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to champions online people....

I read on this forum about speculation that the perfect world/cryptic or whoever it is that owns champions online also owned the game engine for CoH. It was speculated that a new lease agreement for the engine could not be reached between them and NC soft, hence the abrupt closure of CoH.

I am not sure what the reason is that a lease could not be agreed on, however, CoH closing down will not push me to a failing champions online.


I tried Champions online a few months ago, and it sucks. I mean that, I found about 10% of the game to be interesting or entertaining, and the rest to be backwards, clunky and boring. SO, champions online people, if you read this, know that your part in closing down CoH will not net you a cent of my cash, and it will not make Champions suddenly turn a profit due to some influx of new players, because, that game sux.


If I am mistaken in your part of this lease agreement garbage, it would probably be best to make some kind of public announcement because right now, that is the most logical explanation as to why a profitable MMO would be insta-killed at the end of the month.


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They already did. You missed it.

Have a look for posts by Tic-Toc (who used to be BaBs here) and he explains that it's all hokum and bunkum.


 

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Not going to find the info for you but this has all been proven untrue.
This situation is all Ncsoft.


 

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Sorry that you think it sucks, but you can't blame it for the current problems with NCsoft. But I assure you, plenty of people disagree with you and enjoy CO, myself included. Best of luck finding something else to play, though.


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Here's the post

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Originally Posted by Tic-Toc View Post
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Ironically, Champions Online celebrated its 3rd year anniversary today and we had a quick company-wide meeting that where last Friday's bombshell about City of Heroes/Paragon came up.

During Q&A time with Jack, I pont-blank asked him if there was any truth to the rumors about expired licensing agreement with Cryptic's COH engine. He was taken aback about this, unaware of such rumors going around. His response was that NCSoft has the license to use the CoH engine "in perpituity" for both "City of Heroes/City of Villains" as well as a 2nd game.

I asked him if there was going to be any official response to this rumor concerning Cryptic/PWE and it's not something we plan on doing. We obviously can't be aware of or comment on every rumor floating around on the internet he wasn't sure of what they could say about this particular scenario if they wanted to.

So whatever reasons NCSoft had for shuttering Paragon, it had absolutely nothing to do with the IP, which they own, or the engine, which they had a license to use indefinitely.

That's about all I can do to quell this rumor. Take it as you will.

Again, thoughts go out to all my friends, former co-workers, and recent friendly rivals who've been released into the wild. I hope to see many of them here in the halls of Cryptic very soon. :P


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This was also addressed (and refuted) by Zwillinger on yesterday's TwitchTV session

From Obsidius' recap:

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Cryptic did NOT kill CoH by witholding an engine license; the license was purchased in perpetuity for CoH and another unreleased project
So I think we can call close the books on this theory. Yeah, it seemed like a logical explanation at first--given the totally unexpected and perplexing decision to pull the plug on CoH, maybe the ONLY explanation that made sense--but it was a red herring.


 

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Originally Posted by Red_Raccoon View Post
This was also addressed (and refuted) by Zwillinger on yesterday's TwitchTV session

From Obsidius' recap:


So I think we can call close the books on this theory. Yeah, it seemed like a logical explanation at first--given the totally unexpected and perplexing decision to pull the plug on CoH, maybe the ONLY explanation that made sense--but it was a red herring.
It's as he says. You can review my racap here, or watch the video of the coffee talk here, and listen to the words spill from Zwill's own mouth There is no grand conspiracy of Cryptic holding out on a license; NCSoft Corporate, for reasons that will be unknown to most people (due to contractual NDAs with the Paragon Studios staff) chose to do this on their own accord.


 

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Originally Posted by Obsidius View Post
It's as he says. You can review my racap here, or watch the video of the coffee talk here, and listen to the words spill from Zwill's own mouth There is no grand conspiracy of Cryptic holding out on a license; NCSoft Corporate, for reasons that will be unknown to most people (due to contractual NDAs with the Paragon Studios staff) chose to do this on their own accord.
Yeah, there just like the IOA, only we're pointing the fingers, and there the one's at fault.


 

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Originally Posted by Eldagore View Post
to champions online people....

I read on this forum about speculation that the perfect world/cryptic or whoever it is that owns champions online also owned the game engine for CoH. It was speculated that a new lease agreement for the engine could not be reached between them and NC soft, hence the abrupt closure of CoH.
Wrong.

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and it will not make Champions suddenly turn a profit due to some influx of new players, because, that game sux.

Wrong.

And the CO community is great (pretty much the same community as here anyway).