Morbid Star

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I've been reading over this thread, and it all looks like good stuff, but I'm not sure I quite understand yet what I should pick to get the highest possible Damage and Heal, with a secondary focus on accuracy. My DM/Regen scrapper has plenty of Recharge from set bonuses, and endurance is never an issue.

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2 Nuc HO's , dam IO (or Heca dam IO) , and 3 heal IO's

simple if that's all your concerned about

what about "Evaded" or "Reposed" ?

dont forget you need to account for it's actual activation time as'well as make sure you give it a chance to re'pop in your attack chain (it needs that momentary time to register, which it wont get if your constantly que'in one attack after another when it's recharged) so you'll want a'bit of breathing room in there, especially if it recharges just after a long attack animation just started

here's a build that offers soft cap'd def, medicine pool, a travel power, keeps your sweet GSF-C set in tactics aswell as your sweet frankenslot sets in health, and only ONE 5/6 purple set, ... it removes the useless boxing power as it doesn't require the fighting pool, and also offers the conserve power option for really long fights and sapper types ect..., it sacrifices a lot of AOE potential, but that's not what your looking for in AV solo'ist builds, you want the ST damage, it also keeps access to the Attack Vitals combo as well as a decent amount of procs to diversify damage to those AV's resistant to your primary lethal


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lui av: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Power Slice
(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
(3) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(11) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(40) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(40) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(40) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40


Level 1: Focused Fighting
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(5) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 2: Ablating Strike
(A) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(3) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(11) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(31) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
(33) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20


Level 4: Focused Senses
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(5) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 6: Agile
(A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40
(7) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 40
(7) Defense Buff IO: Level 50


Level 8: Blinding Feint
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(9) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(19) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(31) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge: Level 50
(33) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 10: Practiced Brawler
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 12: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50


Level 14: Health
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
(15) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(15) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
(34) Miracle - Heal: Level 40
(37) Miracle - Heal/Endurance: Level 40
(37) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30


Level 16: Dodge
(A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40
(17) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 40
(17) Defense Buff IO: Level 50


Level 18: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(19) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30


Level 20: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
(21) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50


Level 22: Quickness
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50


Level 24: Vengeful Slice
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(25) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(48) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50


Level 26: Sweeping Strike
(A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(27) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(27) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(48) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50


Level 28: Lucky
(A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40
(29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 40
(29) Defense Buff IO: Level 50


Level 30: Aid Other
(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50


Level 32: Nimble Slash
(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
(33) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(34) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(39) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(43) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(48) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40


Level 35: Evasion
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 38: Aid Self
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Miracle - Heal/Recharge: Level 40
(50) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40


Level 41: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(42) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 44: Tactics
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50


Level 47: Super Jump
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 50
(50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 50
(50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50


Level 49: Conserve Power
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


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Level 1: Brawl
(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure


Level 1: Sprint
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50


Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:
15.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
15.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
15.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
15.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
15.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
15.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
15.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
15.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
5% Defense(Smashing)
5% Defense(Lethal)
4.38% Defense(Fire)
4.38% Defense(Cold)
4.69% Defense(Energy)
4.69% Defense(Negative)
10% Defense(Melee)
9.38% Defense(Ranged)
8.75% Defense(AoE)
60% Enhancement(Accuracy)
47.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
10% FlySpeed
215.9 HP (16.1%) HitPoints
10% JumpHeight
10% JumpSpeed
Knockback (Mag -4)
Knockup (Mag -4)
MezResist(Held) 8.8%
MezResist(Immobilize) 12.1%
20% (0.33 End/sec) Recovery
74% (4.14 HP/sec) Regeneration
2.52% Resistance(Fire)
2.52% Resistance(Cold)
3.13% Resistance(Negative)
32.5% RunSpeed



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Set Bonuses:
Touch of Death
(Power Slice)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
2.5% DamageBuff(All)
MezResist(Held) 2.75%
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)


Luck of the Gambler
(Focused Fighting)
10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Hecatomb
(Ablating Strike)
4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Luck of the Gambler
(Focused Senses)
10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Gift of the Ancients
(Agile)
2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
7.5% RunSpeed


Mako's Bite
(Blinding Feint)
MezResist(Immobilize) 3.3%
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)


Adjusted Targeting
(Blinding Feint)
2% DamageBuff(All)


Numina's Convalescence
(Health)
12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration
25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints


Miracle
(Health)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery


Gift of the Ancients
(Dodge)
2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
7.5% RunSpeed


Luck of the Gambler
(Combat Jumping)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Performance Shifter
(Stamina)
5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery


Mako's Bite
(Vengeful Slice)
MezResist(Immobilize) 3.3%
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)
MezResist(Held) 3.3%
3.75% Defense(Ranged), 1.88% Defense(Energy), 1.88% Defense(Negative)


Scirocco's Dervish
(Sweeping Strike)
10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
3.13% Resistance(Negative)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)


Gift of the Ancients
(Lucky)
2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
7.5% RunSpeed


Touch of Death
(Nimble Slash)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
2.5% DamageBuff(All)
MezResist(Held) 2.75%
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)


Luck of the Gambler
(Evasion)
10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Numina's Convalescence
(Aid Self)
12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration


Miracle
(Aid Self)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery


Luck of the Gambler
(Maneuvers)
10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control
(Tactics)
5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
2.5% DamageBuff(All)
2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing), 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative), 2.5% Defense(AoE), 1.25% Defense(Fire), 1.25% Defense(Cold)


Blessing of the Zephyr
(Super Jump)
3.13% Defense(Ranged), 1.56% Defense(Energy), 1.56% Defense(Negative)
3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
Knockback Protection (Mag -4)






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it's one of your many options

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Where's Lemur_Lad when you need him?

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i was thinking the exact same thing

with the whole troller comment, i'm guessing your not use to the scrapper forums, that and you actually listed EB in your title as'well. EB's are of no concern to scrappers as they are for squishies. they are just a tougher boss, and are simple even with a basic DO sloted scrapper, as long as you know the basics ... like not skipping your mez protection and such.

the challenge here is toward AV's , Object's (Pylon's), ect... and maybe even M's and GM's if your truely insane...

as the others have stated already, if your not going with DM, which is actually the best choice with all its utilities and and exotic damage. then you will want to get the medicine pool for a self heal. i'm assumeing you dont want to be reliant on haveing all the insp's you need all the time. if that'd be the case then any scrap would do (except spines, they're too AOE focused and can't do the ST dam you need for most AV'ish type challenge, but they are the best for farming).
also you'll want to focus toward the defensive aspects of protection, with an emphasis on positional (especially melee).
other than that, just need a good solid attack chain.

main thing i'd like to know is what will happen with Hero and Villain SG's ???

an easy way to do this is to offer one person the free merits if they'll be on for a while, and get the rest of the fillers you need, start it, then kick all but that one person, that one person can then log onto another toon and play, and you send them a tell when you are at the last mission about to finish the TF, they can then log that toon back on and collect the merits and badge... you'd be surprised at how many people will gladly do this

if your going to go with ImpArm, your better off 4sloting them for the max end boost,
the GotA i'd change the def/rech with the def/+run, same def value with auto bonus of run speed,
BU i'd switch to the rech and rech/endred, the to hit isnt a prime concern especially with your global acc bonus from sets,
and i'd switch the the HO in swift with a stealth unique to go with your CoD, cuz stealth+stealth=invis, ...
if your looking for where to get the slots from, i'd grab 'em out of boxing, since it's for the most part, a useless attack you'll rarely ever use...

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your weave and tough are going to be bleeding blue bar with no endred

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Duh didn't see the weave part but who says he will be running tough, to me it looks like he just took it to get to weave and slot the +3 def in it.

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yeah, that's why i stated it as weave and tough and not as the progressionary tough and weave, but weather or not they toggle on tough, my guess would be that they would have weave toggled on all the time, and occasionally toggle on tough for certain AV's, and as they are sloted, will both or one or the other will still be bleeding blue bar...

on a side note, i dont see anywhere that the OP defines either themself or the toon in question as a male

your weave and tough are going to be bleeding blue bar with no endred

your going to be constantly bleeding blue bar som'thin fierce with that build, your forgeting one of the prime requirements for survival, you need enough endurance recovey / endurance reduction costs, to maintain all the toggles and still attack... kind'a hard to survive when all your toggles keep droping
you have no end red in weave; and close to none in death shroud, quills, spine burst, ripper, throw spines, cloak of darkness, and cloak of fear.
your dark regen should focus more on end red with recharge and acc, heal isnt really needed in it. (i'd suggest also adding the theft of essence +end proc)
you'd also be better off geting 'bout 2 -KB IO's and droping acrobatics.
also murky cloud is taken a'bit late.

personally, what i'd like to see...

combine OG and CoF into one power, make soul transfer the tier 8 power, and give DA a "REAL" TIER 9 power that doesnt require you to DIE first, like "Living Shadow" or som'thin, maybe where you become untouchable for a limited amount of time but still able to attack, being in untouchable i'd say a very minimal time frame like MoG, but make that the current cloak of darkness grafix and change the CoD to something where every DA isn't just a dust ball... but i'm open to other thoughts for a real tier 9 for DA, i just think the Living Shadow thing just fits it soo well both thematically and power based-wise

Need a way to remove standard ears when adding special ears (such as cat, bunny, wild cat, ect...). Most people do not want 4 ears, and it detracts from the theme of the charractor. jay is sexy

well i know SR can get 95% def debuff resist pretty easy, and Mid's isn't very proficient in this area...

so i'm wondering if it's possible with SD and if not how close?

also i've noticed that alot of builds seem to be sloting HO's in Active Def (the mez protection click) and i know that Act Def offers some of the def debuff resist, but it's only standard sloting of endred and/or rech, does this improve the def debuff resist values with HO's of a def buff orientation? and also are it's values stackable with itself at all ?

well dont forget that acrobatics also grants hold PROTECTION

well from the sounds of it, your wanting an AV solo'ist ... of your listed ones, spines is the worst choice for AV solo'ing, but the best choice for farming... i would go with your DM/SD for the final build goal for that, it's harder to attain the magic # of 45% than an SR but the utilities in DM give it the heal and the -tohit to stack on the def based SD plus the end recovery, plus SD also has one of the kewlest AoE attack in the game to help make up for DM's lack of AoE, but as such DM dominates the ST genre with its exotic damage type aswell, which will be your main focus when solo'ing AV's...

as for where to find info, paragonwiki is great and you will want to get Mid's Hero & Villain Designer (i'm sure someone will post the links)

low lvl AV's can be found in Faultline's story-line starting with Jim, aswell as a few odd others all arround Paragon

as far as market help goes, just keep playing and you'll get drop's that will fund you by selling at WW, when you hit lvl 12 upgrade to DO's and at 22 upgrade to SO's, you shouldnt really worry too much about IO's till late game, except for a few unique exceptions, such as the steadfast protection Unique IO of res/+3 def and such for example

it really depends on how/and what you plan your build arround, as runing both for a scrap isn't really productive (but extremely effective for a tanker)

if your designing your build more defenceively oriented then CoF would be the better choice with its innate -tohit component, but you need to realize that it will require alot more sloting that OG, its standard accuracy is lowered and requires alot more end management, but also yields some very nice sets in fear

if your build is really tight with not many slots to throw arround or if your constantly bleeding endurance then you'll want to go with OG, too many people are put off by the text about the self damage, where in all actuality it's extremely negligable, if your worryed about it at all after seeing it in action when surrounded by effected minions, a simple unsloted health will still yield a HP Gain over it, of which should be in every Build IMHO especially since you'll want stamina, also the chance for immobilize proc from the one stun set (lvl 30'ish if i recall) will work wonders with wonder'ers

regens rely on only themself for survival, wp has to rely on outside conditions for their survival ...

regens are more active while wp is more passive

regen is as it states it is, it regens any and all types of damage, doesn't matter what type it is, it can hit the HP cap with very little effort and can hit regen levels that wp can only dream of, it matures the earliest and needs very little to no downtime even at the earliest lvl's, it gains minor resists to the most common damage types and has several active self heals at its disposal, one of which boosts their HP to near tanker levels, it is very self sufficient with an active play style

wp has a mix bag in its surviveability, it can hit very decent levels of regen but only when surrounded by hostiles, which in and of itself is a double edged sword, it gains abit of resists and +HP as'well as some damage type defence, but lacks any type of active heal power, in short, it's kind'a like a jack-of-all-trades and master of none, it is more passive play style friendly

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Well I was just referring to saying that having a Shivan for a Scrapper is like having Pets for an MM.

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no, it's not. a petless mm has NO chance of soloing a damned thing. flawed analogy is flawed.

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i've seen videos of petless MM's soloing AV's, so it is possible

well first off, you need to be more specific about what your end result goals are ... is this for PvP?, PvE?, Farming?, Teaming?, Soloing?, TF's?, Exemping?, ect... what is it you want from it ?

ahhh, thanx ... just what i was looking for, much appreciated

o'kay i know the ideal DPS chain is...
Smite / Siphon Life / Smite / Midnight Grasp /...repeat
exactly how much recharge am i looking for in each to have this run seemlessly ?

well if your going to bother mentioning ones like BFF and such, should also mention BF = BoyFriend and GF = GirlFriend

also
LCtMS = Lost Connection to Mapserver
DC = Disconected
LD = Link Dead
AoE = Area of Effect

tons of others that aren't listed i'm sure

so is anything being done to rectify the nerf by proxy effect on power sets such as cold domination, ice melee, ice blast, ect... who's MAIN form of midigation IS -recharge debuff ???