NightshadeLegree

I'd go with a Rikti Invasion as well. It was being caught up in a Rikti Invasion in Kings Row that originally sold me on CoH, back when I had a trial account.

I had literally no idea what was happening when the sky turned green and the War Walls went down - I still love that noise. The running battle I had with the Rikti that day remains one of my fondest memories of the game, so yeah, if we have to go out, that's as good a way to go as any.

Not until 11

Have you heard anything at all from NCsoft about refunds? It seems to me that the company would be obliged to tell customers who have paid in advance what will happen when the service they've paid for no longer exists.

Personally I'm not expecting much or anything in the way of communication from NCsoft to the wider playerbase, but I am surprised that we're now well into this working week and there's been no follow up from them to those who've already paid.

The most (perhaps only) optimistic thing I took from it was that they said they would definitely NOT make everything on the Market free. So long as they're trying to maintain 'business as usual' with the ingame economy and more importantly the F2P model, maybe it's still viable for another backer to take over. From that point of view I guess we'd have more to worry about if they did give us everything for nothing.

I dunno, maybe I'm really reaching for a positive spin. I don't think anyone's coming away from this more optimistic, but that's not Z's fault. Kudos to him and the others for still showing up.

Sad to watch this though.

I've rerolled my entire roster (except my two 50s to keep the VEATS and EATS open) several times - usually when reorganising them across the servers, so no... wouldn't be a problem.

Doesn't Steelclaw restart every six months? Or is it every issue? Or when there's a y in the month, or...

1. Manticore and Ghost Widow both appeared in the original Going Rogue trailer - were there plans at any stage for them to switch sides or become something like Rogue/Vigilante patrons?

2. So what was the real story behind Tyrant and Dominatrix? (Yes, I'm a terrible person for even asking that...)

Whenever I was browsing the forums there were some names I'd look out for, knowing that their comments would be interesting, insightful and/or funny. Your name was at the top of that list... just above Power.

(ahem, I kid...)

And your asides about having 200+ characters were reassuring to a fellow altoholic such as myself.

All the best.

The more I think about this theory the less credible it becomes. If NCsoft had been forced to shut down City by PWE they'd have no reason not to shout that fact from the rooftops. It'd make them look good, it'd make PWE look terrible.

Even if all concerned kept quiet about it (can't imagine why NCsoft would but...) it'd come out eventually, at which point a large part of the CoH playerbase would become irevocably hostile to PWE. Some people will be willing to forgive NCsoft if it is just a business decision, but less people would, I think, be willing to forgive PWE for actively conspiring to kill CoH.

Why plot to take down a competitor if by doing so you'd likely alienate a lot of the customers you presumably hoped to win over to your game?

In the short term I think a lot of attitudes will depend on how their next statement reads - i.e. where they lay out the 'detailed timeline' for the shutdown, how accounts paid past November will be handled, and so on. I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been one already, but it'll make interesting reading when it does come.

In the long term it will all depend on whether they are willing to even discuss giving up the IP.

I just wish we'd get some more solid information about why they decided to do this. I've no doubt it'll come out eventually, but if NCsoft care at all about their PR it's surely in their interest to say something - if only to avoid the most negative rumours and theories spiralling out of control.

How can you say Citadel is boring when he has that awesome Task Force where you are trapped in a time loop and have to keep attacking the same Council base over and over and over again...

...um... that was the plot, wasn't it?

Nothing is impossible.

I've came and went from CoH over the last 4 years, but whilst it's not the only MMO for me, I still have a lot of affection for it. The news of the iminent shutdown shocked me more than I would have expected, much more, so I can imagine how devastating this is being for those of the players for whom this is their only MMO.

I'll say this though... I've said some cynical things about the forum community over time, but these last few days I've been impressed at how well it's held together, rather than collapsing into self destructive rage and recriminations. Given the history of forum dramas erupting over what were, in retrospect, minor things, I'm pleasantly surprised.

I still remember arguing with Golden Girl in the GR forums (didn't we all...) but I have nothing but respect for the way that GG and TonyV and the others are responding to this, rallying the community and doing what they can to keep morale high.

Win or lose, I think it's a good thing if the community goes out on a high, being as good as they - we - have often claimed to be. That alone is justification enough for the sincere efforts that are being made, and I wish all those who are actively working toward it the very best of luck.

I should be nice and back out of this thread, but I just had an amusing thought...