Memphis_Bill

Your choice,

Or..



Neither, unfortunately, available with paragon points.

Yeah, have to agree Fire sounds somewhat shortchanged here. Things to pay attention to:

FIERY EMBRACE doesn't just give +dmg, it adds fire damage to your attacks. All of them.

CONSUME for END recovery... and damage.

TEMPERATURE PROTECTION is actually useful for (a) the slow/rech resistance added in a few patches ago, and (b) a place to slot a KB resist IO.

BURN no longer does fear, adds immob protection, and of course, does a heap of damage.

So make a 2.0 version, if you want - after all, 1acc5dmg went out the window with ED, and inherent fitness means one less pool to take, for starters.

The Guides section really doesn't get purged. Most other sections, if you have an old post, it's because there was a redname posting in that thread.

Yeah. 11.6 is bad pretty much universally. Check tech issues and bugs - some people have dropped back to the 10.x series (I'm at 11.5 and perfectly fine - as soon as I went to 11.6, it was constant crashing.)

Are you running an ATI video card, and if so, which set of drivers? 11.6 (the current ones - which I believe Windows UPdate also puts in) has been particularly nasty about crashing.

It does nothing of the sort.

Well, as I recall, North Avenue was south of Central Avenue in Milwaukee.

Ask Vanden.

(Vanden please note, yes, I am kidding and teasing you somewhat about the choices of things you bring to suggestions, because I find it amusing. Offense not intended. Not a flotation device. Do not place over head. Do not take internally. Not intended for use by pets. Dry clean only.)

And that's the same dev group that went with a classless system to begin with. And watched the players make tankmages or completely and totally gimp themselves (I believe one of the examples given was an invulnerable flier. That's all he could do - be invulnerable. And fly.)

They didn't throw it away on a whim. They threw it away - and had to take the hard task of rewriting it and creating a class system - because they pushed it out, the players tried it and *it didn't work.* How hard is that to understand?

And if you don't think it would be abused and horrible to even TRY to balance, well, I suggest you just look around at what the min/maxers do NOW. Then imagine they have no constraints, or at best far fewer constraints. And imagine the impact that would have on the rest of the game.

I don't argue against this (and for the status quo) out of any love for or faith in the infallibility of the dev team. I cuss them out roundly at least once a week for something broken or something that hasn't been fixed in years (like tonight with the last Rikti portal room and the vanishing/hidden landscape and NPCs that hasn't been fixed since issue 9.) I'm arguing against this because the status quo WORKS. There hasn't been a (non-story-based) AT class added since COV launched. Do I see the potential in a melee/(de)buff? Sure. I'd love to see it... AS AN AT. Because the class based system works. It works for players, and it works for the developers in being able to set expectations of performance (of both the AT and powers AND the content) - which comes BACK to working for the players.

Players manage to hobble themselves NOW with the guarantee of tools available to them. I've seen melee in the 30s and 40s with no status protection, refusing to take it over another attack because it was a "boring power." But it's *available* to them as a melee in *every single set.* I'd hate to see what these same players would do with - what was that number, several thousand? - power choices just sitting there.

Wrong.

They looked at how the powers were coded in the game, looked at their team at the time, and said (very honestly) that if they DID do it at that time, the art team would not be able to give ANYTHING else for at least a year. They don't need to "try it" to know that it would have taken a HELL of a lot of work for them at that point.

When did we finally get it?

When they had more people and more money so the entire department would not be tied down.

I can't believe you actually think this is a good idea. I'm being blunt when I say if you want to do that, you're looking at a *whole new game.*

And then let's have you try to balance it. Go ahead. Ignore the *experience* the devs had in alpha - it doesn't matter that it was a different dev team, they saw what the PLAYERS were doing.

Then try to fit it in "somehow" in the existing game.

Then try to figure out what we WOULDN'T be getting while they churned this out and tried to cobble it onto the existing game.

And you, and many others, come across as though "Oh, anything can be added, balance be damned, nothing takes time or money or manpower, we can have it all and there's no reason it can't just be punted out the door next week."

I point out the (numerous) flaws because people suggesting it seem completely unaware of or unCARING of the problems. There's a difference. And that's why I said "You may as well start a new game from scratch." Suggest it for COH 2. Or better yet, write your own - and see what happens. See just how vanilla and boring you have to get to have any semblance of balance, either solo or in teams. There's a reason MMOs end up with classes by the time they go live. COH isn't the only one to try to get away from it early.

But I'm NOT limited to choices made by someone else. I have a range of powers to use, a range of pool powers to add on to them, and a wide variety of slotting.

By using these pre-BALANCED sets, I don't have to worry about making a character incapable of soloing because (say) my made-up "Melee/debuff" set can't close with anything more threatening than a Skull minion without getting held and killed.

And by knowing the baseline capabilities of characters in general (or specific ATs,) the devs are free to work on more challenging content (as opposed to "Well, is this unsoloable by so-and-so's custom character?")

Know when I'll take the freedom to design my own character? When I'm playing a PnP game with a live GM who can alter things on the fly for the individual characters and specific party makeup. That is NOT doable in an MMO.

Um.... no.

Keyes is one of the few times I'll understand the "Just heal," thanks to the pulses. It, MS raids, etc. it's understandable to "rock the aura" on. Still annoying as hell, but understandable. And I still hate having my Emps referred to as "healers."

That said, a Dark still has to *hit* to "heal," and that's the only thing they have to "heal" WITH. An Empath, by comparison, has numerous means of hit point replacement (though I'd generally suggest to one NOT to use share pain, thanks to the whole "Now *I* can't heal" bit.) Heal for less, sure, but that's because short of dying just as the heal goes off, it's a guaranteed heal.

Besides, with all the good Dark/ does, it's ridiculous to tell someone not to do everything ELSE.

As mentioned, you can get them via ouroboros, where there'll be an "old" galaxy city accessible.

My plant dom will be so happy!

*calls down redwoods from the skies*
*smites masses of enemies who die with a 'what the hell was that?' look on their faces.*

True. Germans come up with some hellacious compound words for everything.

It'd be something like the Putcraftedsuperenhancementofvarioususedynamiclocat ionthing slot. If they used English words for it, for some strange reason.

(But really... yeah, "Interface slot" just doesn't do anything for me. Heck, two of my friends are engaged - to each other, even! - and even as not-shy as they can be, it gets not even a titter from them.)