm not saying City of Heroes doesn't need defenders right now, but what I AM saying is that fanatical defenders who don't watch what they're saying can do more harm than good. Tony has been explicit in this - and I agree with him wholeheartedly - that antagonising pretty much anybody, especially NCsoft, helps nobody.

This isn't some crusade we can "win" by brute force. We have neither the numbers nor the pull nor the money to constitute any kind of force. The only thing we have, really, is City of Heroes and its many strengths. In order for other people, especially corporate leadership in the various game publishers, to understand this is to be diplomatic about it.

If you have to start a campaign against corporate greed, at least wait until the deal with City of Heroes has been settled, one way or another. To go to war now will just burn what's left of the game.

Originally Posted by Freitag

Hey guys!

I doubt many people will see this, but regardless, I want to ask people to send me a PM if they see something particularly egregious that needs removal. There's just too many posts to get to, and too much other stuff going on, for me to effectively be able to monitor the forums.

Thanks!
~Freitag

Originally Posted by SlickRiptide

I see a few responses along the lines of "they wouldn't want to queer the deal by telling the truth" so I wanted to be clear. The reason I don't just paste the email verbatim is that I nrver received explicit permission.

However, the relevant quote would be "Never been discussed never going to be discussed."

That IS verbatim. There was no question of hedging. In fact, I exchanged a few emails wiyh Mister Smedley and he was surprisingly forthcoming about his own experiences having to shut down Matrix Online and EQOA. He also expressed his great respect for both City of Heroes and Paragon Studios.

Bottom line: SOE is not in the picture. At all.